White House Supports Privacy Destroying CISA, Despite Past Promises It Would Not
from the this-is-a-problem dept
In the past, President Obama has threatened to veto any cybersecurity bill that undermines privacy and civil liberties. Of course, people didn't quite believe that was true, and now that we see the final cybersecurity bill, the bastardized CISA has been attached to the "must pass" omnibus spending bill, and clearly is a disaster on privacy issues, what do you think the White House is saying?Well, they love it, of course:
"We are pleased that the Omnibus includes cybersecurity information sharing legislation," a senior administration official said in an emailed statement. "The President has long called on Congress to pass cybersecurity information sharing legislation that will help the private sector and government share more cyber threat information by providing for targeted liability protections while carefully safeguarding privacy, confidentiality, and civil liberties."Except, you know, it doesn't actually do that last part.
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They are pleased that they tacked on a rider bill - that has been spoken out against and shot down how many times?
"The President has long called on Congress to pass cybersecurity information sharing legislation that will help the private sector and government share more cyber threat information by providing for targeted liability protections while carefully safeguarding privacy, confidentiality, and civil liberties."
That will help the government steal everyone's information - without warrant, and allow your service provider to spy on you? The only "protections" left in this bill are those that protect providers from being sued for violating a user's 'inalienable' rights. What a god damn joke.
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Ryan just threw our privacy under the omni Bus
While the Dems just put the ISIS on this cake.
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To whom it may concern
Anyone here, understand that THESE PEOPLE are employees??
Lets cut some wages?
Lets search their Lockers..
Lets read all their EMAILS..and secret data, they keep HIDING from us..
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Of course they do
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If this bill were about somehow "limiting" a wild west environment, you might have a point. But seeing as it's actually about getting tech companies to cough up more private info to the gov't, not sure I get your point.
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Don't want Google reading through your emails? Don't use Gmail.
Don't want your ISP and/or spy agencies recording your activity online? Don't use the internet.
No matter how many times people try and divert attention away from government spying with the 'But Google!' dodge, there remains a very significant difference between the two.
One of them can throw you in jail, the other cannot.
One of them can file charges against you, the other cannot.
One of them you can choose not to involve yourself with, the other you cannot.
I'll let you have fun figuring out which is which.
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You've really lost the plot there, guy.
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FUD? For that to be FUD, you would have to be claiming that the government doesn't spy on it's own citizens, and cannot use the information they gather to throw you in jail, neither of which are true.
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/conspiracy theory
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Google just wants your data to show you products and help you navigate. The feds want it for law enforcement. Big difference.
Especially since the DOJ is now looking to crack down on domestic anti-government groups. Better watch what you say online...
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The native americans who, despite having lived on the land for generations, were prevented from being represented in the 'new' American community and subjected to discriminatory restrictions and violence.
Did I get it right?
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Hyphen
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So know we hide from the ISP's
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Newsflash; the government doesn't care about your stupid groupons.
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That's what I don't get about the US system. Can you just put anything into another bill? Like that thing must pass or the Gov goes down so we attach things people would never approve too.
If that is the case then from my point of view the system seems (a bit) broken.
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Even funnier watching them try and do so by pulling the 'But Google spies on you too!' distraction, as though the two were even remotely similar. If government spying is good, and Google spying is bad, then it's pretty clear they don't actually care about the spying bit, they just don't like Google.
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It's not either/or. Government spying doesn't make Google spying ok, and Google spying doesn't make government spying ok.
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Indeed and quite possible respectively. Companies gathering as much personal data as they can does make for a very juicy target for the government, making for a much easier time grabbing massive amounts of data, yet at the same time even without those treasure troves of data, the government would still have done their best to grab everything they could, and with the kind of money they have to work with, and a nice and complaint 'oversight' 'court' and committee, 'more difficult' really isn't saying much.
It's not either/or. Government spying doesn't make Google spying ok, and Google spying doesn't make government spying ok.
Agreed, and no, one doesn't make the other okay, but one of them is vastly more worrisome than the other, and it's not Google's spying. Google, big as it is, is one company, the government can force or 'entice' many companies into spying for them, especially if they can dangle 'legal immunity' in front of the companies.
Worry about Google spying some other day, for now there are much bigger concerns with regards to privacy.
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A politician lied. In other news; Bears crap in the woods and water is wet.
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How many promises has Obama broken?
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Twisted
Critical information streams are fed onto the internet. Law enforcement and national defense have taken extreme liberties in their efforts to protect and to serve.
If the internet is so riddled with the means to bring on the imminent destruction of entire nations then we need to know. We need to know some specifics. The threat of the loss of a plane, a building, 10,000 men, women and children much less the risk of theft of money, identity or your loathsome grasp on art is not it. Militants claiming to comprise an ISIS is not it. Anonymous is not it. Global warming is not it. A fat hairy bastard in the basement diddling his way through NASA is not it.
Our government is all but completely trashing us. For what? Military contracts? Drugs? Pedophiles? What? .. The "law"? Chya, I think that ship sailed, Mr. Secret.
We need to know more and our government has been doing almost nothing but taking, on numerous fronts, for well over half a century. Look it up. It's time to give something back to the people if it is truly the people that they wish to serve. That may beg the question though, mightn't it?
No. We get corrupted Media, Mafiaa-assoes, forcible theft via monops & duops, health care, pills and the fucking po-lice. Meanwhile, I have two senators alll about intel co-ops and "OMFG we need some GD CYBERSECURITY up in here!" while articulating their ignorance with extreme dedication to their duties with smooth linguistic dexterity navigating the realms of politics, parties and re-election.
The "intel committees" in Congress? Tell me again why only a handful of people chosen to represent us all should know what's about to take us all out. Exactly. The entire intel outfit has become a joke and is becoming and extreme liability - and yet they remain free to keep on taking. Free of reigns, laws and oversight, proper oversight.
And if you're reading this and if offends you, your morals or your sense of duty (or inherent underlying vein of extreme greed) then fuck off. You know exactly what I'm talking about, don't you? Bitch.
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Fuck it, I'm voting for Trump...
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