Donald Trump's Clueless Lawyer Threatens Press, Says It's Ok To Rape Your Spouse

from the a-graduate-of-thomas-cooley-law-school dept

A few weeks ago, we wrote about the absolute ridiculousness of Donald Trump's "lawsuit" against Univision, which made some bizarre claims about the First Amendment and defamation that clearly did not apply. While there may be a legitimate contractual dispute hidden somewhere in all that mess, there was so much fluff that it made you wonder who is actually advising the entertainer (pretending to be a politician) on legal issues. Apparently, it's some guy named Michael Cohen, who isn't just out of his depth on stuff, but he appears to be actively making things worse. In an astounding article over at The Daily Beast, which was initially over claims of "rape" by Donald Trump's ex-wife Ivana during their divorce proceedings, Cohen not only claimed that you can't rape a spouse, but also threatened to ruin The Daily Beast if they published an article. Lawyering by bullshit threats, apparently.
Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the frontrunner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as a private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”
This is, of course, wrong -- both legally and morally. In NY State, the law got rid of the "marital exemption" to rape laws in 1984 and federal law made it clear that spousal rape is a real crime not long after that. Even if that wasn't the case, is that really a defense? "Oh it's not rape because they're married?" Who thinks that's an okay excuse: "Well, technically, it's not rape." Yikes.

Cohen has now sort of, but not really, "apologized" for what he claims was an "inarticulate comment."
"As an attorney, husband and father there are many injustices that offend me but nothing more than charges of rape or racism. They hit me at my core. Rarely am I surprised by the press, but the gall of this particular reporter to make such a reprehensible and false allegation against Mr. Trump truly stunned me. In my moment of shock and anger, I made an inarticulate comment - which I do not believe -- and which I apologize for entirely," Cohen said in a statement to CNN.
Except that it wasn't inarticulate. It was wrong and, many would argue, morally reprehensible.

And notice that he's still blaming the reporter for asking the question. And that brings us to the second crazy bit here: the threats against the reporters. The reporters -- Tim Mak and Brandy Zadrozny -- didn't back down. In fact, they not only published the story but included the rather unhinged threats from Cohen:
“I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we’re in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don’t have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know,” Cohen said. “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me?”

“You write a story that has Mr. Trump’s name in it, with the word ‘rape,’ and I’m going to mess your life up… for as long as you’re on this frickin’ planet… you’re going to have judgments against you, so much money, you’ll never know how to get out from underneath it,” he added.
Cohen appears to come from a very different generation of legal advice -- one in which bogus threats designed to shut people up would actually work, rather than today, when they just provide a great story. Once again, though, this should serve as a reminder for why we need a federal anti-SLAPP law. Cohen has made it abundantly clear that he has no qualms in using bogus lawsuits to try to stifle public discussion of important matters concerning someone who is clearly a public persona and who is even (technically) running for President.

The fact that Cohen's "apology" for the spouse raping comment still pins the blame on the reporters suggests someone who still doesn't understand what he's talking about. A recent "profile" of Cohen includes him describing his own style as being a "pit bull.":
A 2011 ABC News profile reported that within The Trump Organization he’s called the boss’s “pit bull.”

“If you do something wrong, I’m going to come at you, grab you by the neck and I’m not going to let you go until I’m finished,” Cohen, now 48, told the TV network.
That story also notes that while he may file lawsuits, his threats aren't entirely accurate:
To wit: When New York State Attorney General Eric Schneiderman filed a fraud suit against Trump’s for-profit college in 2013, Cohen threatened Trump’s vengeance: “The damage to the attorney general is going to be very significant,” Cohen told The New Yorker. “So significant that he will possibly have to resign.” (Schneiderman has not resigned. The case is ongoing.)
It might make you wonder where Cohen actually got a law degree. And... it turns out that it's from the infamous Thomas M. Cooley law school. We've written about Cooley a bunch of times. It's a bottom tier law school, considered so bad that US News used to list it as "unranked" because it wouldn't provide the necessary info. It now lists the school as "Rank Not Published" which US News notes is "for the schools that are in the bottom 25 percent of the rankings."

In response to this, Cooley came up with its own ranking system, saying it disagreed with US News' methodology. Magically, Cooley came in second in its own ranking system, second only behind Harvard Law. So what kind of methodology did Cooley's own ranking system include? Well, they took out anything having to do with "quality" since they deemed those to be too subjective, and then used a bunch of stuff about how big the library is, including "total library square footage" and "library seating capacity." Apparently, the Thomas Cooley law school has a huge library.

The school has also become infamous for suing critics, so Cohen seems to have taken those lessons to heart. A few years ago it sort of "merged" with Western Michigan University, and used that as an opportunity to change its name to avoid some of the bagggage of the Thomas M. Cooley brand. It now promotes itself as the "Western Michigan University -- Cooley Law School" and who does it promote as a distinguished graduate on its own site? You guessed it. One Michael Cohen of the Trump organization:
Thomas Cooley law school continues its traditions, apparently.
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  1. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:21pm

    This guy fancies himself as a pit bull but appears to be more of a chihuahua.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  2. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:24pm

    Can't wait for this guy to be the White House lawyer:
    “So I’m warning you, tread very fucking lightly, because what I’m going to do to you is going to be fucking disgusting. You understand me, China?”

    “If you do something wrong, Mexico, I’m going to come at you, grab you by the neck and I’m not going to let you go until I’m finished.”
    ...because no US administration has ever truly explored the lands north of crazy.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  3. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:36pm

    I swear, you people want to encourage the worst possible candidates (anyone but Trump, in this case) so you'll continue to have things to bitch about.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  4. identicon
    Michael Cohen, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:36pm

    You really can't rape your spouse

    I believe that you should expect to have sex if you're going to get married, and those relations will sometimes require coercion or even force. It's a part of every marriage. And while it has been pointed out to me that New York changed its stance on marital 'rape' over thirty years ago, I hold that as being their mistake rather than mine.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  5. identicon
    Baron von Robber, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:45pm

    Perhaps Trump has a difficult time finding people who are not as smart as him to keep on as staff.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  6. identicon
    Mark Wing, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:45pm

    Notice that Trump was quick to throw his esteemed colleague under the bus, where he was metaphorically raped by the media.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  7. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:48pm

    Re:

    The problem is would you, or any other decent person volunteer to work with the average politicians?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  8. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:51pm

    >where he was metaphorically raped by the media.

    In contemporary linguistic practice, that would be phrased: "... literally raped ..."

    link to this | view in thread ]

  9. icon
    Almost Anonymous (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:51pm

    Re: You really can't rape your spouse

    Hah, didn't see the username at first, well played.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  10. icon
    jameshogg (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:51pm

    If humans evolved from apes, how come there are still Donald Trumps?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  11. icon
    crade (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:54pm

    Why are there quotes around "rape"

    link to this | view in thread ]

  12. icon
    crade (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:54pm

    Why are there quotes around "rape"

    link to this | view in thread ]

  13. icon
    Roger Strong (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:54pm

    A joke lawyer for a joke candidate.

    How strangely appropriate.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  14. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:56pm

    In my moment of shock and anger, I made an inarticulate comment...

    in·ar·tic·u·late
    /inärˈtikyələt/
    adj.
    unable to speak distinctly or express oneself clearly

    Makes you wonder what he was really trying to say, doesn't it?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  15. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 1:58pm

    Re: You really can't rape your spouse

    ...you should expect to have sex if you're going to get married, and those relations will sometimes require coercion or even force...

    That may be consensual so long as neither party complains! But once somebody complains to the authorities - at least in my neighborhood - it can be prosecuted as "domestic violence". The definition of "domestic violence" does not have to include rape, but does not exclude rape either.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  16. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:02pm

    Re: Michael D. Cohen

    Michael D. Cohen

    Keeping the "special" in Special Counsel

    link to this | view in thread ]

  17. identicon
    Baron von Robber, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:05pm

    Re:

    Humans are apes...but Trump still likes to fling poo.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  18. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:11pm

    The big thing is, Cohen is trying to obfusticate the entire 'rape' situation.

    Which means whichever men/women raped by Donald Trump are about to go public....

    link to this | view in thread ]

  19. icon
    simality (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:12pm

    Re:

    I think you mean "yorkie" Chihuahuas don't think twice about biting people.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  20. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:13pm

    Re:

    Because somewhere Trumps daddy fucked a particularly sexy lady ape?
    - Remember that Mr 'not a rapist' Trump owns shares in several zoos and wildlife sanctuaries..probably using them as a nursing home for mom.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  21. icon
    Bri (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:18pm

    used that as an opportunity to change its name to avoid some of the bagggage

    Even the schools baggage is a wreck. Can't get anything right, can it?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  22. icon
    Sheogorath (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:21pm

    Re: Re: You really can't rape your spouse

    Thank you. }:)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  23. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:32pm

    Re:

    Regardless of breed, he's definitely an old yeller. Here's hoping he has a friend named Travis.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  24. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:41pm

    Re:

    I think Trump is actually the next step in human evolution, "batshit crazy" being the ideal adaptation to thrive in the current global environment. Homo Sociopathis?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  25. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:45pm

    Re:

    "Humanity" got a bit boring, so god wrote a tongue-in-cheek expansion pack.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  26. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:49pm

    Please vote for this guy!

    It might not be good for the country but it will be 4 years of gold for every comedian.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  27. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:55pm

    Re:

    "When I said 'a man can't rape his wife', what I was really trying to do was explain my proof that there is no transfinite cardinal number between aleph-naught and continuum."

    link to this | view in thread ]

  28. icon
    Roger Strong (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 2:57pm

    Re:

    Canada...?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  29. identicon
    Nigel, 28 Jul 2015 @ 3:10pm

    Re:

    Lol.. maniacally scratches chin.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  30. icon
    Uriel-238 (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 3:28pm

    Is this a thing

    In order for rich-people progeny to prove they're worthy of their rich-people inheritance they have to achieve a threshold of personal earnings to prove that they too are self-made, which requires a professional degree, typically in law, business or medicine.

    But such degrees are not easy to come by, so when an heir is less than academically suitable they throw money and imbicile at a suitable academy until a graduate comes out.

    And Cohen is one such end result?

    Am I getting the paradigm right?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  31. icon
    lars626 (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 3:31pm

    Simple concept

    It should be so obvious:
    "Sex without consent is rape."
    It doesn't matter if he does it or she does it or they do it. No consent = rape.

    You would think that even a Cooley graduate would understand. What would he say if his sister's husband got over aggressive?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  32. icon
    lars626 (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 3:32pm

    Re: Is this a thing

    Too true. (sigh)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  33. identicon
    AnonCow, 28 Jul 2015 @ 4:01pm

    Michael Cohen is so loathsome that other attorney's tell attorney jokes about him!

    Q: What do you call Michael Cohen driving off a cliff?

    A: A good start!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  34. icon
    Bt Garner (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 4:32pm

    Kind of makes you wonder if Mr. Cohen has some sort of financial ties to Cooley. And I do not mean in the "I still owe student loans" sort of way.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  35. icon
    Sheogorath (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 4:44pm

    Re:

    Because Michael Cohen doesn't believe that marital rape is rape even though it is.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  36. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 5:55pm

    If it’s legitimate gaffe, the GOP body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down

    link to this | view in thread ]

  37. icon
    DocGerbil100 (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 5:55pm

    Okay, It's Donald Trump, nobody outside the US cares, I wasn't going to comment at all, I really was going to just pass this one by, but...

    Jesus H Christ, where in God's name did Trump find this man? Couldn't he have hired someone less horrifying, like a war-criminal or a freshly-released serial-killer?

    I can't help but feel sorry for Cohen's wife and family. From this time forward, every single person they know is going to look at Mrs Cohen like she's being raped on a daily basis. Surely she can do better than this appalling, mindless thug.

    Lawyers are the very definition of people who need to think before they open their mouths, regardless of the provocation.

    It speaks directly to Mr Cohen's credibility - on every possible level - that he could not do so, before causing such damage to himself, his business and his family in this manner.

    I don't imagine Mr Cohen has much of a future anywhere - and I don't imagine anyone who knows him now will miss him very much.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  38. icon
    orbitalinsertion (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 5:57pm

    Re:

    Did you just say that Trump is the best possible candidate?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  39. icon
    orbitalinsertion (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 6:03pm

    Notpology is full of "win"

    It's a very good notpology. And it starts with the amazing tidbit:
    As an attorney, husband and father there are many injustices that offend me but nothing more than charges of rape or racism.


    Not rape or racism. Charges of rape or racism. I swear can feel the privilege from here.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  40. identicon
    teka, 28 Jul 2015 @ 6:43pm

    "I’m going to come at you, grab you by the neck and I’m not going to let you go until I’m finished"
    - Micheal Cohen, 2011

    Sounds very rapey

    link to this | view in thread ]

  41. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 28 Jul 2015 @ 6:47pm

    Re: Notpology is full of "win"

    I liked this bit from the article:
    Donald Trump has previously denied the allegation. In the book, he denies having had the scalp reduction surgery.
    ... It's not clear he ever denied the rape. Just the surgery.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  42. icon
    Bt Garner (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 7:13pm

    Re:

    >where he was metaphorically raped by the media.
    In contemporary linguistic practice, that would be phrased: "... literally raped ..."


    I thought that all lawyers had a de facto relationship, perhaps you could call it a marriage, with the media. So by that definition, he cannot be raped by the media.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  43. identicon
    Winchester Bane, 28 Jul 2015 @ 7:13pm

    Re: Simple concept

    "Sex without consent is rape."
    It doesn't matter if he does it or she does it or they do it. No consent = rape.

    Won't this exclude any *non-consent* play between the spouses?
    There should at least be some leeway when it comes to wooing one's spouse for sex.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  44. icon
    Ehud Gavron (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 8:13pm

    Good Job Daily Beast

    You called out Michael Cohen for claiming you can't rape your spouse but you should have given

    KUDOS to the DailyBeast for standing up to this bully!

    This guy represents a part of Donald Trump. The part he sits on.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  45. identicon
    teka, 28 Jul 2015 @ 8:50pm

    Re: Re: Simple concept

    Trust me when I say that non-consent play is something entirely different from a lack of consent.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  46. identicon
    teka, 28 Jul 2015 @ 8:50pm

    Re: Re: Simple concept

    Trust me when I say that non-consent play is something entirely different from a lack of consent.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  47. icon
    tqk (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 9:10pm

    Re:

    Notice that Trump was quick to throw his esteemed colleague under the bus ...

    Good for him. Why'd he hire him in the first place? Is he still on Trump's staff?

    I think he'd fit right in with the US' notion of prosecutor these days.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  48. icon
    tqk (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 9:16pm

    Re: Please vote for this guy!

    It might not be good for the country but it will be 4 years of gold for every comedian.

    When Trump himself is funnier than anything any comedian can come up with?!? Comedians need straight men, like the Shrub.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  49. icon
    JoeCool (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 9:29pm

    Re: Re:

    Nah, Maryland. "Crazy" obviously refers to DC, so the land North of that is clearly Maryland.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  50. icon
    oliver (profile), 28 Jul 2015 @ 10:47pm

    Hi Mr. Cohen meet Mr. Woodchipper.
    Would you like to go feet first?

    This tool should heed the "Law of Ken White (Popehat)"
    Vague legal threads are a sure sign of legal bullying or thuggery!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  51. identicon
    David, 28 Jul 2015 @ 11:38pm

    Re: Please vote for this guy!

    We had Reagan already.

    The problem is that 4 years of gold for comedians also mean 4 years of gold for military-industrial sock puppet players. And those have had a solid gold run since 2001. And it's not like they fared all that bad before that, either. I think they got their last serious opposition from Carter, and the last somewhat effective opposition from Eisenhower.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  52. identicon
    David, 28 Jul 2015 @ 11:45pm

    Re: Simple concept

    It should be so obvious:
    "Sex without consent is rape."
    It doesn't matter if he does it or she does it or they do it. No consent = rape.

    Ah, but marriage is the shrink-wrapped form of consent. "By acceptance of David Cohen's hand in marriage you indicate consent with all forms of sexual intercourse. If you do not agree to that, return the bridegroom in the original packaging to his parents for a refund."

    Once the groom no longer fits his wedding suit, you're out of luck.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  53. identicon
    David, 28 Jul 2015 @ 11:53pm

    Re: Simple concept

    No consent = rape.

    You would think that even a Cooley graduate would understand. What would he say if his sister's husband got over aggressive?

    "Stop impersonating me!"

    link to this | view in thread ]

  54. identicon
    David, 28 Jul 2015 @ 11:59pm

    Re:

    Well, here is how Alexandre Dumas Pere reacted when an opponent found nothing better to play than the race card: "My father was a mulatto, my grandfather was a Negro, and my great-grandfather a monkey. You see, Sir, my family starts where yours ends."

    I think that you'll find this quote perfectly malleable to your question.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  55. identicon
    David, 29 Jul 2015 @ 12:37am

    Cooley ranking

    "library seating capacity." Apparently, the Thomas Cooley law school has a huge library.

    You can put in a lot more chairs if you get rid of all those books.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  56. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 2:37am

    I always wondered how antidirt's wife interacted with him. Now we know!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  57. icon
    techflaws (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 2:45am

    Re: Re:

    So NOW we know who is this serial apist they go on about on The Big Bang Theory.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  58. icon
    techflaws (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 2:54am

    Re: Re: Re:

    apeist

    link to this | view in thread ]

  59. icon
    Ninja (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 3:53am

    You know what's worse? There are plenty of people that think like these assholes.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  60. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 5:59am

    Re:

    "This guy fancies himself as a pit bull but appears to be more of a chihuahua."

    Judging by his hair, I would've said Chia Pet...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  61. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 6:02am

    Re: Re:

    "...a backwards world where Republicans evolved from Men..."

    link to this | view in thread ]

  62. identicon
    Digitari, 29 Jul 2015 @ 6:15am

    I Stump For Trump

    for one reason and one reason ONLY

    He's the ONLY guy running that CAN NOT be bought.

    what other candidate can you say that about Folks??

    No one ever said the President of the United States had to be a Nice guy.

    (the world is not a nice place)

    link to this | view in thread ]

  63. icon
    Ehud Gavron (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 6:31am

    Trump can't be bought

    Neither can the crap that comes out my ass.

    Not because it's priceless. It's because it's crap nobody would buy, nobody sells, and whether or not there's a market for it, there's more coming out after every meal.

    E

    link to this | view in thread ]

  64. identicon
    Digitari, 29 Jul 2015 @ 6:35am

    Re: Trump can't be bought

    but if I offered you say 100$ for your shit would you really say No!!!!

    I guess you have never heard of human fertilizer

    http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5394

    makes plants grow into a food source for the world to enjoy

    link to this | view in thread ]

  65. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 7:23am

    Re: I Stump For Trump

    You only think he can't be bought. That in and of itself doesn't make it so.
    What other candidate can I say that about? All of them. If you believe ANY of the candidates don't have a price, then you're delusional.

    And I could care less as to whether you feel whether him being a nice guy is important or not.

    He's an asshole, appears to surround himself with assholes, and with power, will likely transform into a bigger asshole.

    The world would be a far nicer place with one less asshole, that's for sure.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  66. identicon
    David, 29 Jul 2015 @ 7:27am

    Re: I Stump For Trump

    He's the ONLY guy running that CAN NOT be bought.

    Because he would not remember what he got the bananas for once he's in a press conference.

    Trump's such a tool that you would not even try to buy him. Instead you'd buy access to him so that you get more time than your opponents to manipulate him into doing your bidding.

    Trump is greedy for power, and so much so that he probably is the cheapest candidate of all to subvert.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  67. icon
    John Fenderson (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 7:48am

    Re: I Stump For Trump

    "He's the ONLY guy running that CAN NOT be bought."

    Oh, of course he can.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  68. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 8:59am

    Re: Re: Please vote for this guy!

    As if Clinton (or whoever will run for the Dems)would reduce the budget of the military. It will go up no matter who takes the office. Threats are everywhere...

    link to this | view in thread ]

  69. icon
    crade (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 9:39am

    Re: Re:

    But the quotes are not from Cohen, they are from the author here:

    " In an astounding article over at The Daily Beast, which was initially over claims of "rape" by Donald Trump's ex-wife Ivana "

    It makes it seem like the author doesn't believe it's really rape either.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  70. icon
    crade (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 9:41am

    Re: Re: Re:

    Or at least that the article from the beast that he is referring to didn't claim it was really rape maybe..

    link to this | view in thread ]

  71. icon
    crade (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 10:24am

    Re: Re: I Stump For Trump

    I would bet he already owes a lot of favors

    link to this | view in thread ]

  72. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 10:35am

    Re: Re:

    No, just the best of the available options.

    Tell me: which do you value more: a cowardly idealist or a brazen fool? Because of the two, the idealist is orders of magnitude more dangerous.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  73. identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 29 Jul 2015 @ 10:37am

    It's also comical to see the leftist weenies flap their hands over this guy. You're afraid someone who won't buy into your bullshit will win office; that you're incapable of measured criticism is utterly telling of your true motives.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  74. icon
    John (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 11:35am

    Lie, truth and the LAW

    When is someone going to take Donald Trump and Michael Cohen to task on these clearly ridiculous lies? If this man wants to be Pres. then he must be able to understand and abide by the LAW! Not some stupid trash that he and his mouth piece are trumpeting.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  75. identicon
    Tavis, 29 Jul 2015 @ 12:27pm

    It’s good to know

    ... that I too can have a top-tier, prestigious law school if I can throw some books in an auditorium.

    Beat that, Harvard!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  76. identicon
    Not Choosing Sides, 29 Jul 2015 @ 1:53pm

    Sorry, Trump

    But, I wouldn't give you a glass of water if your life depended on it OR your lawyers either. But, don't feel bad, its a long list. You're not alone.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  77. icon
    tqk (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 3:16pm

    Re: Re: I Stump For Trump

    The biggest problem I see is, assholes are all you seem to get rising up to be "cream of the crop". I *think* Sanders is an exception, but who really knows? Rand Paul seems an exception, but he's certainly asshole-ish in ways too (attacking planned parenthood? Why?).

    The others, assholes without exception, Democrat and Republican. Very sad.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  78. icon
    Sheogorath (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 3:39pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Oh, sorry. I thought you meant the quotes in the comment by the fake Michael Cohen, and answered the wrong question. To answer correctly: I would guess that the quotes where there because Ivana Trump has since decided that she wasn't raped after all, even though her description is of a violent rape.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  79. icon
    tqk (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 3:47pm

    Re: Re: Re:

    Tell me: which do you value more: a cowardly idealist or a brazen fool?

    The cowardly idealist. All they need to do is grow a backbone and stand up on their hind legs, something that's happened often in history. A fool's a fool, and will ever remain that way.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  80. icon
    tqk (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 4:06pm

    Re: Lie, truth and the LAW

    If this man wants to be Pres. then he must be able to understand and abide by the LAW!

    I don't think anyone seriously believes Trump has a chance in Hades of becoming pres. This is all just icing on the cake of the coronation of the King/Queen. The backroom money has already been spent (spoken). Now, things like Trump's "bump" is color making the coronation interesting for the plebes watching and believing *their* great white hope will succeed, whichever "great white hope" they may be rooting for.

    It's a little shocking to realize that US-ians still think this thing is up to them to decide what happens in the end. It's rigged!

    link to this | view in thread ]

  81. icon
    The Groove Tiger (profile), 29 Jul 2015 @ 10:03pm

    Re: Simple concept

    You would think that even a Cooley graduate would understand. What would he say if his sister's husband got over aggressive?

    That he's having second thoughts about this threesome?

    link to this | view in thread ]

  82. icon
    Bergman (profile), 1 Aug 2015 @ 10:30pm

    Re: Re:

    Either way he's an anklebiter.

    link to this | view in thread ]

  83. identicon
    jIM, 15 Nov 2017 @ 2:56am

    Cooley

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Michigan_University_Cooley_Law_School

    "During the 2015-2016 application cycle, Cooley admitted 85.8% of applicants. The entering fall 2016 class had a median GPA of 2.90 and median LSAT of 141 (15th percentile of test takers)."

    link to this | view in thread ]


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