If You're Looking For A Laborious, Unresponsive Way To File FOIA Requests, The DHS Has An App For You

from the Y2K-COMPLIANT! dept

The DHS isn't the most responsive government agency when it comes to FOIA requests. In fact, this government in general isn't very responsive when it comes to FOIA requests. So, it's completely understandable why its brand new FOIA app is similarly unresponsive.

First off, searching the Google Play store for "DHS" or "FOIA" will NOT find the app. If you use both those words together, however, you'll find it at the top of the list. Clicking through brings you to the app's page, which shows that whatever the DHS paid for its development, it's going to be awhile before it ever returns whatever passes for ROI in publicly-funded app giveaways. 10+ downloads. That's hardly a sign of widespread adoption.

Once you click Install, you're given some information that makes no sense. Why would a government app need your location info? The question is unanswered anywhere in the app's notes. Yes, you do need to turn over a certain amount of personal information to file an FOIA request, but the location it's being sent from is irrelevant.

Now, the idea behind the app is a good one. If you're the inquisitive type, ideas for FOIA requests may strike at inopportune moments. Rather than holding onto it until you're in front of a proper computer, you can just fire one off immediately. IN THEORY.

The app doesn't store your personal information (probably a good thing), so this means every FOIA request will require you to type in your name, address, etc. all over again.

The app's shortcomings become apparent immediately. You're given a list of agencies you can request from, but it's far from complete. Most noticeably, the TSA is not on the list of available agencies and there's no option to add other DHS agencies to the list. Presumably, the TSA will be added when (or if) its FOIA system is told to play nice with the DHS app.


As for the actual entry of personal information (the thing you'll be doing EVERY SINGLE TIME YOU USE THE APP), it's a complete travesty. The UI seems to have been created by a person who knows what a fill-in-the-blank form looks like, but has never actually performed the act on anything but paper.

Look closely at this screenshot. I'm currently in the Zip Code field. You know how I know this? Because when I start punching in numbers, it starts filling up the field. There's no blinking cursor to let you know what field you're in. (Nor does it show up when you need to edit something. It only provides the little teardrop indicator underneath wherever it is [approximately] that you tapped the screen.]


The fields themselves are, um... not smart. Not a single field entry triggers uppercase letters, despite almost every field being the sort of information one normally capitalizes.

It gets worse.

Clicking on State gives you a menu of states to choose from. But not 50 of them. Not even a dozen of them. You'd better hope you live in states None-Colorado because there is no way to scroll down the list (it's static) or even manually enter your state's name.


At this point, I gave up. It's not even worth using as a last resort. You'd be better off writing a reminder in a functioning app and using the DHS's website (or a clearinghouse like MuckRock) to do this twice as fast with half the hassle. The fields are unresponsive, your keyboard routinely covers what you're trying to type in, and, for no apparent reason, the government now knows approximately where you last angrily yelled at its terrible app.

I am hoping this app improves over time -- not because I plan to make use of it, but because it will show the agency is actually trying to make its agency more accessible and transparent, rather than just settling for a "Will this do?" app that actually won't do. Not at all. And I guarantee the development of this app costs more than the development of apps with twice the capability and with at least a passing knowledge of common UI features.
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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 10 Jul 2015 @ 8:24pm

    FOIA the source code, put it on Github and get crackin!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Coyne Tibbets (profile), 10 Jul 2015 @ 11:43pm

    Welcome to Your New DHS FOIA App

    "Welcome to your new FOIA app. It is designed to help you submit to your government as quickly and easily as possible."

    "Just enter your name and address, select a category, and type in the details of your request. Then click submit. At this point, the request will be submitted directly to our in-action file, where you will be investigated as quickly as possible. It could happen in mere seconds, possibly even before you click 'Submit.'"

    "Assuming your request should meet our lenient criteria for issues of national security, unless of course it is a matter of national security, we will be providing the information to you as soon as possible."

    "Of course, there may be a fee for providing the information. Be sure to update our app as soon as the next version comes out that supports in-app purchases. Once we determine the amount due, you'll be able to submit your personal payroll by merely clicking the 'Red-Action' payment button."

    "Once your payroll is in hand, we will rush to redact the required documents as soon as possible. You could receive our response in as soon as twenty leap days, which is hardly any time at all."

    "So enjoy your new app, and remember that, after you submit, the investigators could be responding instantly to a location near you."

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2015 @ 4:27am

      Re: Welcome to Your New DHS FOIA App


      So enjoy your new app, and remember that, after you submit, the investigators could be responding instantly to a location near you.


      rofl.. when i read that text, especially the final phrase, i thought that it was Portal's GlaDOS saying it :)

      https://www.youtube.com/embed/q5kkwermfs4

      =)

      link to this | view in chronology ]

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      DaveK (profile), 12 Jul 2015 @ 5:31am

      Spotted a typo.

      Then click submit. At this point, the request will be submitted directly to our in-action file

      There's no hyphen in the word "inaction"!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    CharlieBrown, 11 Jul 2015 @ 12:09am

    Paranoid

    This app wants your location and all your stored files and information about calls you make? After you remove it, I suggest a re-format if you are able! (I don't know as I don't have an Android phone)

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      RichWa (profile), 12 Jul 2015 @ 11:50am

      Re: Paranoid

      reformating doesn't wipe your data. Usually all a reformat does is clear tables (makes the O/S thinks the blocks are clean) so they will be overwritten as needed.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • icon
        nasch (profile), 13 Jul 2015 @ 9:14am

        Re: Re: Paranoid

        reformating doesn't wipe your data. Usually all a reformat does is clear tables (makes the O/S thinks the blocks are clean) so they will be overwritten as needed.

        That doesn't sound like reformatting. Maybe you're referring to factory reset?

        link to this | view in chronology ]

        • identicon
          Anonymous Coward, 13 Jul 2015 @ 9:40am

          Re: Re: Re: Paranoid

          Due to disc capacities, and intelligent disk controllers, modern disc formatters do not do a low level format of the discs, but only rewrite partition tables, and directory structures for the file system type selected. An overwrite of data needs use of a disc nuke tool, and this takes a considerable time to do its job.

          link to this | view in chronology ]

          • icon
            nasch (profile), 13 Jul 2015 @ 10:44am

            Re: Re: Re: Re: Paranoid

            In Windows, I assume the "Quick Format" option just does the partition table jiggering because it's really almost instantaneous - not really a format. But are you saying the full format also doesn't really format the disk?

            link to this | view in chronology ]

            • identicon
              Anonymous Coward, 13 Jul 2015 @ 11:18am

              Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paranoid

              Linux only user here, but Linux tools do not offer a real low level formatter, neither fdisk, or gparted offer a low level format for hard disks, just partition and file system setup. When they say they are formatting a partition, they are really just writing the blank directory structure to the disk.
              Hint, if it only takes minutes it is not a write every sector format, which depending on disk size will take hours to days, if it is even possible outside of the factory. A low level format for a modern disk is complicated by bad sector management, and the problem that the sector structure presented to the operating system may not be the same as actually on the disk.

              link to this | view in chronology ]

              • identicon
                Anonymous Coward, 13 Jul 2015 @ 9:49pm

                Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paranoid

                Be VERY, VERY careful if you are using SSD drives as I don't think that there is even a way to low level format these drives. When you save a file to them, they use "wear leveling" so that all of the memory gets used, not just the first part of the memory over and over.

                link to this | view in chronology ]

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                  nasch (profile), 14 Jul 2015 @ 6:58am

                  Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paranoid

                  Be VERY, VERY careful if you are using SSD drives as I don't think that there is even a way to low level format these drives.

                  What about secure delete - fill the drive with zeroes or random bits.

                  link to this | view in chronology ]

                  • identicon
                    Anonymous Coward, 14 Jul 2015 @ 7:36am

                    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Paranoid

                    Looking on the Kingston web site, they recommend using a DOS shareware tool called HDDErase. They say for SSDs you need to use a utility that properly implements the ATA Secure Erase command. The erase should only take 2-5 minutes depending on drive size, not hours like a spinning HDDs.

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  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2015 @ 1:17am

    It's a perfect metaphor for the US national security posture really.

    Useless, intrusive, unwanted and a massive waste of money.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    toyotabedzrock (profile), 11 Jul 2015 @ 1:39am

    That app shouldn't need any of those permissions. I would never install that on my phone.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Sheogorath (profile), 11 Jul 2015 @ 1:46am

    If You're Looking For A Laborious, Unresponsive Way To File FOIA Requests, The DHS Has An App For That
    FTFY, Tim. YW. ;)

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  • identicon
    Hector Valdez bin Ali Muhammed, 11 Jul 2015 @ 3:41am

    Boondoggle

    That's a boondoggle if I ever saw one. Innovative implement of a boondoggle; give 'em an A+ on creativity, but a boondoggle nonetheless.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Spaceman Spiff (profile), 11 Jul 2015 @ 6:13am

    DHS == ??

    DHS. Doesn't that mean Department of Hopeless Security?

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    dr evil, 11 Jul 2015 @ 7:37am

    file a FOIA request

    someone please please please file a FOIA request to get all of the information on who designed and published this app, who authorized, who approved *I really want to know this one* etc. time for a public shamin'!

    cheers

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2015 @ 7:54am

    Check the Box

    Now they are able to check the box - "Agency has an App for FOIA Requests". No where does it say that it needs to be usable, at all.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Jake, 11 Jul 2015 @ 8:39am

      Re: Check the Box

      Thats pretty much what I was going to say. I mean, there's no reason this couldn't be done with the phone's web browser if you were in that much of a hurry, but having a special smartphone app to do everything is de rigeur these days, whether or not it makes any sense.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2015 @ 9:23am

        Re: Re: Check the Box

        The app makes sense, if its purpose is to grant the DHS the freedom to see the users information,

        link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Jeff Cantwell (profile), 11 Jul 2015 @ 8:12am

    That's unfair

    The director's nephew needed a summer internship, and viola! Insta-presto, an new app is born!

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Joe Hill Still lives, 11 Jul 2015 @ 9:23am

    Just so people remember what america was really built one

    and it was not selfish robbery

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYRBHpW2GBA

    link to this | view in chronology ]

    • icon
      Sheogorath (profile), 11 Jul 2015 @ 10:24am

      Re: Just so people remember what america was really built one

      Actually, it was. The only difference is that the robbery wasn't committed by internal forces, but in the form of taxes to the UK government. I own that fact as an Englishman.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Stosh, 11 Jul 2015 @ 10:22am

    So how about a FOIA request to find out how much the app cost taxpayers? Bet the response is a totally redacted page.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • icon
    Hephaestus (profile), 11 Jul 2015 @ 1:49pm

    The million dollar question....

    Why doesn't everyone dump their government FOIA docs to a central source? We have it for take downs ....

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2015 @ 2:54pm

    I wonder how many millions of tax dollars went into the creation of this wonderful software.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 11 Jul 2015 @ 9:34pm

    Nothing new

    About 40 years ago, the Chief Test Pilot and Director of Aircraft Operations at NASA Ames Research Center, who was also a recognized expert on aviation safety, made a request (pre-FOIA, obviously) to the FAA for certain records on flight crews in various air carrier "incidents". After the third written request, he received a package containing about 300 pages of photocopy, which had apparently been used in a game of 52-pickup and then stuffed, bent and unsorted, in a big envelope.
    Federal agencies have never been too big on ease-of-use.

    link to this | view in chronology ]


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