Greenpeace Publishes Leaked TTIP Documents... Show How Backroom Deals Are Driven By Lobbyists
from the because-of-course-they-are dept
We've written plenty of stories about the TTIP (Transatlantic Trade & Investment Partnership) agreement being worked on between the US and the EU. Think of it as the companion to the TPP, which covers the US and a variety of countries around the Pacific ocean. Like the TPP, the US has demanded extreme levels of secrecy around the negotiations (in the past, the US negotiating body, the USTR, has admitted that the more the public is aware of the details, the less likely they are to support the agreement). And while there have been reports out of the EU arguing that negotiators there are more willing to be more open about the negotiations, so far, the US has not allowed it. This has resulted in some crazy situations including secretive "reading rooms" where politicians are carefully guarded if they look at the current drafts -- and where they're not allowed to bring any device or copy anything from the documents.Now, Greenpeace has leaked a bunch of the TTIP documents... and also set up their own "reading room" which mocks the secrecy of the current reading rooms, by making it very, very transparent:
Krasse Aktion von Greenpeace. Haben nen transparenten #TTIP Leseraum vor der US Botschaft … https://t.co/CZC0myHq5t pic.twitter.com/N0Iv8eHNwc
— Sebastian Jabbusch (@SebJabbusch) May 2, 2016
In the discussion on the intellectual property agreement, it notes that at the latest negotiation, the US refused to put forth "concrete proposals" on issues such as DRM, but the report notes that these are being pushed strongly by "rights holders." The EU, apparently, is nervous about what kind of language it will eventually see from the US. The US, in response, apparently told the EU negotiators that this would be a different kind of intellectual property chapter from the TPP:
A positive feature of the twelfth round of IP discussions was the US submission, for the first time, of some texts on relatively consensual areas (international treaties and general provisions). However, the US remains unwilling to table, at this stage, concrete proposals on more sensitive offensive interests that have been expressed by some of its right holders or that are explicitly referred to in its TPA (for instance on patents, on technical protection measures and digital rights management or on enforcement).The report also notes that Congress' unwillingness to pass laws to stop patent trolls or in support of (awful) broadcast rights, public performance rights and resale rights, may be an issue, since all three are important to EU rightsholders. We've covered all three issues at various points in time, and all three involve basically expanding copyright law in dangerous ways that will further limit the public's rights. In this case, it looks like it's the EU that's pushing more strongly for them, which is too bad. The public performance rights have the most forward progress in the US right now, with the push to ratify the Beijing Treaty, but hopefully that's an area where legislative indifference kills a horrifically bad idea.
When confronted with the EU warning that bringing sensitive proposals that would require changes in EU law to the table – and doing it at a late stage of the negotiation – may have a negative impact on stakeholders and has very limited chances of being accepted, the US reiterated its understanding that the IPR chapter should not be a standard (TPP type) text, but also insisted that such a departure from its “model” creates some difficulties in terms of addressing the demands included in the IPR related sections of its TPA.
In short, it appears that there are a lot of competing interests on both sides of the Atlantic around the intellectual property chapter, but both sides appear to be focused almost entirely on the protectionist, anti-innovation, anti-public interests of specific rights holders and how to make them happy. There's basically no discussion of how all of this impacts the public.
That's not too surprising, but it also shows why they've worked so hard to keep these documents from being seen by the public. The TTIP agreement was already way behind the TPP agreement, and it's quite doubtful that a final agreement will be reached before the new US administration is in place, which could result in some pretty massive changes in terms of what the White House is demanding. But, as of right now, the agreement looks like yet another mess where lobbyists try to divvy up the spoils in taking things away from the public.
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How is it..
I'm not a conspiracy theorist but sometimes I wonder about things like this...
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How about the next time you serve as a juror? Do you plan on skipping out if you can, or will you stick around to make sure a fellow citizen is not getting fucked by this corruption you and most other Americans "CLAIM" to hate so much?
Have you walked down to your local city counsel and asked them if they plan to clean up corrupting in the local police force?
Do you keep voting in your representative because they get your district things like Jobs & other Government Bennies?
They justify this shit to the people every time they get voted back into office and every time we vote in a fucking party politician.
Because at the end of the Day... they BELONG TO THE PARTY!!! not your stupid ass!
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Money.
During the trial of Al Capone, Justice James Wilkerson learned that even he was on Al Capone's people-to-bribe list. In that moment, he realized how pervasive Capone's influence and corruption was, and when the court was resumed, had the bailiff swap juries with Judge Edwards down the hall. Indeed, Capone had bribed all twelve.
Anyone can be bought. Anyone.
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Re: Money.
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Re: Re: Money? No Need
No, we don't need evidence.
So, for your family, don't forget to take our phone calls.....
Oh, BTW, let us show you OUR film in Dallas on November 22, 1963"
Need an example? The prior Governor of Illinois came on the nightly TV news, standing with a group of 'laid off' factory workers; Bank Of America was holding their back pay.
The FBI brought the 'file' to his home at dawn the next morning.
See A Very British Coup (1988) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094576/
Not c'est moi? Ninety-seven percent of federal and ninety-four percent of state convictions are plea-bargains; see themarshallproject.org.
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"Socialism."
Basically, anything done by the government for the people is cast as "big government" or "socialism." When people hear that word, they drool on cue like Pavlov's dogs and move along because as far as they're concerned there is nothing to see here.
Hilariously, the VERY SAME drooling doggies who flip out at the word "Socialism" ALSO flip out about crony capitalism, as if it was actually true that merely withholding your hard-earned $$$ would make the companies involved think twice about what they were doing.
That whole culture wars thing you've got over there has people fooled into thinking that Dems are liberal and Reps are conservative, and they align themselves accordingly. Erm, it's not true. Many Dems have always been on the dark side, i.e. they're neoliberals or neocons. It was the Republicans that ended slavery, remember, so don't drool when the whistle blows because the dish ain't getting filled.
What I'm saying is, they don't need to justify what they're doing to THE people, but THEIR people, and you may find that it works just fine for them because they hate [$party].
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sunlight is the best disinfectant for corruption
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Re: sunlight is the best disinfectant for corruption
Free trades makes the citizens poorer and the rich folk richer. I am no longer amazed by the number of literal idiots running around saying that corruption needs to be fought while simultaneously being okay with or "supporting" the very things that create and promote that corruption!
Every time you hear about those poor kids in sweat shops for clothing and electronics, remember... that is a direct result of FREE TRADE!
If you support free trade, especially with nations still conducting SLAVERY then you are you saying you support that shit! Think again! Grow a Brain and realize this is NOT a global economy! Human trafficking, slavery, abusive employment, multiple wage gaps, or out right unfair labor standards is the de-facto world standard!
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Worried about demands in the TPA?
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This will sell hundreds of millions of people into slavery for their leaders to profit off of.
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TTIP - anti democratic
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American standards in Europe should be a huge no.
And 'Corporate Sovereignty'... I don't get it... How could such a thing ever get approved, except by corrupt and/or bought politicians? How could such a thing be a boon for any country signing up?
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We lazy Americans ...
Until we change ourselves first, our arguments about things like this are just noise.
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Talking from my reality, the political instability here in Brazil is being used to fuck up all sorts of rights and protections despite the fact that nature has given severe warnings that we are on course for our own demise. For all the water abundance we do have there have been major shortages all over with the episode in São Paulo metropolitan area being one of the worst. But hey, let's just ignore this, money speaks louder than millions of people suffering and possibly dying.
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We don't want anyone to die though, not if they can suffer and pay us instead!
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Treaties also work to get things done inside one's own country
This is a route that has been in use un the EU for a few decades now, and the telecom part of the TTIP seems to be not only aimed at the EU, but in my opinion more directly at the FTC. The (US) telcos already lost big last year when the FTC reclassified internet access as common carrier http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/02/fcc-votes-for-net-neutrality-a-ban-on-paid-fast-lanes-and-ti tle-ii/
So it is not very unusual to direct efforts at an international treaty where your nefarious conspiring will (hopefully) stay below the radar until it is too late, since consumer organizations are conspicuously absent from these negotiations.
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