Court Orders Small Ohio Speed Trap Town To Refund $3 Million In Unconstitutional Speeding Tickets
from the brace-for-a-revenue-drought dept
The state of Ohio has had its problems with speed cameras. Back in 2010, the city of New Garfield refunded $100,000 in fines collected in violation of its speed camera policy. The city told the public that drivers would only be ticketed for driving more than eleven mph over the speed limit [... which makes one question the purpose of its speed limits]. Plenty of drivers got dinged for exceeding the speed limit by less than the arbitrary cutoff, resulting in the mass refund.
Not that this will necessarily keep anyone from being ticketed, speeding or not. In the same year, an Ohio court ruled that an officer's guesstimate of someone's speed is just as reliable as radar or speed cameras when it comes to testimony. Given how many speed cameras have ticketed parked cars and brick walls, this is somewhat of a "close case" when it comes to testimonial accuracy.
The Newspaper -- which stays on top of every speed/traffic cam-related development [note: they really HATE traffic cams in France…] -- reports that New Miami, Ohio, is being forced to hand back every cent of its speed camera take as the result of a court decision.
New Miami, Ohio broke the law, it was caught, and now it will have to repay $3,066,523 worth of tickets. That was the judgment rendered Wednesday by Butler County Court of Common Pleas Judge Michael A. Oster Jr.
"If the government has created an unconstitutional law/ordinance that has taken people's money without affording them the necessary due process protections, should not justice demand, and the law require, restitution of that money to the people?" Oster asked at the opening of his ruling. "Once the complexities of the law are analyzed, the answer is simple: Yes."
As the court sees it, the system set up by the town eliminates a crucial Constitutional right. It's very likely the town knew its actions were unconstitutional, but it probably never assumed it would have to refund $3 million in ill-gotten revenue.
New Miami, Ohio, is more speed trap than town, as the court order [PDF] explains:
The Village of New Miami is in St. Clair Township located just north of the city of Hamilton. New Miami is less than one square mile in size (.95 square miles) and has a population of 2,249 people based on the 2010 United States Census Bureau. US. 127, a major north-south highway, runs through the Village and is the primary location where the speed cameras were located.
Despite its blink-and-you'll-miss-it size, the village still issued an incredible amount of tickets, thanks in part to its freebie contract with camera provider Blue Line Solutions (BLS). The contract it signed required the cameras (of which there were at least two) to be in operation for a minimum of 100 hours a month. This isn't unmanned time, as the camera system requires an officer to pull a trigger and capture an image of the speeding driver to send to the processing company that issues the tickets.
BLS gave the town the cameras for free, under the assumption the investment would pay off with operating times of 100 hours per month minimum per camera.
After review by a Village of New Miami police supervisor, the ticket is mailed to the registered owner and a fine of $95 is included.
The village and Blue Line Solutions, LLC split each $95 fine with one another. The village keeps 65 percent of the $95 fine while the private camera company keeps 35 percent.
The speed cameras as free for the village, provided to the village by the private contractor under the five year deal.
To ensure the revenue flow wasn't disrupted by angry drivers and/or insurance companies, the town rewrote its statutes to cut both the criminal justice system and insurance companies out of the equation.
Village of New Miami records show the small Butler County village created its own speeding law in 1991, allowing the village to charge speeding violations under a civil ordinance instead of under the state’s uniform traffic statute.
Under the village ordinance, drivers caught speeding in New Miami would not be subjected to the state’s point system, which would suspend a driver who accrued 12 point violations in a two year period. As a result, insurance companies would not know the conduct of the drivers they cover.
None of that matters now that the court has found the village's system unconstitutional and the town responsible for paying back members of this class action lawsuit. And this $3 million will all be coming from New Miami. The camera manufacturer has no liability if the cameras are deployed unlawfully. That's all on the municipality, which will probably have to screw its own residents to issue refunds on the hundreds of bogus tickets as the money it's unlawfully collected over the years hasn't just been sitting around collecting interest.
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RLC
I do know that in Ohio that at least RLCs are basically illegal. They passed a law that in essence said that people have the "right to face your accuser". AKA if a camera "pops" you that an officer has to be present to actually hand them the ticket.
Well obviously that kinda defeated the entire purpose of the automated systems.
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Much like if I broke into a store at night and stole a bunch of stuff, the fact that a police officer used security camera footage to identify and eventually arrest me does not implicate my fourth amendment rights.
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If you are accused of a crime, and the evidence against you is a self-identified eyewitness, the right to face your accuser should provide that the eyewitness come to court, swear to tell the truth, swear that he/she saw you commit the crime, and that you be given the chance to convince the jury that this eyewitness is wrong (whether maliciously or accidentally).
When the evidence against you is a digital recording, your recourse is to try to convince the jury that the recording is (a) fake or (b) does not demonstrate (to the standard required by law) that the defendant is the person shown on the recording. In the context of traffic law, facing one's accuser ought to include some evidence that the defendant was personally operating the ticketed vehicle. Many jurisdictions that operate red light cameras adopt the improper standard that they can cite a vehicle and its owner is legally liable for the offense, regardless of whether the owner was even in the vehicle at the time.
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* Footage of me running a red light.
* Footage of me robbing the cash register after closing.
The improper standard situation seems more like a burden of proof problem, not a problem of me not being able to face my accuser. I'd have the opportunity to face my accuser (the law enforcement officer who reviewed the tape), they just might be unable to prove that it was me in the car.
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That there may be footage of someone that looks like you robbing a store, but that it was not you.
Maybe it wasn't you.
To hold that you can't face your accuser is to say that an accusation is proof of guilt.
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I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to face your accuser; I'm saying that the accuser is the police officer, who is testifying using the camera footage as evidence.
You absolutely should be able to argue that the camera is deficient or improperly maintained, or that the state has not met the burden of proving that the person on camera is you. Neither of those things has anything to do with your right to face your accuser, however.
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When a video surfaces of an officer doing what they're not supposed to be doing, it's almost immediate that a union rep will be on camera stating "the footage doesn't tell the whole story." (even if it clearly does).
If that kind of canned response is alright for them, then I say it doesn't matter what the hell is on the camera - there's some kind of mitigating circumstances that aren't being shown on the video.
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Hence "right to face accuser" part comes in. Driving citations are supposed to go to the person whom is actually driving the vehicle at the time of the infraction, not just who the car belongs to.
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If a police officer watches footage of a robbery, and they surmise that the masked individual on camera is me, and they arrest me, it is absolutely valid for me to argue in court that the individual on camera is not actually me, and/or that the police have not met their burden of proof.
It would be weird, however, for me to argue that the use of a camera somehow violates my right to face my accuser.
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What constitutional right? You don't have any... if you don't believe me go and exercise them and see how far they go.
If you want any legal protections, you need to BUY IT or convince someone like the ACLU to buy them for you!
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This is what they want you to do, argue amongst yourselves while they make off with the loot.
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I will now bow out of this grudge match! Sorry for being a spoil sport folks!
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The final price is never paid, a new tyranny will always attempt to instate itself in new and fertile grounds or upon the ashes of a former tyranny.
Perhaps now you see the conundrum and the success of the police state? The moment exercising your rights became part of the problem, as it is now, we lost the fight for liberty.
The war however, is never over!
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No need to screw the residents
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I've lived in a few states, but I'd have to say that Ohio probably has higher proportion of towns that exist solely to be speedtraps than most states.
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The Math
So the town is on the hook for the 35% they paid BLS. That works out to $477.23 per inhabitant. That's 5 speeding tickets per person.
Sadly, the politicians who implemented this anti-tourism tax probably won't be held accountable.
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Nonsense, they might not be re-elected in the tiny, tiny town! Really, what more punishment could they possibly face, anything more than that would be just uncalled for! /s
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It was all well and good for the founding fathers believe the court system could keep things in check, but the reality is, with no legal way of enforcing its verdicts upon *government* officials, they can get away with anything they want to, including wholesale theft and attempted genocide (and historically have done so).
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I agree in principle. In practice this is very hard to get right and would essentially discourage anyone from serving in government at all. But we should move closer to your suggested end of the spectrum, for sure.
Perhaps less extreme than that, I propose that there be some notion of impeachment for incompetence. That is, you're not jailed or fined, but if you demonstrate that you're incompetent at being a government official, then you should not be a government official. You should lose your job. That's also hard to define and easy to abuse, but doesn't have quite the deterrent effect for public service as jail or fines would have.
What we kind of already have, but not really, is the notion of failure to be reelected due to incompetence. Voters should hold their elected officials accountable for incompetence. That hardly happens though, due to myriad failings of our electoral systems.
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Found the shill.
Citizens are not allowed to claim ignorance of the law as an excuse for breaking one, yet you are okay with the nebulous idea that law enforcement, i.e. people involved with enforcing it, should not be held to the same standard that they hold citizens to at the literal end of a fucking barrel of a gun?
With dumb-ass fucking people like you, who need enemies?
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Laws that made it easy to target politicians would be abused by others in power. It's not that hard to come up with trumped up charges. Speaking of Trump, he'd be abusing said laws right now...
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I have no sympathy for the poor citizens who will have to cough up the money to pay the town's victims back. Screw them, they were happy to share the profits from this scam, now they will share the pain.
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Rather it was probably a closed door meeting where under the table dealing was preformed, how exactly was this supposed to be known to the voters prior to them having voted for these crooks to begin with?
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The good ole boy sheriffs who would pull over city slickers and shake them down, until they pissed of the right person.
We don't need to manage our budget, we have this plan where we're gonna scoop up all sorts of cash from people who, even if they wanted to, can't come back to fight it.
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I think the saying is:
those who do not learn HISTORY are doomed to repeat it.
(Usually repeated during summer school.)
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"So about that three million you need to pay back..."
"After a careful examination of our books, it seems that the two million you claim that we need to refund will likely take a bit to collect."
"Two million?"
"Indeed, the one and a half million refund will take a bit of time, spaced out to avoid unduly burdening the town."
"Wait, what?"
"But have no fear, we will most certainly repay the half a million in tickets, it will just take a bit of time. Completely unrelated, but how long do you have to oversee this case? Just out of curiosity."
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Those out-of-town drivers are SO gonna pay for what they've cost the town.
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3 million......and the rest
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They'll say something like
-We couldn't find any address of the people to hand over the refunds. Every drivers license was fake.
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Necessary, but insufficient, restitution
In the interest of making proper restitution, I propose that the town's public property be audited and, if any of it cannot be proved to have been purchased with clean money, that property shall be presumed to derive from the town's unjust enrichment and therefore shall be forfeited and auctioned off to raise the proceeds necessary to fully repay, with all due interest, the rightful owners. To be fair to the town and its residents, the town has 14 days, starting from the date of this post, to prepare all its records and present them to a court of competent jurisdiction. Scheduling of court appearances will be handled by a clerk in a locked room guarded by a leopard. Bring a torch.
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Want to make a million$?
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If you want to make milliion$, become a speed camera vendor and approach a mayor gullible enough to pay you 35 percent of the scam.
It is the TOWN not the speed camera company that has to pay restitution. Speed camera company is off the hook. Probably looking for the next sucker.
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Uncollectible debt?
The funds were spent a long time ago. The company isn't going to disgorge their share, and will probably be first in line as a creditor.
And throughout the attitude will be that it was the drivers breaking the law, and the town is being picked on by the judge.
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We're being treated so UNFAIR by a so called judge.
Hey judge, we'll see you in court!
Trust me! I promise!
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One of the first things to do...
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then i'd have my cops posted to watch for outsiders keeping up with the locals, thinking that it was safe to drive those speeds.
mmmm...mmm. money, sweet money. the crooked state where i live will likely do something like that one of these days. especially since their tax-by-the-mile program is emitting whoopee-cushion sounds.
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That's brilliant.
Race to patent it first! ;)
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They really hate speed cameras in .. the UK
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2003/sep/07/transpo rt.ukcrime
http://www.redditmirror.cc/cache/websites/www.speedcam.co.uk_adyvb/www.speedcam.co.uk/gats o2.htm
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