2002 Legal Rationale For Warrantless Surveillance: Because The President Can Do It, Shut Up
from the how-is-john-yoo-not-in-jail? dept
Oh, John Yoo. The former top Bush administration lawyer -- who is already well-known for writing that administration's (totally bullshit) "legal defense" for torture -- has also been an outspoken advocate for NSA surveillance as well. Soon after the Snowden revelations, Yoo defended the NSA arguing that the 4th Amendment shouldn't apply to the NSA because it takes too long. Then, he said that judges shouldn't be allowed to determine if the NSA violated the 4th Amendment because they're too out of touch with the American public. It's long been known that Yoo also was deeply involved in creating the legal justifications for that very warrantless surveillance program he's been defending, and now, finally, years later, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has released the May 17, 2002 letter that Yoo sent to the FISA Court chief judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly. You can read it here.As the ODNI release notes, Judge Kollar-Kotelly was allowed to read the letter, justifying the NSA's warrantless surveillance on Americans, but "was not authorized to retain a copy or take notes" because nothing says transparency democracy like secret interpretations of the law where no one's allowed to know the details, and the people overseeing it are only allowed to glance at the justifications. It was the "re-evaluation" of this John Yoo rationalization that created the now infamous hospital room showdown in March of 2004, when some in the administration realized that Yoo was basically full of shit.
Anyway, now the Yoo memo (with plenty of redactions, of course!) has been released, and we can see just how absolutely ridiculous the whole thing was. In short, Yoo argues that even though, historically, the NSA was not allowed to do warrantless surveillance on Americans and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) made it clear that domestic surveillance needed to first be approved with warrants to the FISA Court (which is barely a court anyway), there was nothing that said that had to be the case, and the President was basically free to turn the NSA loose to spy on Americans without any FISA approval. First, he notes that the NSA is not technically or legally limited in surveilling Americans, even if it historically avoided doing so:
And here's where he gets really tricky. He says that FISA is not necessarily a limitation on what kind of surveillance can be done, but merely a safe harbor such that if you follow it you're automatically presumed safe under the 4th Amendment. However, he insists that FISA cannot limit the President's constitutional powers, and thus the President can still order warrantless domestic surveillance outside of FISA, and the only issue is that it's outside of the FISA "safe harbors" -- so it may not be automatically presumed in compliance with the 4th Amendment:
Did you see the neat trick he played there? First, he showed that the President can ignore FISA and Executive Order 12333, and then used FISA (which he already said the President could ignore) to argue that the 4th Amendment standards don't really apply either. You want to know why lawyers get a bad name for bullshit arguments? Look at John Yoo -- and then remember that his bullshit arguments weren't just around a single case, but to justify spying on all Americans without a warrant (we'll leave aside the fact that he did the same thing for torture as well).
From there, he actually argues that a court reading FISA to restrict the President would create a constitutional conflict:
From there, Yoo then tries to argue that warrantless wiretapping of basically everyone in America also does not violate the 4th Amendment. First, he argues that the 4th Amendment does not apply to non-US persons. Next, he said that communications that leave the US electronically are also no longer subject to the 4th Amendment due to the "border search exception" -- an issue that we've discussed plenty of times for people who have had their laptops searched as they enter the country. This, apparently, is part of Yoo's 4th Amendment loophole. Any communications involving Americans that happens to slip outside of US borders loses any 4th Amendment protections. The fact that it's digital, not physical, makes no difference according to John Yoo's extremely distorted moral compass. But, he admits that there might be some concerns about the border search theory with regards to the contents of email and phone calls, so he has a trick: how about we just say the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to the metadata, and we'll call it even.
Then he uses the infamous Smith v. Maryland case, that established the Third Party Doctrine to argue further that there's no 4th Amendment issue with sucking up all metadata. We've heard this argument many times in court by now. Because this one 1979 ruling, which was about whether or not law enforcement could get the phone records of a single phone from a person that they were tracking for criminal behavior, that means that everyone has given up any expectation of privacy in any metadata they have on any communications record -- including email. This also suggests Yoo has no clue how email works. The reason that the phone records were considered legit was because the phone company had to track all of your phone calls for billing reasons, and thus had a "legitimate business purpose" in keeping track of all your phone record metadata. That's not how email works, but Yoo basically pretends it does:
Next up, Yoo argues that because the Fourth Amendment was really designed to deal with "curbing law enforcement abuses," it really shouldn't apply to support for "military operations." And since the response to 9/11 is really about military operations, the 4th Amendment shouldn't apply to spying on all Americans because it's to support that purpose:
This is a really sickening letter. At the very least, it should have been made public at the time it was written so that it could have been debated (and trashed as ridiculous) at the time it was made. Instead, it was done in secret, given to a judge who could only read it and not keep it or take notes, and then wasn't revealed publicly for almost 14 years. This is not how a democracy is supposed to function.
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Filed Under: 4th amendment, colleen kollar-kotelly, email, fisa, john yoo, legal rationale, metadata, nsa, surveillance, warrantless surveillance, warrantless wiretapping
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Disgusting, but not in any way surprising
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whenever they damn well please. Bush & Obama are hardly the first corrupt presidents that we have had. Maybe the worst, but hardly the first.
"The People" have long been asleep and have forsaken the wisdom of the Founders of this nation. People use the excuse that these are new times to justify this break but those are the ones that never learned from history.
High Technology and Fast travel has not changed that old ploy of "raping the liberty of your people under the guise of fighting a foreign enemy" one iota. The game has always been afoot and the only ones now ignorant to this are "The People". The very ones excusing themselves from responsibility and blaming those in power.
Every country has a government it deserves, and every democracy has the leader it deserves.
We have been fighting over scraps from the table so long we have forgotten we actually control it.
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Have been expertly divided in Red and Blue teams, and as long as that remains the case we will move forward to the tyrannical future.
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Remember, according to him, he is allowed to write drivel that purportedly justifies illegal acts by the US government while keeping those justifications from anyone who might object to them, including the government of the people, by the people, rather than over the people.
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Maybe it's some kind of psychopathy, sociopathy or whatever mental illness... But seriously, I would like to know.
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When we stand for our judgement, none will claim ignorance. We know, we have always known, yet we feign ignorance and expect to remain free of judgement when the time comes.
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It is called Propofol, and it is not real sleep, it's called sedation.
Hopefully he has a sooper doctor administering his "sleep" meds too.
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I didn't realize you was spelled Yoo.
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Fuck Yoo!
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Democracy?
Reality check. The U.S.A. was never supposed to be a democracy but rather a Constitutional Republic. The latter is shielded from the effects of the former by the whole electoral process, intended to counterbalance the corrosive effects of both crowd stupidity from the bottom and corruption from the top.
Admittedly, the current U.S. government has a somewhat dim view of "Constitutional" as well as "Republic" (by the people, for the people). Political parties, mass media, and lobbying work on dismantling prudence, integrity, and dedication to a degree where the building materials for neither democracy nor constitutional republic are readily available and/or reliably workable any more.
The current form is rather evolving into burlesque fascism.
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Not how it works?
Of course, I suppose nothing is truly stopping an ISP from harvesting email addresses, maintaining permanent logs, or otherwise using the SMTP envelope data for "business purposes", but I wouldn't go so far as to say there's no expectation of privacy around any of it.
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Yoo's 4th ammendment loophole - 'border search exception'
All US to US ip traffic was being routed
out of US and back. I was a heavy traceroute
user back then and magically traceroutes to
well known US websites that used to take 5 to 8
hops jumped to near 30 hops. I knew something
was fishy at that point. The NSA2 conspiracy was
in play. While all of us techs were
concentrating on the y2k planning, remediation,
and rollover, the darkside was preparing for 9-11,
fixing the vote in Forida, and greasing the
skids for Bush v. Gore at SCOTUS.
In short, everyone was distracted and not paying
enough attention including myself.
Then, in 2006-01-31, Hepting v. Att.
The US goverment quickly jumped in and
tried to intervene in the case.
The court did not buy the US goverments arguments.
I recall that near this time, I had a discussion
with a very well known lawyer (especially well
known at this time), and I argued that the US government
was looking for a way to get the telcos
retroactive immunity for their part in
the illegal spying program. He disagreed.
Then, more lawsuits were filed against various
telcos, and the government realized they
had a bigger problem on their hands.
So, on 2008-06-19, the FISA Amendments Act (FAA)
was introduced. Less than three weeks later,
A fear-mongered Congress passed the bill.
I was correct. It gave the telcos immunity.
I am 100% certain, that at this point
in time (post Snowden), that
the lawyer that disagreed with me,
now realizes that I was spot on.
Fortunately, Jewel v. NSA is still alive.
And, of course, the US government attack on Apple.
The truth will come out eventually,
but by then most of the conspirators
will be dead. They will have inflicted
a lot of damage on this planet in their
quest to rule the world.
My message to you: everyone must pay
attention to what is happening and how
you are being attacked.
Stop being distracted. Do not allow retroactive
immunity ever again. Retroactive immunity is
a slippery slope just like the current US
government attacks on Apple in their attempt to
outlaw encryption.
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Damn impressive
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surveillance is a "military action"?
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Context is interesting
Judge Kollar-Kotelly was allowed to read the letter, justifying the NSA's warrantless surveillance on Americans, but "was not authorized to retain a copy or take notes"
First of all, in what court is someone allowed to dictate what recording the court is able to make of their argument. It's one thing to ASK the judge to seal records, it's quite another to tell the judge that the court can have no record.
Secondly, this letter intended for the FISA judge says basically that they really don't need to use FISA. It seems like the intent is to cow the Jodge Kollar-Kotelly into approving whatever the executive wants. If she wants any minimizations at all, she better play nice, or the exec will just stop bringing requests to FISA.
(As an aside, I find it annoying that the release never completely disavows this letter. And where it does mentions changes since the letter, it's full of caveats. It talks of how surveillance under TSP/PSP is now transitioned to FISA oversight - With no mention of the current state pf surveillance that was not done under TSP/PSP.)
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Also why are the media not making a bigger deal about this kind of thing?
Finally why is the country not protesting against this?
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Come The Revolution? Good Luck With That!
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Yoo's rationale should win him a vacation
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Trust Me Not
The US government which used John Yoo's "legal opinions" resulting in torture and mass surveillance would like for it's citizens to trust it's actions are wholesome as it operates in almost complete secrecy with zero accountability.
Take for instance a quote from FBI Director J Edgar Comey's congressional testimony today, 1Mar16, excerpted from The Guardian:
“The FBI is not an alien force imposed on the American people from Mars”
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/live/2016/mar/01/apple-fbi-congressional-hearing-live?p age=with:block-56d5e7afe4b023cfa49eb9ca
FBI Director J Edgar Comey is absolutely correct in that the FBI is not an alien force.
The FBI is however staffed by agents who are human and thus may be tempted by the allure of power (especially that which is wielded in secret) and must be bound down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution (to paraphrase Thomas Jefferson http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch8s41.html).
Binding down the agents of government with the Constitution is critically important when the government agency or department is in all effect a opaque secret police society that has repeatedly broken the law (eg FBI COINTELPRO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO) in the past under the charade of protecting national security.
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We're the PoS President's bosses.
There - now you have exactly 30 minutes to vacate the premises that you're now illegally occupying.
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treasonous traitor needs a trail
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The law is the law
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