Anti-Piracy Copyright Lawyer Decides To Abuse Trademarks To Shut Down Pirates

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Update: This article was updated to remove a paragraph regarding events of a few years ago that was not central to the story here, and for which we have since learned there were additional details that have only now been shared with us.

One of the most consistent aspects of lawyers who crusade against copyright infringement is just how inconsistent their views on "the law" are. Copyright trolls regularly skirt the law while claiming to fight for justice for copyright holders. Hell, some trolls, that would have you believe they are bullwarks against piracy, have been found out to have essentially committed and encouraged the very piracy they sued over themselves.

The point is that it's all a panoply of monied interests and shifting levels of ethics perfectly calibrated to let the copyright lawyer do as he or she pleases on any given day. You can see this in practice yet again, with Kerry Culpepper, Hawaiian IP attorney, deciding to register a bunch of trademarks for piracy related terms and then going around and shutting down accounts for "pirate" services on social media sites.

Through the recently incorporate Hawaiian company 42 Ventures, he helped to register several piracy-related trademarks. The current trademark portfolio of the company includes the popular brands “YTS,” “Popcorn Time,” and “Terrarium.” In addition, 42 Ventures also claimed the trademark for the Showbox arrow logo. All trademarks are registered under the same description, “downloadable computer software for downloading and streaming multimedia content images, videos and audio.” The same description also applies to the pirate sites and apps.

The trademarks were only recently registered which brings up the issue of prior use. Popcorn Time, Terrarium, and YTS have been using their brands for years, and could technically object to any enforcement efforts. 42 Ventures, however, stresses that it has its own legal “Popcorn Time” website at Popcorntime4u.com, which links to content from the YouTube channel Popcorned Planet.

And from there, we find that 42 Ventures has partnered with Andy Signore, who is behind Honest Trailers, among other things. The idea I suppose is to try to claim that 42 Ventures is suddenly and recently using these marks in commerce, the only way it would have a valid trademark. That, however, is bullshit. The terms and actual content creators were already long using those marks, as were the holders of the social media accounts 42 Ventures is busy taking down. In other words, Culpepper appears to be perfectly willing to abuse trademark law in his efforts to enforce copyright law. That isn't exactly a consistent respect for intellectual property now, is it?

Because consistent and ethical application of the law is entirely besides the point. There's no respect for intellectual property in any of this. Only a way to milk dollars in the name of the law.

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Filed Under: copyright, copyright trolls, kerry culpepper, popcorn time, showbox, terrarium, trademark, trademark abuse, use in commerce, yts


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    That Anonymous Coward (profile), 8 Apr 2020 @ 11:18pm

    Whats that non-trademarked phrase again...

    Oh yes...

    CHRIST WHAT AN ASSHOLE.

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    Peter (profile), 8 Apr 2020 @ 11:51pm

    Abuse of trademark law, maybe

    But could it work?

    It looks like yet another approach to force operators of pirate sites to travel to the US and appear in a US court. Or give up on their rights and let the court decide based on the copyright lawyers arguments only.

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    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2020 @ 5:59am

      Re: Abuse of trademark law, maybe

      If the operators don't have money to burn, they fold up shop, rebrand their site, and pop up under a new name.

      If they do have money to burn, they show up in court and roast the plaintiff's fraudulent arguments. ... then fold up shop, rebrand their site, and pop up under a new name.

      Where's the win?

      link to this | view in chronology ]

      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2020 @ 7:33am

        Re: Re: Abuse of trademark law, maybe

        If they really have money to burn, they hire hitmen to kill the moron that is making their life more difficult.

        link to this | view in chronology ]

    • identicon
      Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2020 @ 7:42am

      Re: Abuse of trademark law, maybe

      It looks like yet another approach to force operators of pirate sites to travel to the US and appear in a US court. Or give up on their rights and let the court decide based on the copyright lawyers arguments only.

      The entire point is the fact the pirates won't show up to court. Doing so would give the troll their personal info, which they would then use to file charges against the pirates directly. But if they can't get the pirate's personal info, the trolls can use the default judgement to shutdown the site on trademark law alone*.

      The trolls are perfectly able to sue the site based on copyright violation alone. Hell, they can have it taken down without even going to court with a DMCA notice. Instead they claim trademark violations? That sounds like they have no evidence and just want vengeance.

      This is just abuse of IP law applied in a slightly different way, and it's the reason why people lose any and all respect for it.

      (* These trademarks would not stand up if challenged. Their common use prior to their filling would disqualify them from trademark protection. It's solely the fact that challenging them would require the pirates to reveal themselves that the trademarks can exist at all.)

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      • identicon
        Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2020 @ 8:59am

        Re: Re: Abuse of trademark law, maybe

        You can hire a lawyer to show up for you.

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      Bergman (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 9:16am

      Re: Abuse of trademark law, maybe

      If it works, you could trademark terms like IPO and lawsuit, and go after any company that used them without a license.

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    That One Guy (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 12:02am

    'How dare you abuse the law, that's my trick!'

    The respect that such people show for the law seems to be based entirely on how much that law helps them at any given moment, such that if it's personally beneficial to them then the law is the law, and respecting it is of utmost importance, yet the second it can be twisted to serve them the spirit and even the letter of the law are thrown under the bus, with laughable excuse after pathetic excuse made for how their actions are totally different from those they are trying to shake down.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Jeroen (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 12:25am

    Another copyright smart-ass lawyer: "well, since you are the registered trademark owner, you are responsible for all the infringements happening under your trademark. See you in court!"

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    Norahc (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 12:48am

    Jellyfish have more of an ethical backbone than IP enforcement trolls.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Rico R. (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 1:38am

    Honest Trailers?

    In a world where Internet piracy runs rampant, yet Hollywood is seeing its best returns in years, one lawyer sets out to boldly go where no trademark law has gone before: Stopping the pirates. But what happens when the fellow YouTuber assisting in this battle gets a bogus DMCA claim from a studio that the lawyer is blindly serving? Will the lawyer realize the error of his ways and stand down from his holier-than-thou mission? Or will he continue the trek until copyright maximalism has all but guaranteed the Internet itself is no more? Find out in... The Copyright Troll Under the Bridge! Coming (hopefully) soon to a reality check near you...

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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      Rico R. (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 1:40am

      Re: Honest Trailers?

      For the record, I do know about Screen Junkies and I love their Honest Trailers series... It would be a shame if I found out the guy behind it was knowingly helping in this anti-piracy shakedown!

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2020 @ 1:45am

    He did say he didn't use "Prenda Law" tactics to harass innocent people - so apparently this is what a few years of mourning the death of copyright heroes gets you.

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      JoeCool (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 6:21am

      Re:

      How does he know who's innocent or not? That cannot be determined until after a full trial. So his statement is worthless AT BEST.

      link to this | view in chronology ]

  • identicon
    Anonymous Coward, 9 Apr 2020 @ 6:23am

    Re: pune girls 24/7 services

    You know, you get quite a bunch of nutters on the site here, but some of the spammers rival them for craziness.

    link to this | view in chronology ]

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    Tim R (profile), 9 Apr 2020 @ 6:36am

    Many of them are simply 21st century ambulance-chasers, nothing more than opportunistic mercenaries.

    There, that should give them a few more ideas for trademarks. And, if that fails, some interesting new band names.

    "21st Century Ambulance Chasers? I think I saw them open for Phish..."

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