Math Is Not A Crime
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Our latest Techdirt t-shirt is the Math Is Not A Crime shirt (also available as women's tees, hoodies, v-necks, mugs and stickers), which was initially inspired by some of the debates around outlawing strong encryption -- but also refers to much, much more. One of the key points that defenders of strong encryption have been making in response to attempts to outlaw strong encryption or to demand backdoors is that encryption is just math, and it should never be a crime to do math. But the message actually goes beyond that. It's pointing out that since it is just math, someone else can do the math too and create their own encryption. One of the key legal fights around encryption, Bernstein v. United States, basically centered around the question of whether or not the government could declare a mathematical encryption algorithm a "munition" in order to block its export. Eventually it was determined that source code (and with it, math) are protected by the First Amendment.But it's not just about encryption. The issue of outlawing math has come up in other contexts that we talk about as well. For example, the patenting of software is one example that has raised concerns about outlawing math. Algorithms are basically just mathematical formulas and not being able to write an algorithm because someone has patented some of it seems particularly stupid. Over a decade ago, Ben Klemens wrote a great book called Math You Can't Use.
And, of course, this enters the copyright realm as well. We're constantly talking about DRM, and a key bit of law that props up bogus DRM systems is Section 1201 of the DMCA, which outlaws any circumvention of DRM. But, many of those circumventions are little more than math as well.
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A digital file is just a string of bits.
If we're serious that "math is not a crime", there should be no forbidden bit strings.
I'm OK with that. Creating child porn should be illegal. Exploiting children should be illegal. Bit strings - in and of themselves - should not.
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And - a string of bits is not math.
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Its value may have been determined via math, but that does not make it anything other than a number.
Math -
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(used with a singular verb) the systematic treatment of magnitude, relationships between figures and forms, and relations between quantities expressed symbolically.
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(used with a singular or plural verb) mathematical procedures, operations, or properties.
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Math is the manipulation of numbers.
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Pretty sure it IS a crime...
Rather than denying that reality, shouldn't we be highlighting it so we can change it?
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For example, in California it is illegal to conceal evidence of a crime.
A physical analogy would be lock picks. In most places in the US it's perfectly legal to own lock picks unless you intend to commit a crime with them. Then they are illegal.
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And I think that is the debate - right? Many disagree with you.
Also, bad analogy, lock picks are not math.
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At least, I *thought* I was joking.
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Very much like gravity is sometimes a crime,
or maybe it's solar radiation that is a crime.
How about - cell division is a crime? Damn pirates!
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It amazes me why teachers in North America (but yea, beyond NA!) aren't CERTIFIED in Applied and Theoretical Teaching (what the Teacher should be about!... and regardless of the subjects being taught!), and CERTIFIED in Applied and Theoretical Learning (what the Student is about!... and regardless of the subjects being taught!)!
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In other words... WHY ARE THESE FOUR B-A-S-I-C P-I-L-L-A-R-S ABSENT FROM THE QUIVERS OF OUR FACULTIES OF EDUCATION?... AND THUS, FROM THE MINDSETS OF THE VICTIMS OF OUR FACULTIES OF EDUCATION (I.E., OUR PEDAGOGIES!)? But!... beyond these four basic pillars!... WHY IS INTRApersonal AND INTERpersonal INTELLIGENCE (the three "I_s"!... or, the Behavioral Sciences!) NOT DEEMED MORE ESSENTIAL IN THE CLASSROOM, THAN MATHEMATICS (INDEED!... T-H-A-N A-N-Y A-N-D A-L-L O-T-H-E-R S-U-B-J-E-C-T-S B-E-I-N-G T-A-U-G-H-T!-- P-E-R-I-O-D!)?
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Our Faculties of Education are failing to properly equip our teachers!... and, which explains why many teachers are-- in turn!-- failing to properly equip our students!
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It's a crime.
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Math IS A Crime!!!
I dont know about you, but Ive had ENOUGH of these DIABOLOLICAL SADISTS!! BAN MATH NOW!!!!!!
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THE ETHOS BEHIND THE NUMBERS: THE NUMBERS BEHIND THE ETHOS
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It's about CONTEXT!
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A match may be used to light gas stove!... or!... it can be used to burn down a city! The math of the mechanics of the action of the striking of the match against an "igniting surface" may be comparable!... and, that of the subsequent human actions (i.e., mechanics!) used to light a gas stove, or, to burn down a city!... but, the mathematics of the state of the cognitive psychophysiology of the mind of the person that has formed the "intention"/ "will" in the two respective linear actions, are not!
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Therefore, REDUCING THE CONTEXT!... THE COMPLEXITY!... OF THE "S-U-M E-Q-U-A-T-I-O-N" OF A MECHANICAL EVENT, TO P-R-E-D-E-T-E-R-M-I-N-E-D INDIVIDUAL/ LINEAR SETS OF NUMBERS WITH WHICH IT IS COMPOSED, I-S T-O N-E-G-A-T-E T-H-E I-N-H-E-R-E-N-T D-A-N-G-E-R (O-R B-E-N-E-F-I-T-!) I-N T-H-E "L-A-R-G-E-R E-Q-U-A-T-I-O-N" T-H-A-T T-H-E I-N-D-I-V-I-D-U-A-L C-O-M-P-O-N-E-N-T-S/ N-U-M-B-E-R-S R-E-P-R-E-S-E-N-T!
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Humans may be said to have a similar gene structure... and thus, similar "underlying math"!... to numerous different species (e.g., to mice!)! But!... we are not to be made synonymous with these species, by virtue of these similarities!
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We!... humans!... have tagged numbers to ethos!... and meaning! And not because the numbers themselves have ethos and meaning!... but, because we/ humans desire to Q-U-A-N-T-I-F-Y "T-H-E Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y" O-F H-U-M-A-N B-E-H-A-V-I-O-R!
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And why not? ALL SUBJECTS/ TOPICS ARE "UP FOR GRABS" BY HUMANITY!... AND SO, T-H-E M-E-C-H-A-N-I-C-S O-F T-H-E "Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y" O-F H-U-M-A-N B-E-H-A-V-I-O-R C-A-N-- A-N-D S-H-O-U-L-D!-- B-E S-U-B-J-E-C-T T-O T-H-E S-A-M-E R-I-G-O-U-R-S O-F M-A-T-H-E-M-A-T-I-C-S!
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And!... just like a soul is more than just the sum of its mechanical parts, a soul is more than just the sum of its linear numbers! W-E... A-R-E C-O-N-T-E-X-T!
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I mean, "Thinking as a Second Language" makes no sense, but it does sound like haphazard late 1900's rap lyrics.
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And so!... to avoid the "mathematics of people (i.e., the 'mathematics of human intention'!)" who-- in turn!-- apply mathematics to their "environments", is like failing to account for the magnetic pull of the sun, in the assessment of how the magnetic interplay between planets within our solar system, actually works!
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... care to explain this in more detail? Inquiring minds want to know.
Or how about the "mathematics of human intention", this sounds like a hoot. Please provide details.
"magnetic interplay between planets within our solar system, actually works"
This too, could be quite educational to learn about this.
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NON-EVIL PEOPLE NEED ACCESS A-N-D PRIVACY!... AND EVIL PEOPLE SHOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS O-R PRIVACY! BUT, IF YOU DENY THE WRONG PEOPLE (I.E., NON-EVIL PEOPLE!), AND ALLOW THE WRONG PEOPLE (I.E., EVIL PEOPLE!), Y-O-U H-A-R-M S-E-C-U-R-I-T-Y (AND IN THE CASE OF NON-EVIL PEOPLE, DENIALS WILL ADVERSELY IMPACT ON MANY OTHER DIGITAL... A-N-D H-U-M-A-N!... RIGHTS! AND!... IN ADDITION, TO ACCESS!)! AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHICH IS WHICH (I.E., WHO'S EVIL, AND WHO'S NOT!)... WELL!... ONE SHOULD D*MN WELL FIGURE IT OUT!
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And so... it would appear, that many "Security Professionals"-- AND "LAY COMMENTERS"!-- are woefully stupid/ ignorant of the power that the "Uncertainty Principle" in Quantum Mechanics (AND!... OF THE "QUANTUM MECHANICS OF HUMAN INTENTION"!) has (AND CAN HAVE!)!... on ICT software and hardware! AND!... IF THIS PRINCIPLE-- AND POWER OF HUMAN INTENTION!-- WAS ADDRESSED, SUCH COULD SOLVE THE "EVIL PRIVACY VS ACCESS CONUNDRUM" OVERNIGHT!*
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If you have ever tried to "reconnect" a broken bar magent, you might then appreciate the subtlety of the "Uncertainty Principle" in Quantum Mechanics! And!... and believe it, or not!... human intention (AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL!), is exactly like a broken bar magnet!... and a "reveal", AS TO HOW SECURITY AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL CAN BE ACHIEVED!
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Simply put!... and again!... believe it, or not!... a soul of evil intent is like one broken piece of the bar magnet (AT THE QUANTUM LEVEL!), and a soul of sound intent is like the remaining broken piece!... AND NEITHER PIECE WILL BE COMPATIBLE!
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The souls of evil intention (EVIL QUANTUM FIELD FLUX!) are desparately trying to "INFLUENCE (GAIN 'QUANTUM MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX CONTROL'!)" over "ACCESS AND PRIVACY (I.E., OVER 'DENIED AND IMPACTFUL' QUANTUM MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX!)" of those of good intention, while those of good intention (GOOD QUANTUM FIELD FLUX!) are "matter of factly" successfully "INFLUENCING (GAINING 'QUANTUM MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX CONTROL'!)" over "ACCESS AND PRIVACY (I.E., OVER 'DENIED AND IMPACTFUL' FIELD FLUX!)" of those of evil intention!
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And, inasmuch!... as the power of those of evil intention can never achieve CORRECT QUANTUM MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX INTEGRITY!... AND THERBY, QUANTUM MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX CONTROL (although!... at times!... it may appear to those of "little faith" that those of evil intent have achieved QUANTUM MAGNETIC FIELD FLUX INTEGRITY!)!
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AND KNOW THIS!... IT WAS C-O-N-S-C-I-E-N-C-E THAT F-I-R-S-T GAVE RISE TO THE REALIZATION OF THE POWER OF NUMBERS (AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!)!... AND WHICH-- IN TURN!-- T-H-E-N GAVE RISE TO THE POWER OF MATHEMATICS! A-N-D!... IT IS C-O-N-S-C-I-E-N-C-E A-L-O-N-E THAT WILL CONTINUE TO RULE THE INHERENT POWER OF NUMBERS AND MATHEMATICS!... AND!... INASMUCH, AS NUMBERS AND MATHEMATICS IN A MIND DEVOID OF THE POWER OF "E-F-F-E-C-T-E-D C-O-N-S-C-I-E-N-C-E", CAN NEVER ACHIEVE ULTIMATE NUMERIC AND MATHEMATIC INTEGRITY!... AND THEREBY, ULTIMATE NUMERIC AND MATHEMATIC CONTROL!
In other words, the Global Security Community has got to begin to incorporate "INTENTION DEVICE TECHNOMA (I.E., 'UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE TRIPWIRE TECHNOMA'!)" within Hardware, if it desires a solution to the "PRIVACY VS ACCESS" issue!
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To sum up... and a suggestion!... what is needed is a Global Conference on the Application of the "Uncertainty Principle" in Quantum Mechanics-- and, of the power of the quantum mechanics of human intention!-- to Cyber Security!... and!... ON THE IMPLICATIONS OF MANDATING THE INCORPORATION of "INTENTION DEVICES" TO WITHIN PCs, AND TO WITHIN THE "THINGS" THAT WILL COMPOSE/ COMPRISE THE PENDING UBIQUITOUS "INTERNET OF THINGS"!
*see, http://www.spiritofmaat.com/archive/mar2/tiller.htm... and, http://www.shiftfrequency.com/sub-quantum-reality/... and, http://in5d.com/10-scientific-studies-that-prove-consciousness-can-alter-our-physical-material-world /
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Regardless of the exactitude of mathematics, mathematics without the dimension of human ethos, is meaningless!... i.e., the ethos that humans bring-- or fail to bring!-- to the "formulations" we apply to objects and to processes! And when it comes to applying "formulations" to "organic objects", and-- in particular!-- "organic processes (and most notably, 'organic processes' which are pegged to, or associated with the exercise of human FREE WILL!... AND OTHER 'PROTANTHROPETHOSIC/ PROTETHOSIC INTRAPERSONAL AND INTERPERSONAL BEHAVIORAL PRINCIPLES'!)", "formulations" which fail to take into account (YEA, UNDERMINE!) "PROTANTHROPETHOSIC PRINCIPLES"/ "PROTETHOSIC PRINCIPLES" should be either "reformulated" until they do, or tagged as "ANANTHROPETHOSIC (i.e., 'pertaining to that which is without human ethos'!)"/ "ANETHOSIC (i.e., 'pertaining to that which is without ethos'!)"!
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And!... "ANANTHROPETHOSY ('that which is without human ethos'!)"/ "ANETHOSY ('that which is without ethos"!)", being-- potentially!-- the greatest "ANTHROPOPATHY ('human pathy'!)" of ALL of the pathic "contagions" people may encounter, or exhibit! And inasmuch... and simply put!... as "IDIOAITIAIOTHELEMAPATHY"/ "AUTAITIAIOTHELEMAPATHY (i.e., 'personally caused volitional pathy'!... see, ἴδιος/ αὐτός, αἰτίαi, θέλημα/ βούληση/ θέληση/ thélisi/ voúli̱si, πάθος)"!... and especially, a will that is the result of PERSONAL COGNITIVE NEGLECT (in contrast, to a will that is the result of an "EXAITIAIOTHELEMAPATHY"!... i.e., EXTERNALLY CAUSED VOLITIONAL PATHY!)!... can have the most detrimental impact on the will of others!
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It's akin to what "zealots" do, when these read scriptures OUT OF CONTEXT! Reading "linear number sets" OUT OF CONTEXT is no different!
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What Would Jesus Program?
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So... what would Jesus Program? Well!... through Kurt Gödel (a Christian!), this:...
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Two scientists have formalized a theorem regarding the existence of God, originally penned by the mathematician, Kurt Gödel. And as a result of their efforts, their formalization will now enable computers to make scientific progress, easier.
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Analyzing a theorem from the late Austrian mathematician with a Macbook, has proven that God exists!-- say, the two scientists, Christoph Benzmuller of Berlin's Free University, and his colleague, Bruno Woltzenlogel Paleo, of the Technical University in Vienna.
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Gödel's Theorem is based on MODAL LOGIC, a type of formal logic, that-- narrowly defined!-- involves the use of the expressions, "necessarily", and "possibly (according, to Stanford University!)".
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The Theorem, proposes that God-- OR A SUPREME BEING!-- is that, for which, no greater can be conceived. God exists in the understanding. If God exists in the understanding, we could imagine such to be yet greater than our understanding-- beyond which, no greater can be conceived!-- by existing, IN REALITY! Thus, God must exist!
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Paleo and Benzmuller say that they have proven that the Theorem is correct!-- at least, on a mathermatical level!
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In their initial submission on a research server, "Formalization, Mechanization and Automation of Gödel's Proof of God's Existence", the researchers say, that: "Godel's ontological proof has been analyzed for the first time with an unprecedented degree of detail, and formality, with the help of higher-order theorem provers."
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They add: "The following has been done (in the ensuing order): a detailed natural deduction proof; a formalization of the axioms, definitions and theorems in the TPTP THF syntax; automatic verification of the consistency of the axioms and definitions with Nitpick; automatic demonstration of the theorems with the provers, LEO-II and Satallax; a step-by-step formalization using the Coq proof assistant; a formalization using the Isabelle proof assistant, where the theorems (and some additional lemmata) have been automated with Sledgehammer and Metis".
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In his talks with a representative of the German weekly mag Der Spiegel, Benzmuller states that it's fascinating how the Theorem could be anaylzed through mathematics. Saying: "It's totally amazing that from this argument led by Gödel, all this stuff can be proven automatically in a few seconds-- or even less!-- on a standard notebook computer."
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To sum, one important further leap forward, would be to prove that God-- this Supreme Being!-- delivered the person of Jesus Christ to mankind, in order to bring mankind into direct fellowship with Him!... and, His domain! Enjoy!
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PROGRAMMING, MATH, AND HUMAN CONTEXT
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The questions to be asked, are:... What is the H-U-M-A-N C-O-N-T-E-X-T within which the math is being used (i.e., the ETHOS tied to the program and it's math!)!... and!... What is the MATHEMATICAL RIGOUR we're employing/ invoking, to "QUANTIFY" the "QUALITY" of the "CONTEXT" we've arrived at! If one denies the Human Right to "QUANTIFY" the "QUALITY" of "HUMAN CONTEXT" re a program and its attendant mathematics... OR-- INDEED!-- denies that a "HUMAN CONTEXT" should even be entertained!... T-H-E-N W-E-'-R-E D-E-N-Y-I-N-G O-U-R R-I-G-H-T T-O I-N-V-O-K-E A "S-C-I-E-N-C-E O-F M-A-T-H-E-M-A-T-I-C E-T-H-O-S" A-S A P-R-E-R-E-Q-U-I-S-I-T-E C-O-R-O-L-L-A-R-Y T-O O-U-R P-R-O-G-R-A-M-M-I-N-G A-N-D N-U-M-B-E-R-S! And!... explains how the Volkswagen Emission Scandal occurred!
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If one is lost in a narrow swamp of linear thinking (deliberately!... never letting the left hand know what the right hand is doing!... and thereby, allowing for "plausible deniability!), we're allowing the ETHOIC CONTEXT to escape us, in exchange for the "comfort" of willful and/ or subconscious/ subconscience subterfuge! In other words!... had the CONTEXT of the programming (and its math!) been apparent (i.e., to the right people!... AND BY LAW!) these chumps at Volkswagen could never have gotten away with what they got away with, AT THE OUTSET!
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However!... the Greek word "arithmós", in Latin, translates to "number"! But!... Arithmos-- in and of itself!-- doesn't convey the science, or the process, associated with the manipulation of numbers (let alone, the acknowledgement of the symbols to be found within "Mathematics"!... i.e., the "Operators" that the TECHNE of "Mathematics" uses!)!
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Now... although the "science of numbers" could be written as "Mathemarithmós", the PROCESS-- as such-- is yet missing from this expression! But!... when the Greek suffix "-sis" is added (referring to the "condition, state, or process of something"!) Mathemarithmós can be transformed!... and to,
"Mathemarithmósis", and its adjective, "Mathemarithmotic"!
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To conclude... although Mathemarithmósis comes closer to the TECHNE more able to eclipse Mathematics, it is still short of its potential "epistemologic transcendence"!... i.e., the "morphemic affix" that will capture the absolute "epistemologic nuance"-- yea, "apex"!-- of all that is the fullness, of the successor to "Mathematics"!
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And so... I give you, "Dia_meta_mathem_arith_mósis (i.e., the, 'Utter_meta_science_of_numeric_process'!)"!... or!... "Dia_mathem_arith_mósis (i.e., the, 'Utter_science_of_numeric_process'!)"!
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P.S.: The Latin-based "PAX-ROMANA IMPOSED (through the scribes of Latium!)" suffixal morphemic element "-al (for 'pertaining to'!)", is an unnecessary, redundant adjectival morphemic element and addition to the abridged Greek suffixal morphemic element "-ic", for "pertaining to (from 'IK-OS'... the omitted '-os', referring to that which is 'characteristic of', and 'abounding in'!)"! And thus, the Latin suffix "-al", should not succeed the suffixal element, "-ic (SAVE, WHEREIN, '-IC' IS A PROVEN LATIN-BASED SUFFIXAL ELEMENT!)"!... AND, SURELY, NOT FOR WORDS HAVING WHOLLY "GREEK" MORPHEMIC ELEMENTS (I.E., ROOTS, STEMS, INFIXES, AND PREFIXES!)! And inasmuch, as there is no need to borrow from Latin, what is abundantly available from within the ancient Greek Language!... let alone, from more contemporary versions of the ancient Greek Language! Simply put, Latin is not the basis of the English Language!... Greek is! Latin, instead, is more the BASTARDIZATION of the ancient and contemporary Greek Languages!... and a continued ASSAULT on the rise of the "English Language"! And hence the critique, on the aforenoted Latin suffixal element, "-al"!
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Frankly!... the ROMANS were "pushy"!... and desired to subvert/ subjugate the Greek culture!... in addition to physic_ly destroying its people! *ssholes!
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