The cleric elite should not have been empowered to dictate what people were allowed to learn. They should have been banned from teaching.
Given that they were the only ones who were preserving and spreading knowledge back then in Europe, you might have had to wait for the Arabs to come up from southern Spain or northern Africa to fill the void, though.
Trivia: Why was it called the "Dark Ages"? Because the King of Bohemia had veto power over the election of the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (northern Europe). Cultural imperialism at its best!
If CyberMicrosoft had never released CyberWindows, then the Internet would have never had the level of CyberSpam and CyberViruses that it has today, and people wouldn't think it was CyberNormal to have all this CyberCrap happening to their PCs.
No wonder they're scared.
Note: CyberFUD refers to the overuse of the prefix "cyber-", not to the article.
It kind of makes sense, sort of, if you stick your tongue out the side of your mouth and squint just right.
I wonder how many biofuel production plants are in states that don't provide tax breaks for them? I know that in Iowa, gasohol would not be economical if the state didn't subsidize the price by lowering gas tax rates for gasohol - 15% and 85%.
Think about this for a while: biofuel production as it currently is implemented only makes sense for corporate, commodity export agriculture. The kind of agriculture that thinks that chemical fertilizers, herbicide and insecticide application and genetically engineered seedstock are the right thing to do.
If you pour enough fertilizer on, you can avoid looking at broad spectrum soil health. I know that people measure percent organic matter content in soil. But what isn't measured is whether the soil is alive or not. How many soil micro-organisms are present in what numbers? How many insects, earthworms, etc are present?
What trace minerals are present, not just NPK? What is the soil compaction? I have had people tell me that modern equipment doesn't compact soil any worse than 1930s tractors. However, force is proportional to the square of velocity. When you have a combine with a 24' grain head followed alongside by a semitrailer off-loading harvested grain at 20 mph, don't you think that might be a little worse than a McCormick Deering Farmall "H" going 6 mph? I know that when I was working on a simulation project, we found that a truck could compact soil somewhere in the range of 30-50 feet deep, depending on speed.
If organic matter is being removed for fodder, bedding or biofuel production, what does that do to the soil and the life it contains. It ain't just dirt, you know.
Biofuel is one of those feel-good projects that you just really want to have succeed. And it does sometimes. I've heard that the Brazilians are doing just fine with sugar cane stalks after the juice is squeezed out. But their crops and climate are a tad bit different in a way that favors biofuel production with leftovers from the harvest.
A project that I worked on back around 1980 (right before Reagan vetoed the Synfuels Bill and destroyed alternative energy research in the US for the next 25 years) found that gasohol plants only made sense as small farm-scale production units that a farmer could use to power his equipment. It took all the feedstock and transportation costs out of the equation, and some of the processing costs. Trucking and shipping grain all over the world makes sense only for the Teamsters Union.
This post is based on basic computer security principles. IANAL.
Also, let's separate legal privacy from actual privacy. I expect to have more legal privacy than I can count on for the rumor mill.
The Internet is a broadcast medium. Further, once broadcast, it can never be recalled. We need legal constraints on what the government can do with that.
Any information that I host on the Internet is on a broadcast medium. It is not as private as something that I keep inside of the firewall. It is far more private than something that I trust to a third party Internet service provider: Gmail, Facebook, Dropbox.... And "clouds" are not private at all. You do not own the cloud. They may be temporarily private, but don't count on it in the long term.
The third party providers also come in various ranks of trustworthiness. I wouldn't trust Facebook as far as I could throw one of their server farms. They keep changing the rules.
I don't trust social media at all. So I don't use social media at all. If it is my information, I will take care of it myself, thank you very much. The risk of letting go of my information is not worth any benefit that they can promise me. Ask the users of Megaupload how that worked out for them. And Megaupload wasn't even a social network. There was an expectation of privacy. If you don't have control of it, then you don't have control of it. Period. Quit arguing. If you decided to use a social network and released your private information to them, then betrayal should not be a surprise.
I learned all this stuff back in the 80s, when I was using Compuserve and the Source and BBSs. I learned not to do anything that I wouldn't do in "real life" [TM]. I learned not to expect that other people would respect my wishes about my comments, uploads or downloads. And it was more apparent back then that I was using somebody else's space.
So, while the government needs to be restrained on what they can do with my actions on the Internet, that doesn't change the practical fact that the Internet is a public place. Even in the area where I am hosting my own information. I have still put it where it can be accessed without my permission, passwords notwithstanding.
Your assumptions are so fact-free that my mind boggles.
How do Monsanto's "innovations" benefit farmers? They benefit Monsanto. Period. End of story. They benefit Monsanto so much that people rose up in arms over the Terminator gene that Monsanto wanted to put in all its seeds. It could have ended life as we know it, but it would have been good for Monsanto.
And tell me more about those profits that farmers make. The saying around here (rural Iowa) is that the crop pays the bills and the government check is the profit. Every time something happens that increases farmers income, their suppliers and buyers (middlemen) take a bigger cut. They leave enough to keep farmers in business, because they don't want to have to take the risk of actually farming themselves. But even that is changing.
Farmers do not control their own markets. They do not set the price for their crops. They can only take what is offered. It is the age-old problem with farming. You have to guess which way the market is going at least a year (or more) before you start raising the crop. What other industry operates under those conditions?
The bottom line is that Monsanto doesn't take any of the risk of planting seeds that they sell. They don't stand to lose money on a crop failure of those seeds. They don't have to worry about a market glut. They don't have to plant, cultivate, harvest, store or transport that crop. But they still want to own something that is not theirs. It's like Microsoft wanting to own everything that you produce in Word or Windows... Oh, wait, they already do that! Never mind. Want to ever see your data safe and sound again? Pay for your OS/application again. They will lock it up just as quick as Monsanto will lock up seeds. Forever.
Or maybe it's like buying a movie and wanting to watch it on your TV or on your laptop... Oh, wait! The MPAA already sues people for doing that! Never mind!
It's all part of the great public domain land grab, and Monsanto, Microsoft, **AA is the villain,. Wise up and smell the coffee. Monsanto did not invent DNA.
There is a principle involved that tells me that pure pleasure always has a downside for someone. It is that pleasure is basically self-centered. It is part of the definition for me.
If pleasure is the only goal of an activity, it is self-centered. Obviously, a couple having intercourse give each other pleasure, but they are also being other-centered and building intimacy with each other. I acknowledge that it is not always the case. But sex causes intimacy, and when intimacy is rejected, it causes harm.
There are other forms of pleasure which are more obviously self-centered that shouldn't need explanation. But even if I am by myself having a good time, telling myself that I am not hurting anybody, I am not telling the truth. Someone is missing my company, my talents, my potential. Something is not getting done because I am sunk in pure pleasure. Some path is not being realized because I am absent.
Pleasure is a very nice side benefit. It doesn't make a very good prime motive.
One problem with measuring happiness is that there is no commonly agreed on definition.
The worse problem is that many people think that happiness equates with pleasure. Wrong metric. Pleasure always has a downside for someone. Happiness does not affect anyone negatively - except me when I first wake up.
We fixate on the pursuit of happiness because it was one phrase in our country's history. I would suggest that a better metric to use would be social justice - a broad spectrum social justice, not just one or two special interests, a social justice metric that affects EVERYONE.
If you can ignore the source and take a look at the issues, I can point out a few examples. You may have your own examples that I don't know about. These are the ones that I am familiar with. I have no desire to start a flame war here. Translate as needed. End Disclaimer.
Part of the Catechism sets the foundation for WHY social justice is important to a properly functioning society.
I. Respect for the Human Person
1929 Social justice can be obtained only in respecting the transcendent dignity of man. The person represents the ultimate end of society, which is ordered to him:
What is at stake is the dignity of the human person, whose defense and promotion have been entrusted to us by the Creator, and to whom the men and women at every moment of history are strictly and responsibly in debt.
1930 Respect for the human person entails respect for the rights that flow from his dignity as a creature. These rights are prior to society and must be recognized by it. They are the basis of the moral legitimacy of every authority: by flouting them, or refusing to recognize them in its positive legislation, a society undermines its own moral legitimacy. If it does not respect them, authority can rely only on force or violence to obtain obedience from its subjects. It is the Church’s role to remind men of good will of these rights and to distinguish them from unwarranted or false claims.
1931 Respect for the human person proceeds by way of respect for the principle that “everyone should look upon his neighbor (without any exception) as ‘another self,’ above all bearing in mind his life and the means necessary for living it with dignity.” No legislation could by itself do away with the fears, prejudices, and attitudes of pride and selfishness which obstruct the establishment of truly fraternal societies. Such behavior will cease only through the charity that finds in every man a “neighbor,” a brother.
1932 The duty of making oneself a neighbor to others and actively serving them becomes even more urgent when it involves the disadvantaged, in whatever area this may be. “As you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.”
1933 This same duty extends to those who think or act differently from us. The teaching of Christ goes so far as to require the forgiveness of offenses. He extends the commandment of love, which is that of the New Law, to all enemies. Liberation in the spirit of the Gospel is incompatible with hatred of one’s enemy as a person, but not with hatred of the evil that he does as an enemy.
And:
1940 Solidarity is manifested in the first place by the distribution of goods and remuneration for work. It also presupposes the effort for a more just social order where tensions are better able to be reduced and conflicts more readily settled by negotiation.
1941 Socio-economic problems can be resolved only with the help of all the forms of solidarity: solidarity of the poor among themselves, between rich and poor, of workers among themselves, between employers and employees in a business, solidarity among nations and peoples. International solidarity is a requirement of the moral order; world peace depends in part upon this.
1942 The virtue of solidarity goes beyond material goods. In spreading the spiritual goods of the faith, the Church has promoted, and often opened new paths for, the development of temporal goods as well. And so throughout the centuries has the Lord’s saying been verified: “Seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as well”:
For two thousand years this sentiment has lived and endured in the soul of the Church, impelling souls then and now to the heroic charity of monastic farmers, liberators of slaves, healers of the sick, and messengers of faith, civilization, and science to all generations and all peoples for the sake of creating the social conditions capable of offering to everyone possible a life worthy of man and of a Christian.
I believe that cordoning off pieces of technology that are contained in patents will increase the available field of endeavor. It's a win-win. [Losers not mentioned.]
Because. Bread and circuses are still more important than social justice and a fair, distributed economy.
We NEED more Beelionnaires!
Same thing goes for any part of the economy that touches entertainment - RIAA, MPAA, print publishing, news services, Artists Guild, Metallica, Microsoft (slapstick), Oracle (yacht races), The SCO Group (more slapstick)........
I remember (vaguely) back in the 80s, some investment wiz defrauded people out of billions of dollars and got a $500,000 fine, Mike somebody or other,
But now I can get the same fine by jail-breaking a $500 phone, albeit with a longer prison sentence.
Is America a great place or what? Look at the progress we've made in less than 30 years - a multi-thousand-fold reduction in the capital required to totally ruin your life!
But OXO has one fatal flaw. They can't manufacture products without defects. I stopped buying OXO years ago after several pieces of kitchen utensils developed loose handles. That doesn't sound too bad until you try cooking something and soapy water dribbles out of the handle into your food.
American manufacturing used to deliver products that were excellent from start to finish - from concept to packaging. We need to relearn those skills because the quarterly stock price driven attitudes at modern companies are killing our economy.
One exception that comes to mind - this is my first post anywhere written on a tablet - a Google/ASUS Nexus 7.
Because even if the contractor does a bad job (like the one who started demolishing my chimney from the bottom up) you have to give them a chance to correct the problem. You can't fire them and hire someone else who MAY be competent. You can't withhold payment for work that wasn't done right. You have to let them mess up AGAIN! That's what the law says.
And for the person who claims that contractors have to put up with people who complain after the contractor did what was asked for - I have NEVER had a contractor do what I asked for. Not as a private home owner, not as a Data Center Manager, not as a project manager for large corporations. Contractors do one thing one way and that is how they make their money. It takes time to figure out something different. Doing something different costs them money. It ain't gonna happen.
They didn't have to investigate Microsoft and risk the ire of the richest man in the world. They know where the real power lies.
Now, if I could just buy a brand-name computer with the Linux distro of my choice without having to know the double-top-secret password to get at them, I would be a happy man. The last new computer that I bought was an HP business model back before Carly merged them with DEC/Compaq. I've been living on cast-offs from a recycler, Midwest Computer Brokers in Walford, Iowa (mcbia.com) since then - and before then, come to think of it.
If you're not paying, the money is coming from somewhere
I agree that this is not linked to QOS, but it is probably too simplified.
TANSTAAFL still applies.
The money may come from me, from advertisers, from reselling my personal information, from charitable donations, from community effort, or any number of things. None of these are linked rigorously to QOS. All the permutations apply.
But when I get something for "free", and the service provider is reselling my personal information, then I am indeed the product. When they keep changing the rules and denying me access to what they are doing with my personal information (a double standard), then I am indeed the product, and I have a HUGE problem with that. Others don't. Good for them.
You picks your horses and you takes your chances. Me - I'm not a gambler.
On the post: Innovators Break Stuff, Including The Rules: How Gates, Jobs & Zuckerberg Could Have Been Targeted Like Aaron Swartz
Re: You're right
Given that they were the only ones who were preserving and spreading knowledge back then in Europe, you might have had to wait for the Arabs to come up from southern Spain or northern Africa to fill the void, though.
Trivia: Why was it called the "Dark Ages"? Because the King of Bohemia had veto power over the election of the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (northern Europe). Cultural imperialism at its best!
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Irony
They just might be able to get away with this.
On the post: If Most Crime Involves A 'Cyber' Element, Can't We Just Call It Crime Instead Of Cybercrime?
CyberFUD
No wonder they're scared.
Note: CyberFUD refers to the overuse of the prefix "cyber-", not to the article.
On the post: DailyDirt: Microorganisms For Biofuel Production
I wonder how many biofuel production plants are in states that don't provide tax breaks for them? I know that in Iowa, gasohol would not be economical if the state didn't subsidize the price by lowering gas tax rates for gasohol - 15% and 85%.
Think about this for a while: biofuel production as it currently is implemented only makes sense for corporate, commodity export agriculture. The kind of agriculture that thinks that chemical fertilizers, herbicide and insecticide application and genetically engineered seedstock are the right thing to do.
If you pour enough fertilizer on, you can avoid looking at broad spectrum soil health. I know that people measure percent organic matter content in soil. But what isn't measured is whether the soil is alive or not. How many soil micro-organisms are present in what numbers? How many insects, earthworms, etc are present?
What trace minerals are present, not just NPK? What is the soil compaction? I have had people tell me that modern equipment doesn't compact soil any worse than 1930s tractors. However, force is proportional to the square of velocity. When you have a combine with a 24' grain head followed alongside by a semitrailer off-loading harvested grain at 20 mph, don't you think that might be a little worse than a McCormick Deering Farmall "H" going 6 mph? I know that when I was working on a simulation project, we found that a truck could compact soil somewhere in the range of 30-50 feet deep, depending on speed.
If organic matter is being removed for fodder, bedding or biofuel production, what does that do to the soil and the life it contains. It ain't just dirt, you know.
Biofuel is one of those feel-good projects that you just really want to have succeed. And it does sometimes. I've heard that the Brazilians are doing just fine with sugar cane stalks after the juice is squeezed out. But their crops and climate are a tad bit different in a way that favors biofuel production with leftovers from the harvest.
A project that I worked on back around 1980 (right before Reagan vetoed the Synfuels Bill and destroyed alternative energy research in the US for the next 25 years) found that gasohol plants only made sense as small farm-scale production units that a farmer could use to power his equipment. It took all the feedstock and transportation costs out of the equation, and some of the processing costs. Trucking and shipping grain all over the world makes sense only for the Teamsters Union.
On the post: Top German Police Officer: 'Anyone On The Internet Has Left The Private Sphere'
It is so easy to confuse things on the Internet
Also, let's separate legal privacy from actual privacy. I expect to have more legal privacy than I can count on for the rumor mill.
The Internet is a broadcast medium. Further, once broadcast, it can never be recalled. We need legal constraints on what the government can do with that.
Any information that I host on the Internet is on a broadcast medium. It is not as private as something that I keep inside of the firewall. It is far more private than something that I trust to a third party Internet service provider: Gmail, Facebook, Dropbox.... And "clouds" are not private at all. You do not own the cloud. They may be temporarily private, but don't count on it in the long term.
The third party providers also come in various ranks of trustworthiness. I wouldn't trust Facebook as far as I could throw one of their server farms. They keep changing the rules.
I don't trust social media at all. So I don't use social media at all. If it is my information, I will take care of it myself, thank you very much. The risk of letting go of my information is not worth any benefit that they can promise me. Ask the users of Megaupload how that worked out for them. And Megaupload wasn't even a social network. There was an expectation of privacy. If you don't have control of it, then you don't have control of it. Period. Quit arguing. If you decided to use a social network and released your private information to them, then betrayal should not be a surprise.
I learned all this stuff back in the 80s, when I was using Compuserve and the Source and BBSs. I learned not to do anything that I wouldn't do in "real life" [TM]. I learned not to expect that other people would respect my wishes about my comments, uploads or downloads. And it was more apparent back then that I was using somebody else's space.
So, while the government needs to be restrained on what they can do with my actions on the Internet, that doesn't change the practical fact that the Internet is a public place. Even in the area where I am hosting my own information. I have still put it where it can be accessed without my permission, passwords notwithstanding.
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Of course it's a boondoggle!
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Re: Re:
Your assumptions are so fact-free that my mind boggles.
How do Monsanto's "innovations" benefit farmers? They benefit Monsanto. Period. End of story. They benefit Monsanto so much that people rose up in arms over the Terminator gene that Monsanto wanted to put in all its seeds. It could have ended life as we know it, but it would have been good for Monsanto.
And tell me more about those profits that farmers make. The saying around here (rural Iowa) is that the crop pays the bills and the government check is the profit. Every time something happens that increases farmers income, their suppliers and buyers (middlemen) take a bigger cut. They leave enough to keep farmers in business, because they don't want to have to take the risk of actually farming themselves. But even that is changing.
Farmers do not control their own markets. They do not set the price for their crops. They can only take what is offered. It is the age-old problem with farming. You have to guess which way the market is going at least a year (or more) before you start raising the crop. What other industry operates under those conditions?
The bottom line is that Monsanto doesn't take any of the risk of planting seeds that they sell. They don't stand to lose money on a crop failure of those seeds. They don't have to worry about a market glut. They don't have to plant, cultivate, harvest, store or transport that crop. But they still want to own something that is not theirs. It's like Microsoft wanting to own everything that you produce in Word or Windows... Oh, wait, they already do that! Never mind. Want to ever see your data safe and sound again? Pay for your OS/application again. They will lock it up just as quick as Monsanto will lock up seeds. Forever.
Or maybe it's like buying a movie and wanting to watch it on your TV or on your laptop... Oh, wait! The MPAA already sues people for doing that! Never mind!
It's all part of the great public domain land grab, and Monsanto, Microsoft, **AA is the villain,. Wise up and smell the coffee. Monsanto did not invent DNA.
On the post: Bestselling Author Of Children's Books Accuses Public Libraries Of Stealing His Paychecks
Car libraries
On the post: Supreme Court Set To Hear Case On Whether Or Not Planting Legally Purchased Seeds Infringes On Monsanto Patent
Yup, that makes sense....
... unless Monsanto doesn't get their cut.
On the post: Should We Be Measuring Happiness As An Economic Measure?
Re: Re:
If pleasure is the only goal of an activity, it is self-centered. Obviously, a couple having intercourse give each other pleasure, but they are also being other-centered and building intimacy with each other. I acknowledge that it is not always the case. But sex causes intimacy, and when intimacy is rejected, it causes harm.
There are other forms of pleasure which are more obviously self-centered that shouldn't need explanation. But even if I am by myself having a good time, telling myself that I am not hurting anybody, I am not telling the truth. Someone is missing my company, my talents, my potential. Something is not getting done because I am sunk in pure pleasure. Some path is not being realized because I am absent.
Pleasure is a very nice side benefit. It doesn't make a very good prime motive.
On the post: Should We Be Measuring Happiness As An Economic Measure?
The worse problem is that many people think that happiness equates with pleasure. Wrong metric. Pleasure always has a downside for someone. Happiness does not affect anyone negatively - except me when I first wake up.
We fixate on the pursuit of happiness because it was one phrase in our country's history. I would suggest that a better metric to use would be social justice - a broad spectrum social justice, not just one or two special interests, a social justice metric that affects EVERYONE.
If you can ignore the source and take a look at the issues, I can point out a few examples. You may have your own examples that I don't know about. These are the ones that I am familiar with. I have no desire to start a flame war here. Translate as needed. End Disclaimer.
One book that gives an overview of the whole range that I refer to is titled "Modern Catholic Social Teaching: The Popes Confront the Industrial Age 1740-1958" by Joe Holland. http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Catholic-Social-Teaching-Industrial/dp/0809142252/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&am p;ie=UTF8&qid=1360862824&sr=1-3&keywords=catholic+social+teaching+joe+holland
Also:
"The Seamless Garment: Writings on the Consistent Ethic of Life" http://www.amazon.com/Seamless-Garment-Writings-Consistent-Ethic/dp/157075764X/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&am p;ie=UTF8&qid=1360861306&sr=1-3&keywords=joseph+bernardin
Part of the Catechism sets the foundation for WHY social justice is important to a properly functioning society.
And:
On the post: Bad Economics: Confusing Correlation And Causation When It Comes To Patents And Innovation
Makes sense
{/parody}
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Re:
We NEED more Beelionnaires!
Same thing goes for any part of the economy that touches entertainment - RIAA, MPAA, print publishing, news services, Artists Guild, Metallica, Microsoft (slapstick), Oracle (yacht races), The SCO Group (more slapstick)........
But not you.
On the post: On To The Appeal... As Judge Basically Keeps Everything As Is In Apple/Samsung Patent Dispute
You're outa here!
PJ addresses the part where Koh didn't really mention the strange theories that Messr. Hogan introduced as jury foreman.
I think Koh REALLY, really wanted to get this out of her courtroom. At this point, nothing she did could have turned out right anyway.
On the post: How Unlocking Your Phone May Now Be A Crime: $500,000 Fines And 5 Years In Prison For First Offense
Legal proportion
But now I can get the same fine by jail-breaking a $500 phone, albeit with a longer prison sentence.
Is America a great place or what? Look at the progress we've made in less than 30 years - a multi-thousand-fold reduction in the capital required to totally ruin your life!
On the post: OXO Shows The Right Way To Respond To Bogus 'Outrage' Over 'Copied' Product
Almost enough to make me buy OXO
American manufacturing used to deliver products that were excellent from start to finish - from concept to packaging. We need to relearn those skills because the quarterly stock price driven attitudes at modern companies are killing our economy.
One exception that comes to mind - this is my first post anywhere written on a tablet - a Google/ASUS Nexus 7.
On the post: Now That Amazon Is Offering Auto-Rip Of CDs You Bought, Will It Do The Same For Books?
Question?
Inquiring minds want to know!
On the post: Contractors Lining Up Against Free Speech
Not surprising
And for the person who claims that contractors have to put up with people who complain after the contractor did what was asked for - I have NEVER had a contractor do what I asked for. Not as a private home owner, not as a Data Center Manager, not as a project manager for large corporations. Contractors do one thing one way and that is how they make their money. It takes time to figure out something different. Doing something different costs them money. It ain't gonna happen.
On the post: As Expected, FTC Announces Close Of Google Investigation With No Antitrust Charges, But Minor Tweaks To Biz Practices
It worked for the FTC
Now, if I could just buy a brand-name computer with the Linux distro of my choice without having to know the double-top-secret password to get at them, I would be a happy man. The last new computer that I bought was an HP business model back before Carly merged them with DEC/Compaq. I've been living on cast-offs from a recycler, Midwest Computer Brokers in Walford, Iowa (mcbia.com) since then - and before then, come to think of it.
On the post: Stop Saying 'If You're Not Paying, You're The Product'
If you're not paying, the money is coming from somewhere
TANSTAAFL still applies.
The money may come from me, from advertisers, from reselling my personal information, from charitable donations, from community effort, or any number of things. None of these are linked rigorously to QOS. All the permutations apply.
But when I get something for "free", and the service provider is reselling my personal information, then I am indeed the product. When they keep changing the rules and denying me access to what they are doing with my personal information (a double standard), then I am indeed the product, and I have a HUGE problem with that. Others don't. Good for them.
You picks your horses and you takes your chances. Me - I'm not a gambler.
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