Donald Trump On Intellectual Property: China Is Bad
from the huh? dept
As you may have heard, in an effort to refocus his Presidential campaign, this week, Donald Trump erased his original economic plan (literally, it just disappeared from his website) and launched a brand new plan with a speech in Detroit. The speech came across as a mishmash of semi-random ideas, pulled from whatever that crazy list of folks he's calling his advisors are these days. However, for the folks around here, what may be interesting is that this is really the first time I can recall Trump even mentioning intellectual property, and his entire summary of it is basically "China bad, we need more protection."At the center of my plan is trade enforcement with China. This alone could return millions of jobs into our country. They break the rules in every way imaginable. China engages in illegal export subsidies, prohibited currency manipulation, and rampant theft of intellectual property. They also have no real environmental or labor protections, further undercutting American workers. Just enforcing intellectual property rules alone could save millions of American jobs. According to the U.S. International Trade Commission, improved protection of America's intellectual property in China would produce more than 2 million more jobs right here in the United States. Add to that the saved jobs from cracking down on currency cheating and product dumping, and we will bring trillions of dollars in new wealth and wages back to the United States.These are kind of old and obsolete talking points. China has been ramping up its intellectual property enforcement over the past few years after many, many years of the US screaming about Chinese copycats. Except, as we've noted, our own government's shortsighted focus on "stopping IP theft in China" actually handed China a fantastic tool to enable on-the-sly protectionism against foreign companies. China has begun "respecting" intellectual property in the form of building up a massive patent portfolio and then suing foreign companies (mainly American) and winning.
The trade deals that the US has been negotiating historically won't help stop that. They'll only encourage more of it. Of course, it's doubtful that Trump really cares about or understands the policy implications of this. I doubt he cares at all about intellectual property. This was just a new speech for him to give in an effort to refocus the campaign from the non-stop ridiculous comments last week to try to sound more serious this week and to pretend there's an actual plan.
Of course, Hillary Clinton's intellectual property platform is a complete joke too, but it feels like War & Peace compared to what little Trump has said on the subject. And people wonder why our new t-shirt about the election is selling so well...
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Though I cannot help the suspicion that the latter course of action would do more for improving the quality of the comment section.
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Damn, I can't make these dots connect. You are going to have to explain.
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Dear Mr. Trump: Just build a wall around China
This will be the best wall ever. And believe me, I know my walls. Everyone will just love it. I will build you the best wall you've ever seen, trust me on this. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to walls. Classy beautiful walls. Make America Respected Again! This will make other countries take notice and respect America. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about.
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Die, evil trope! Die! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Wall_of_China#Visibility_from_space
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Make the playing field more level
Instead of pushing China into more IP laws. How about us having less?
And we could start with Copyright, which has many problems.
But the counter productive patent system should get some attention too.
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Corruption(government), ignorance(both), and irresponsibility(citizens) have set in like a cancer.
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Instead of pushing China into more IP laws. How about us having less?
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of I.P. lawyers suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
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Where did these trade deals come from and who currently supports them? Oh, why, someone named Clinton. Lets criticize Trump which supports Clinton who bring more of the same.
Hillary will continue Obama's legacy, she has said it, Obama has said it. We want TPP? We want less transparency in our government? We want reporters investigated, and those that talk to the media from within the government thrown in jail?
As for the walls, how about enforcing the laws we have on the books? In terms of immigration, we don't need new laws, we just need to enforce the laws that are already in place? When did it become OK to ignore laws? Oh, that is right, Hillary and Obama have no problem ignoring laws, like immigration laws, the Constitution and little things like that.
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It seems more than anything, that a vote for Trump is a vote against whatever Trump says it is against.
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So, you prefer the long lie over the short lie? Hillary has been at this bullshit game far more than Trump. So her bag of wind is a lot bigger. Or if you switch this all in the context of minefields which would you then prefer? The large or the smaller one?
We are quibbling over two piles of shit like one somehow stinks less than the other.
Trump is pro big business and so is Hillary, the difference? The difference is the path each are taking to shit on America! At least with Trump I will be able to speak to my fellow passengers in my language as we descend to hell!
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Chinese IP theft happens
This was for a very complex, heavily engineered machine. The Chinese DO cheat and they cheat badly.
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Winning the battle but losing the war
Instead what's happened is China started 'respecting' copyright/patents to the tune of lawsuits against any foreign competitors, using the system for their own gain at the cost of companies from elsewhere, and in such a manner that the US really doesn't have a foot to stand on and be taken seriously.
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Donald Trump translated
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I'd say that it's sad what this says about the state of humanity, but then the Republican Party nomination already makes a statement about that.
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Hillary hates black America and so does Obama. All you need to fool Black America is pay off a few NAACP thugs and every other Black American is supposed to fall in line like good little slaves. If you don't, then you get to be an Uncle Tom!
Judge a person by the fruits of their labors and not by the words coming out of their mouths. If you do that you will find more racism coming from the "Party" that "claims" to hate it most! Funny how that works! Of course all you need to do to fool a democrat is speak words promising bread crumbs from the Elite's burgeoning tables, you don't have to live up to shit!
You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make the bigot understand they are a bigot! And you damn sure cannot make a party sheeple see reason.
Hillary is a Rich White Person cut from the very cloth Black America claims to hate!
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You want to influence others? Perhaps some data, some analysis of said data ... oh screw it - just continue with your ill informed ranting.
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If that is not enough proof, then there never will be. So yea, go ahead and keep being an Ostrich. The dirt must be great where you live!
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And how does it compare to the state of things during the previous president? Or the one before that? If you're going to lay blame on a particular person you kinda have to point out what they've done to cause or influence the problem, you can't just say 'Things are bad during their term, therefor it's their fault' without making that connection.
Blame them for not doing enough to improve conditions by all means if things are bad, but if you're going to go so far as to claim that they hate a particular group you really need to show action and intent, rather than inaction and/or negligence/indifference.
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They do not actually help them, they just add to their ranks. This is a perfect example of being able to fool the fools. Keep promising and doing nothing, it's working great so far!
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I think you have overlooked the "help" rich folk get from our esteemed government. You want to stop what some call entitlements? Lets start with removal of all corporate subsidy, including their poverty wage policies which require government supplement paid by taxes of course.
You need to dig deeper into bullshit mountain.
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No one can know what a Trump admin will bring. But we already know what Hillary will bring because she has a track record to go on and plenty of words saying she will stay the Obama course which was the Bush course.
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Trump will have none of that. He will however allow the continued rape of this country's people and resources.
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Thanks Obummer
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Americans are so corrupt that we will keep a corrupt politician in office because the citizens are getting crumbs knocked off the table towards them.
The real problem is more about the fact that the corrupt bastards in Congress keep keeping their jobs. That is more of a problem than electing Hitler as President.
I know most of you idiots can see these things but that is why we are in this position to begin with.
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Ignorance is bliss.
(Ostrichs do not put their heads in the dirt when frightened)
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Mike Masnick you Fucking Shill.
Lets contrast these candidates platforms fairly in their own words on their own websites.
Here's Trumps published platform on China:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=trumps+platform+on+china&l=1#seen
Here's Hilliary's published platform which has some economic stuff in it but nothing specific on China or IP:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=+hillary+clinton%27s+platform&l=1#seen
The American Investor Class has, for the last 40+ years, used China to engage in wage arbitrage on the US Labor force. Specifically, they have pegged their currency to the US Dollar to ensure their per unit labor cost is always cheaper which drives US companies to their shores looking to expand, and when they come, there are continuous concessions aimed at taking the US companies for everything they've got and then some. China has effectively bribed the investor class into this arrangement and it has a substantial impact on honest American companies trying to play by the book because it forces them into the untenable position of either giving the Chinese the keys to the castle or dieing.
Short Case Study. Dell outsourced to Acer, HP outsourced to ASUS, and IBM Outsourced to Lenovo for their PC manufacturing business. Who owns those businesses lock stock and barrel and are now competing directly in the United States against the companies they used to supply with technology invented and refined here? You would figure in a perfectly functioning international patent system that those companies arm's wouldn't get twisted.
You want an intellectual-sounding soundbyte that doesn't sound like it was drummed up by the Sub-80 IQ Crowd, here it is: "Trump Lays out economic plan to level the playing field with China, Investor class on both sides of the Pacific freak out". There's the truth.
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...What? A guy can dream.
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Build a wall? Ummm, we already have a fence, and what is wrong with wanting to enforce the laws we already have on the books? If you want immigration, then change the law.
Not let Muslims in? Stupid statement, but not letting in a bunch of people from countries that don't like us and not being able to verify who would actually come in is just common sense. Look at Germany, France and Belgium.
Abandon NATO partners if invaded by Russia is a stupid comment, but getting other countries to actually pay for the defense of their country actually makes sense. Should we allow other countries to spend very little on their military and expect us to bail them out?
Trade agreements? I doubt many here support TPP.
Does anyone believe Hillary will be tough on banks? Wall Street wasn't giving her all that money because she is their enemy.
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Easily.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" has never actually been true.
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IP in China is a joke
Ramping up. What a joke. Everyone I know who has tried getting a patent in China says it's a complete waste of time and money.
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