Telekom Gets Smartwatch Maker To Change All Its Logos Because Magenta
from the purple-productivity-eaters dept
While trademarks being granted for colors strikes me as a special brand of silly in general, there really must be something about the color purple and its associated shades that sparks protectionism. Purple/magenta has been the subject of trademark bullying from several entities in the past, including CraftsAmericana Group, T-Mobile, and Cadbury. What moves the needle on most of these stories from "trademark-gone-too-far" to "trademark bullying" is that these actions tend to be brought against other groups that aren't even operating within the same industry as the offended. That's key in trademark disputes where, in most cases, the two parties must be competing with one another for infringement to occur.
Well, T-Mobile's parent company, Deutsche Telekom, appears to be at it again, sending out threat letters to OXY, makers of a soon-to-be-launched smartwatch, all because the startup dared to use the color magenta in its logo. The company explained to the public why it had to change all of its branding on its website.
Let’s start at the beginning. On August 19th 2015, we filed a trademark for our OXY logo (see the image below) with the Intellectual Properties Office of the United Kingdom. Our registration included the colors pink (#E91E63) and blue-grey (#455A64) and we made sure that, within the classes we filed for (class 9 and class 25), there were no other trademarks interfering with our classification.OXY states that the notices it received from HLI LLP prohibit it from disclosing the reason for the opposition but that anyone looking into the matter between it and Deutsche Telekom would be able to guess why. That's true, with a brief review of the prior OXY logo and that of Deutsche Telekom.
On November 3rd, 16 days before we expected the trademark to become official, we received a ‘notice of threatened opposition’ concerning our pending trademark. According to the IPO, it was issued by Deutsche Telekom AG. In addition to the official notice, we received a relatively 'urgent' sounding email from Telekom’s lawyer firm, Hogan Lovells International LLP.
So, yeah, magenta again. But not really, as OXY registered its mark using a shade of pink, not magenta, and that difference means that holy shit can we all agree that trademarking colors like this is dumb now? OXY goes on to note that Deutsche Telekom has opposed the trademarks of other companies over the color magenta, but that at least most of the time its targets were in some way competing with it.
While it is debatable whether or not this behaviour is fair, the above mentioned entities (except Engadget) were arguably in direct competition with Deutsche Telekom AG. Plus, Deutsche Telekom AG is by far not the only company owning a color-related trademark and they are also not alone in filing corresponding lawsuits. But why did they want us to change our logo? We are making a smartwatch - nothing that would eventually compete with Telekom’s products and services.That distinction would likely mean that OXY had a good case to defend itself on the merits. Unfortunately, as is the case in too many of these trademark bullying stories, fear and lack of resources made the smarter decision for OXY to simply be to cave and go through the hassle of changing all of its logo and marketing material to remove the offending pink/magenta.
After a few hours, we got very valuable feedback from our external advisors and started to slowly understand what was going on. Since we didn’t have the financial resources to fight Deutsche Telekom AG on this matter, and because we also didn’t want to just ignore them, we basically had two options left: We could either negotiate with Telekom to find a price for using the old logo, or we could change everything.All in the name of trademark, built to keep customers from being confused, while instead being used simply to push small new businesses around for no valid reason. Yay.
Last weekend, we had to change all logos and colors of the OXY brand, which included modifying over 25,000 image files and countless other design related properties. Besides substituting the colors in most of our design elements, we had to update all our social media channels, our website and our upcoming Indiegogo page. As you can probably imagine, it took us a while, and we didn’t really enjoy doing it.
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Filed Under: logos, magenta, smartwatch, trademark
Companies: deutsche telekom, oxy
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They don't seem to be a crazy tiny company, but that's still a non-trivial cost they had to bear, because... reasons.
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And changing 25,000 image files? Updating every place that used them?
This cost them at least 10x that amount. Maybe 50x.
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Right or wrong, rich or poor
A perfect example of a completely broken system. It doesn't matter if you're right, it doesn't matter if you're innocent, if you don't have the money to fight back and/or defend yourself you're screwed.
Guilt or innocence is near meaningless in today's legal system, all that matters is the size of your bank account.
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It's an easy fix.
The only people who oppose it are those who win by intimidation.
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Such a change is clearly anti-lawyer, and therefor completely unacceptable.
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Not really. It's possibly a start but there's still nothing to stop, say, a company from using stalling tactics to create market uncertainty to undermine competition. Defending litigation can be extremely costly even if you eventually have the lawyer's bills paid for you.
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But yeah, Deutsche Telekom is being a bully.
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So, how long before...
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Let's all agree...
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Can someone explain how this is possible?
If I get a letter from someone I can tell who the frig I want to what is in the letter.
This notice was sent by some form of Law enforcement agency?
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...to add Deutsche Telekom in general and T-Mobile in particular to the list of companies with whom we refuse to do business and that we disparage to everyone we meet. Every dollar they don't make is a dollar they can't spend bullying smaller companies.
I wish genuinely more people would actually do this sort of thing for real, I would love to see total boycotts of companies on a grand scale, alas it will never happen because everyone wants their shiny things . . .
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not only that, but where you gonna go ? ? ?
The They (tm) have you by the short and curlies...
arguendo:
A. you need a cellular telephonic computing machine technology thingy,
B. you have X number of carriers available in your area,
C. HOW many is that ?
D. what do you do when you go through all X of them, and find they are ALL EEE-vil, and ALL suck at customer service, etc ? ? ?
E. see, A.
(oh, and for extra credit, you can plug this formula into nearly ANY major 'commodity' service -phone, banking, media, health insurance, utilities, etc- and get the same result... seeing a pattern ? ? ? i know the conclusions -while inescapable- are like kryptonite to proper propaganda viktims raised on a steady diet of kapitalist imperialism... yeah, i'm looking *directly* at you, mr. whatever...)
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Evil triumphs, when good men (and even companies) do nothing
OXY really should have challenged D.T. in a legal battle. They could probably have requested summary judgment against the trademark on the grounds that magenta doesn't even exist; it's a creation of the mind. http://boingboing.net/2009/02/16/magenta-isnt-a-real.html
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Uh oh..
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We had an accounting lady once....
I was worried, because she was always strictly blue background, nothing bright or crazy.
I was right to be worried, because this large of a behavior change was the canary to the brain aneurysm she ended up having a couple of months later.
Both sides should get checked with their doctor immediately.
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