I'm guessing Steele may be trying to claim a copyright on her cut of the film. And I'm further guessing she may claim that Bell owns the footage, but doesn't own the copyright.
Obviously, we need to know more about how the film was made and what working arrangements they had. For example, did Steele do all the work and Bell paid for some of the cost? There have been court cases where if the parties did not have a strict work-for-hire relationship, the "employee" may have some IP rights to the work they did. Comic book artists, in particular, through the help of fellow artist Neal Adams, were able to get their artwork back to resell as art since they did not work under a strict work-for-hire agreement. Could be something similar in this case.
Well, let's admit the guy is a bad dude, and the reason he's returning to jail is because he violated a lot more rules than just using Facebook. (I would think moving without telling his probation officer is a biggie!)
But lawyers are the world's worst writers, and the legal system is rife with arcane language that even lawyers can't agree with each other on what some of it means.
In this instance, instead of listing places he couldn't go, the order should have been written to say what specific activities the court didn't want him to do on the Internet. For example, instead of saying he couldn't use file sharing software, say instead he's not allowed to download or upload kiddie porn! That's pretty clear. Instead of saying he can't use IRC, say instead that he's prohibited from contacting anyone under the age of 18! (That would allow him to have a Facebook page, but not go trolling for teenage girls. Likewise with the prohibition from using newsgroups, tell him he can read the technical ones, but he has to stay out of the porn ones.
He went to jail for very specific reasons, his probation should have specific activities he can and can't do on the Internet. There just shouldn't be vague wording that can be interpreted in different ways.
I agree with some of the comments here that if you're trying to keep him off Websites with BBS functionality, well, that's most of the Internet these days, including this Website!
It's interesting this is happening because college professors were doing the exact same thing in the 1970s and 1980s. At that time, they were photocopying chapters out of textbooks, magazine and newspapers with no regard for copyright, assembling their own course materials, and sending students to nearby copy shops to "buy" their copyright infringed textbooks.
The college textbook publishers found out about this and the practice was stopped. Some publishers did license their material for reprints, but most didn't, and instead kept pushing the cost of textbooks higher. It's just strange that colleges are doing almost the same thing again.
Leigh Beadon gave a good answer for the printed part of your comment. As for the music side, no musical recording goes into the public domain until Feb. 15, 2067! The song-writing copyright is in the public domain before 1923, which means you can sing and record the song without paying a royalty, but the actual sound recording is locked up for another 55 years!
You can translate them, but you can't post them, print them or distribute them without permission. I'm assuming you want to put them on the Internet. In the US and Europe, everything exists under a copyright unless the copyright holder gives up some of their rights in a Creative Commons statement.
Regarding iTunes, most "experts" believe Apple just breaks even on the iTunes site, but may make as much as $100 per iPod/iPhone. So that's how Apple makes its money. 90% of what iTunes collects go to the recording companies. Oh, and to get Universal Music to agree to license its songs, Apple had to give it a royalty on each iPod sold (which the other labels also received through a mutual benefit clause). Apple is basically doing the record labels a favor!
When you're earning by touring and playing live, you can't squeeze in more concerts than you physically can. And you can't raise ticket prices infinitely as well. So your income is limited, even if your music is terribly popular.
I think you have this wrong. As an act gets bigger it moves to bigger venues. Lady GaGa has made $100 million the last two years touring. Her first go-round, she played 3,000-seat concert halls. Her second tour, she played 16,000-seat stadiums. In the last two years, Katy Perry has earned $50 million. Pink in the last few years has earned $40 million. And The Rolling Stones earned $160 million in each of their last 18-month world tours. How much do you think their CDs earned them in the same period?
These days the CD is the promo items that gets people into the concerts, not the other way.
>>When you're earning by touring and playing live, you can't squeeze in more concerts than you physically can. And you can't raise ticket prices infinitely as well. So your income is limited, even if your music is terribly popular.
Being a lawyer is a pretty uncreative job most of the time, so when they get a chance to start making up reasons for an injunction or lawsuit, apparently they go over the top with their analogies. Give them enough rope and they'll eventually claim that ripping a DVD will bring about the Apocalypse!
The funny thing is that the studios could probably make more money by making movies MORE accessible than less accessible. For example, we've seen computer games WITHOUT DRM sell a heck of a lot more games than games WITH DRM. And O'Reilly Books has found that the more its books get "pirated" the more printed versions it sells. (IT guys apparently like to preview books before they buy them!)
And there's also synergy that the studios still seem to be ignoring. Ask George Lucas how that worked out. He made more money by selling Star Wars toys and books than he did from his movies. And Disney has known this for decades. The amusement park business kept Disney alive when it was turning out crappy movies.
Getting the studios to see the light is going to take a lot of time and effort!
This is basically why Prohibition didn't work. It would be better to legalize the use of copyrighted works rather than trying to stamp it out. For example 95% of what's on Google is "copyright infringement." Anybody who put a song under their home video is a criminal. Or wedding videos. Most wedding photographers have given up trying to tell the bride and groom they can't have "Time or our Lives" or some such song on their video and just do it. There should be some fair use provisions that allow people to use music or clips in their own productions.
I couldn't listen to any of the music released 2000 to 2009, which were mostly rap and R&B. CD sales have actually picked up when the number of pop albums increased. Artists like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry and Adele have actually stopped the sales decline!
Well, the movie and record industries have to be shown that they can make more money by opening up rather than hunkering down. For example, home video companies ignored the MPAA's lawsuit against the Sony Betamax and helped show the industry that there was more money to be made in the home video market than the theatrical market without losing any money in the theatrical market. Internet companies are doing the same.
For example, movie studios could virtually stop the effects of piracy by making all of their movies available online for free. No need for piracy if it was all free. You would just have to sit through, say, 6 minutes of commercials that would generate the same revenue as a DVD would. Studios would make more money and piracy wouldn't be a problem. DVD sales are already declining because of Video On Demand (not piracy). Studios could reclaim the revenue via Internet streaming rather than just waiting until the DVD market dries up.
There are other revenue streams that might work. The porn industry has led the way with subscriptions. They could follow the Netflix model where everything is free with a monthly subscription, or have a Blu-Ray club where if you buy 5 Blu-Rays a month you get all the movies you want online.
There are many ways to make money online, but the movie and record industry would rather maintain the status quo, and in the end, lose the market.
Actually a lot of people think monopolies increase prices, but in the Standard Oil case, Rockefeller kept prices on gas and oil low to keep out competitors. Microsoft kept the price of Windows low for years to keep out competitors, and raised prices when there were actual competitors (Apple, Red Hat, etc.). Like Google, monopolies can often keep prices low because being large, they're more efficient. Standard Oil was broken up into 34 different companies, including Exxon and Mobil, which raised operating costs and raised prices (and also made Rockefeller much richer than if the company was kept together).
I own the copyright of people smiling in a photo. I'm currently in the process of suing everyone on earth who has a picture of people smiling in a photo!
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Guessing
Obviously, we need to know more about how the film was made and what working arrangements they had. For example, did Steele do all the work and Bell paid for some of the cost? There have been court cases where if the parties did not have a strict work-for-hire relationship, the "employee" may have some IP rights to the work they did. Comic book artists, in particular, through the help of fellow artist Neal Adams, were able to get their artwork back to resell as art since they did not work under a strict work-for-hire agreement. Could be something similar in this case.
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Fuzzy legal language
But lawyers are the world's worst writers, and the legal system is rife with arcane language that even lawyers can't agree with each other on what some of it means.
In this instance, instead of listing places he couldn't go, the order should have been written to say what specific activities the court didn't want him to do on the Internet. For example, instead of saying he couldn't use file sharing software, say instead he's not allowed to download or upload kiddie porn! That's pretty clear. Instead of saying he can't use IRC, say instead that he's prohibited from contacting anyone under the age of 18! (That would allow him to have a Facebook page, but not go trolling for teenage girls. Likewise with the prohibition from using newsgroups, tell him he can read the technical ones, but he has to stay out of the porn ones.
He went to jail for very specific reasons, his probation should have specific activities he can and can't do on the Internet. There just shouldn't be vague wording that can be interpreted in different ways.
I agree with some of the comments here that if you're trying to keep him off Websites with BBS functionality, well, that's most of the Internet these days, including this Website!
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The college textbook publishers found out about this and the practice was stopped. Some publishers did license their material for reprints, but most didn't, and instead kept pushing the cost of textbooks higher. It's just strange that colleges are doing almost the same thing again.
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Re: Copyright term
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Re: A question
E-mail the editors.
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DVD
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Re: Re:
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Re: not quite agree
I think you have this wrong. As an act gets bigger it moves to bigger venues. Lady GaGa has made $100 million the last two years touring. Her first go-round, she played 3,000-seat concert halls. Her second tour, she played 16,000-seat stadiums. In the last two years, Katy Perry has earned $50 million. Pink in the last few years has earned $40 million. And The Rolling Stones earned $160 million in each of their last 18-month world tours. How much do you think their CDs earned them in the same period?
These days the CD is the promo items that gets people into the concerts, not the other way.
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Re: not quite agree
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Frustrated Lawyers
The funny thing is that the studios could probably make more money by making movies MORE accessible than less accessible. For example, we've seen computer games WITHOUT DRM sell a heck of a lot more games than games WITH DRM. And O'Reilly Books has found that the more its books get "pirated" the more printed versions it sells. (IT guys apparently like to preview books before they buy them!)
And there's also synergy that the studios still seem to be ignoring. Ask George Lucas how that worked out. He made more money by selling Star Wars toys and books than he did from his movies. And Disney has known this for decades. The amusement park business kept Disney alive when it was turning out crappy movies.
Getting the studios to see the light is going to take a lot of time and effort!
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Prohibition
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Re: Music Sales
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New Paradigms
For example, movie studios could virtually stop the effects of piracy by making all of their movies available online for free. No need for piracy if it was all free. You would just have to sit through, say, 6 minutes of commercials that would generate the same revenue as a DVD would. Studios would make more money and piracy wouldn't be a problem. DVD sales are already declining because of Video On Demand (not piracy). Studios could reclaim the revenue via Internet streaming rather than just waiting until the DVD market dries up.
There are other revenue streams that might work. The porn industry has led the way with subscriptions. They could follow the Netflix model where everything is free with a monthly subscription, or have a Blu-Ray club where if you buy 5 Blu-Rays a month you get all the movies you want online.
There are many ways to make money online, but the movie and record industry would rather maintain the status quo, and in the end, lose the market.
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Re: Monopolies
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Illegal?
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Infringement
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Smiling
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Re: Re: Focus too tight
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Kicked me out
"The survey questions are of a very detailed and specific nature that requires a strong familiarity with WIPO and its operations.
"In the interest of your time the survey will terminate here."
I guess only experts need apply.
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Nobody reads these things
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