ISPs Now Charging Broadband Users A Steep Premium If They Want To Avoid Usage Caps
from the captive-audience dept
Thanks to the lack of broadband competition, the ISP push to impose unnecessary and arbitrary usage caps shows no sign of slowing down. Comcast continues to expand its "trial" of usage caps and overage fees, while AT&T has followed suit. And both companies have now started adding a new wrinkle to the mix, charging consumers $30 to $35 more per month if they want to avoid usage caps entirely. That's right, despite broadband getting cheaper than ever to provide, ISPs are now charging you a massive monthly premium if you want the same unlimited broadband service you enjoyed yesterday.Now Suddenlink, a US cable operator recently bought by French telecom Altice, is also joining the festivities. The company is now informing customers that they can avoid usage caps if they're willing to sign a long-term contract. In year one of that contract avoiding usage caps is "free." In year two it will cost users $5 more a month, and $10 a month after that. Obviously there's nothing stopping the "hey, don't cap me" fee from skyrocketing further down the road. The caps and added fees are necessary, Suddenlink insists, to improve the "consumer experience":
"Data plans are one step among several that help us continue delivering a quality Internet experience for our customers. Other steps include the sizable investments we’ve made and continue making to provide greater downstream and upstream system capacity and more bandwidth per home. Even with those investments, a relatively few customers use a disproportionate amount of data, which can negatively affect the Internet experience of those who use far less. That’s why, as a complement to our network investments, we’ve established data plans."The particular usage cap "experience" at Suddenlink has been a rocky one for customers. Suddenlink originally imposed usage caps back in 2012, but had to back off the attempt after users complained they were being billed for usage when their modems were off or they weren't at home (regulators have shown no interest in regulating meter accuracy, so as a result they often aren't). By 2013 the ISP claimed it had sorted out most of its problems, and now imposes current usage caps that range from 250 GB to 550 GB, depending on speed. Users pay $10 per each 50 GB over the cap they travel.
While Suddenlink's $10 is better than the $30-$35 being charged by AT&T and Comcast to avoid being capped, the precedent remains problematic all the same. Usage caps simply aren't necessary on modern, well-managed networks; flat-rate pricing has proven perfectly profitable enough to help fund infrastructure improvements. What usage caps do is protect legacy TV from Internet video, while letting companies charge a captive audience more money for a product whose provisioning costs are dropping. Just ask Suddenlink CEO Jerry Kent, who acknowledged the latter to investors a few years ago:
"I think one of the things people don’t realize [relates to] the question of capital intensity and having to keep spending to keep up with capacity. Those days are basically over, and you are seeing significant free cash flow generated from the cable operators as our capital expenditures continue to come down.”Kent has since crowed to investors about how usage caps "have become a significant revenue stream for us." And that's great for broadband duopolies, but notably less great for consumers already paying some of the highest broadband prices in the developed world. It's also problematic for the startups, small companies and other innovators that are going to be hurt by the move toward zero rating only the biggest, wealthiest companies from usage caps (yet another layer of new revenue on a service that costs less and less to provide, especially if you're happily skimping on customer service).
As we've noted a few times companies like AT&T and Verizon are giving up on unwanted DSL customers, in turn creating a stronger cable monopoly -- one that intends on taking full advantage.
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Flimsy excuses
So they're continually paying to improve their networks to keep up with increased use, and that's why prices have to rise to keep match. That excuse might have been valid if their CEO hadn't been bragging on the subject elsewhere...
"I think one of the things people don’t realize [relates to] the question of capital intensity and having to keep spending to keep up with capacity. Those days are basically over, and you are seeing significant free cash flow generated from the cable operators as our capital expenditures continue to come down.”
As the statement seems to make pretty clear, despite what they are telling their customers they aren't spending notable amounts to upgrade their networks, which means the price increases have nothing to do with that, and are instead just blatant cash-grabs simply because they can.
'Even with those investments, a relatively few customers use a disproportionate amount of data, which can negatively affect the Internet experience of those who use far less.'
This excuse also falls flat under even the most trivial of scrutiny, as if the majority of people don't use that much data, with only a 'relatively few' customers using a significant amount, then the fair thing to do would be to impose restrictions on the 'super-users', such that they don't negatively affect the connection for others, not hit everyone with a data cap that according to their own words wouldn't even be necessary for the vast majority of their customers.
The excuse for caps is even more full of holes when you factor in the fact that customers can simply pay more for 'unlimited' data, which means that the 'super-users' can still put significant strain on the network, causing problems for other users, they just need to pay a little more to do it. Given that the idea that the caps aren't due to wanting more money, but because the network simply can't handle the load is rubbish; if that were really the case then no amount of extra money would allow one to bypass the caps.
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Heck, if you want to optimize the network sell a tier where speeds are throttled during peak times at a discount but don't do caps. Of course if the idea is to make free money and the Govt is a little sheep who won't move a finger to punish misdeeds then go for it. Better than cocaine.
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But isn't that exactly what they're doing? Placing a cap high enough that the vast majority of their customers won't hit, so that it only affects the "super-users", who end up paying more because they're using more?
I'm all for calling ISPs out on bad behavior, but I don't actually see anything unfair here.
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Example of competion in broadband
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If I had Bill Gates wealth, I would copy Google Fiber and invest everything I earn from it back into extending and improving the network. Once it reaches everyone in america, start spreading it throughout the world. If the world had gigabit internet available everywhere to everyone, education would be universal.
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Privacy I can take care of much cheaper myself; it's called VPN. Let them Sandvine the encrypted tunnel for their data. It's much cheaper than $30 a month.
I don't have what I consider a dependable connection. Nor is it broadband by the FCC's definition. So I won't pay for this service what I might be willing to pay were it meeting the requirement speed for broadband.
What I will do is the same thing I did for PPV many years ago because it wasn't meeting my needs for the price being paid. I will simply terminate the service first time my bill goes up.
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If I want an enterprise SLA, that same 70/70 line is now closer to $1,000/m, but identical performance characteristics. The ISP claims that the main difference is the SLA, how you're connected to the core(strait connection instead of a fiber aggregator and aggregators are not over-subscribed), and how maintenance is handled. Other than that, I should never notice a difference in performance between the two. Both residential and enterprise connections are dedicated and they do not do any QoS, and all customers take the same routes.
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It Could Be Worse
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And one also needs to ask if ISPs will grow those caps alongside usage, or if they'll squeeze to make more profit from more people. As companies that need improved quarterly earnings bumps, I think the answer to that should be pretty obvious.
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It's called quality of service. Usually when you first start using your Internet you are given a token but if you keep using it and there is a lot of other traffic your token wares off to give someone else an opportunity.
What they can do is throttle high profile users during times of high usage to give everyone equal bandwidth but allow anyone to consume as much bandwidth as they want during low usage hours. During low usage hours intense usage has no effect on anyone else. It's not like a bandwidth hog affects anyone else when he's hogging the bandwidth during a time no one else is using it and his time using it while no one else is using it doesn't affect anyone else during times that everyone else uses it.
This is just a matter of them
A: managing what bandwidth they have
B: Investing in their infrastructure to make upgrades
but with little competition thanks to govt laws why should they?
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Yet Whatever will argue tooth and nail that this is not the case even as executives of these corporations admit to it.
How does Whatever plan on responding to this ... (crickets, crickets).
I know, I know. He will pretend he didn't read it and make his same nonsense claims elsewhere about how bad the bandwidth hog is and how expensive running an ISP is. He will pretend this statement was never made and continue on his business accordingly.
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No choice and no choice.
Doesn't qualify as broadband, or even state-of-the-art.
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Money comes first
It's no longer a case of "how can we make a profit in this business" but "how can we make an even larger profit, preferably without delivering a product or service". There's no reason to have data caps like there's no reason to charge a $5 ATM fee to access your own money or a $35 fee to carry luggage on an airplane or charge $50 to choose a seat on an airplane.
And I think it may only be a matter of time until other industries figure out ways to charge for things that were previously free.
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Re: No choice and no choice.
ISP's also don't like users running their own web servers over their bandwidth. Again, they get away with these requirements due to a lack of competition ...
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I live in a two person household. No cable TV or phone, just internet. We watch Netflix in the evenings and on weekends and I sometimes download an Xbox one game (~5gb), normally not more than one a Month.
My only other options are DSL or wireless, both sub-par. There is a fiber optic cable running not one block from my house but the company that owns it (NTS) services only Businesses. I can only assume they have agreed not to compete with Suddenlink.
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C; Replacing income lost due to cable cutting.
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Is the broadband industry making enough incremental revenue on cap overcharges to warrant the blowback from angry customers?
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I have a friend that works at a company with an OC3 connection to AT&T, and his ping to Hawaii is about 2x that of mine(I'm about 100ms and he's about 200ms). Because Level 3 has awesome world wide routing and only peers with the best for long haul.
No congestion in my ISP and no congestion on the Internet backbone. I've done multi-hour load tests during peak hours, 8p-10p, and when fully saturating my connection from a server in New York City, I averaged 99.5Mb/s +-0.2Mb/s. I have the 100/100 package. Pretty much a flat line. All the while I maintained my 10ms ping to Chicago with no additional packet loss. Low ping under load because they use an anti-bufferbloat AQM.
I have fractional millisecond NTP jitter to time servers from around the USA.
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The arguments I've heard from (greedy - sorry, redundant) ISPs draw analogies like they're providing gas or coal, and if one user consumes a large amount, there's less for everyone else. A truer analogy is selling access to a private road where you are allowed to run a certain number of vehicles per hour. If the road will support all users running that number of vehicles per hour, it won't matter if a user runs that number of vehicles per hour every hour of the month, it won't lessen other users' ability to run their number of vehicles per hour.
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TWC
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That's what they receive government subsidies for, and they still mismanage those funds.
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That's an even greater sin than usage caps, right there.
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I would happily pay the usage cap fee of $30 while jacking my bandwidth usage to 100% max line speed, both up and down, * 24 hours per day, * 7 days per week, * 365 days per year.
I will spend some of my free time badmouthing my ISP everywhere I'm able to online, even picking out names from local office's management to spread rumors about marital infidelity.
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If you're suggesting that an ISP capacity to support all users using full bandwidth at the same time then that's as unrealistic as saying a highway should be able to support all the drivers in town at the same time. That would require a private lane for each customer if they ever expect to get their speed (whatever the speed limit is). The only reason we can afford to have a road to drive on is because we share the cost with other people who use the same road.
The premise is that you will drive on the road and when you get where you're going you will get off the road and go watch a move, work, play at the park etc. Now that people are streaming everything, it's like everyone in town are jobless rich people that stay on the road at all times never running out of gas. Imagine the traffic jam.
So the analogy is true to compare to a utility because the only reason you have water pressure in your house is because everyone in your neighborhood are not leaving every tap in their houses on at the same time. When people talk about cheap capacity a lot of people don't realize they're talking about the network core. The access network (house to local office) is the most expensive part and most likely to be where the bottleneck is.
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This is just GREAT news for me, considering that Atlice is trying to buy my ISP, Cablevision. :(
What should be obvious about this extra fee, but which I haven't seen anyone clearly point out is that by charging an extra fee for unlimited usage, they've effectively created a new "unlimited" tier of service. In the past many ISPs have offered a lower-priced, capped service and a higher-priced unlimited service. Now they cap the previously unlimited service and offer a new uncapped one. How will this be any different?
How long will it be before the users who are paying the extra $10-35 a month for "unlimited" service are told that they're using an "unreasonable" amount of data and that they'll capped/throttled/have to pay more?
Jacking up the price for unlimited service for no valid reason is sleazy enough, but there's absolutely nothing to prevent them from pulling the same bait and switch again and again.
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As long as there's no competition, they don't have much to worry about. The FCC might clip their wings a bit, but they'll find somewhere else to make it up.
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