That Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Jul 2021 @ 7:11pm
Re: 'All those naughy bits gets in the way of a civil discussion
Correct, because in their own minds they are the only people who should have rights.
Everyone else has more power than we have, despite this great amount of power they actually haven't managed to ban christmas, cancel someone to death, steal an entire election.
We;re very upset we can't force them to just behave as we want them to, pretending they are as good as we are is unacceptable.
Something something like when rich plantation owners complained about how hard their lives were compared to their slaves.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Jul 2021 @ 5:09pm
Suddenly a bunch of light bulbs above peoples head just got a bit brighter as this event gave the real world example of things they were sure no one would ever do.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 1 Jul 2021 @ 5:06pm
"“The photo in question does not violate our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities and was removed in error. We apologize for the inconvenience” "
It is not an inconvenience when they can nuke an entire account from orbit over an "oopsie".
The desire to protect the secret sauce of how these decisions are made & reviewed stands in the way to exploring how they managed to screw up in the first place.
How a kiss between 2 men can be "contain nudity, or any kind of graphic or sexually suggestive content" I really don't get.
It might upset some people but ummm fuck 'em?
The same people who scream about seeing 2 men kissing, really seem to enjoy 2 women kissing... but rarely admit that to their wives.
The fact there is no way to tell what kicked this off, is troublesome as well.
Did that chick who runs 1 million moms send out a conservative battle cry to get it reported enough times?
Do reports outweigh common sense?
Does the fact many platforms seem to ignore they offer tools so the easily offended aren't offended by content they don't want to see play into this?
The response is always to nuke the content getting complaints then wait to see if there is an outcry before examining the situation.
If regular people/media make more noise than the conservative brigade then we should take a look.
If they people are doing the same thing as a heterosexual couple that wouldn't even get noticed, perhaps that is a check that should be applied rather than pretending that the act of 2 men kissing is somehow way more sexual and graphic somehow.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 30 Jun 2021 @ 7:22pm
Who us worry?
This has worked out so well in policing in this country, where decisions made by professionals can be overridden by a 3rd party who doesn't even need to hear the facts before putting them back on the job with back pay.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 30 Jun 2021 @ 6:57pm
One does wonder how the heck any of these mental giants have managed to avoid getting covid.
Its that weird thing where somehow after saying hold my beer they never manage to self remove from society.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 30 Jun 2021 @ 1:16am
Re: Re:
Given the number of white hats who end up with the FBI banging on their door because they dared tell a company their security is shite & they are leaking information is way to high.
In my mind I can see someone reaching the point where s/he is frustrated with getting the WD blow off who just launches a script that ends the viability of the botnet.
Something something hacked citizens computers to fix their DNS settings... not like something has been done for their own good before.
Something something root kitted peoples computers leaving them with expensive paperweights... no charges.
Something something took down an online file sharing/storage service, allowed all the data to be destroyed, & screwed people who weren't bad guys.
Everyone wants to pretend all the good guys only can wear white hats & all the bad guys have to wear black hats.
To a bunch of extorted people my hat is snow white, to a bunch of lawyers scared of what they imagine I might do, my hat is a black hole. In truth my hat is mostly grey like most peoples.
Sadly if the person behind it did it for our own good, its highly unlikely they will admit they did it.
People would be to angry to look at the evidence that might show WD had known about this, was warned about this, refused to make a patch to end the botnet, & strung the hacker along until nuclear seemed like the best option to stop it.
There always seems to be more to the story that gets missed...
The hacker might be a giant asshole or a giant savior... without full context how can one pass judgement?
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 29 Jun 2021 @ 10:45pm
My sideways view of reality sees another option no one has considered.
What if the 0 Day was released by a grey hat hacker?
They tried to warn WD & got the standard corporate speak for not our problem.
So there is a large botnet all run on boxen that the maker refuses to help owners secure.
There is a battle between various groups trying to have the most boxen at their command.
The Botnets do horrible things and make the internet a worse place.
But I can send this command to the boxens that tell me they are a WD box & end the botnet permanently.
WD gets a well deserved black eye for creating something so insecure & not just putting out a warning the boxes can be compromised (this isn't the first vuln they knew about) so take them off the net.
The fact they had the steps already programmed that would have made this much harder to pull off, and commented it out boggles the mind.
It's not a nice thing to do but sometimes big problems need solutions that cause pain.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 29 Jun 2021 @ 4:37pm
Funny how so many of these are "fixed" only after public outcry.
One does wonder how many of the mistakes are never fixed because the victim isn't able to generate enough public notice.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 29 Jun 2021 @ 4:34pm
"In his statement to Motherboard, [IDme CEO Blake] Hall said that facial recognition failures are not a problem with the technology but with the people using it to verify their identity. “For example, if someone uploads a selfie that only shows half their face.”"
Ahh the ever popular, "You're doing it wrong!" defense.
Our product is perfect, we never make mistakes, anyone who complains is doing it wrong or a bad actor trying to defraud the system.
That Anonymous Coward (profile), 29 Jun 2021 @ 4:29pm
Re: 2 things
"In the aptly named system_factory_restore script in the My Book Live's firmware, the authentication checks were commented out, making it possible for anyone with access to the device to perform a factory reset."
No one would ever do this, so just comment out these lines so we get less support calls...
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Re: 'All those naughy bits gets in the way of a civil discussion
Correct, because in their own minds they are the only people who should have rights.
Everyone else has more power than we have, despite this great amount of power they actually haven't managed to ban christmas, cancel someone to death, steal an entire election.
We;re very upset we can't force them to just behave as we want them to, pretending they are as good as we are is unacceptable.
Something something like when rich plantation owners complained about how hard their lives were compared to their slaves.
On the post: Trump Allegedly Demanded Parler Kick Off His Critics If It Wanted Him On The Platform
Skin so very very thin...
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Re: Google is missing an amazing business opportunity.
I like this idea.
On the post: Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Ridiculous Lawsuit Against Facebook Gets Tossed Out Of Court
Just because his dad had a bad reaction to a shot..
what?
Sociopath...
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Suddenly a bunch of light bulbs above peoples head just got a bit brighter as this event gave the real world example of things they were sure no one would ever do.
On the post: Content Moderation Case Study: Facebook Removes Image Of Two Men Kissing (2011)
"“The photo in question does not violate our Statement of Rights and Responsibilities and was removed in error. We apologize for the inconvenience” "
It is not an inconvenience when they can nuke an entire account from orbit over an "oopsie".
The desire to protect the secret sauce of how these decisions are made & reviewed stands in the way to exploring how they managed to screw up in the first place.
How a kiss between 2 men can be "contain nudity, or any kind of graphic or sexually suggestive content" I really don't get.
It might upset some people but ummm fuck 'em?
The same people who scream about seeing 2 men kissing, really seem to enjoy 2 women kissing... but rarely admit that to their wives.
The fact there is no way to tell what kicked this off, is troublesome as well.
Did that chick who runs 1 million moms send out a conservative battle cry to get it reported enough times?
Do reports outweigh common sense?
Does the fact many platforms seem to ignore they offer tools so the easily offended aren't offended by content they don't want to see play into this?
The response is always to nuke the content getting complaints then wait to see if there is an outcry before examining the situation.
If regular people/media make more noise than the conservative brigade then we should take a look.
If they people are doing the same thing as a heterosexual couple that wouldn't even get noticed, perhaps that is a check that should be applied rather than pretending that the act of 2 men kissing is somehow way more sexual and graphic somehow.
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Who us worry?
This has worked out so well in policing in this country, where decisions made by professionals can be overridden by a 3rd party who doesn't even need to hear the facts before putting them back on the job with back pay.
On the post: As Expected: Judge Grants Injunction Blocking Florida's Unconstitutional Social Media Law
One does wonder how the heck any of these mental giants have managed to avoid getting covid.
Its that weird thing where somehow after saying hold my beer they never manage to self remove from society.
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Trust us we're the cops!
falls to the ground laughing hysterically
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Re:
(turns to the crowd and whispers)
No one tell this AC about the systems for critical infrastructure & their flaws.
On the post: 'Malicious' Actor Is Wiping The Data Of Countless Western Digital My Book Users
Re: Re: 2 things
Y'all are laughing but deep down you know the sad truth...
This was exactly the discussion.
On the post: 'Malicious' Actor Is Wiping The Data Of Countless Western Digital My Book Users
Re: Re:
Given the number of white hats who end up with the FBI banging on their door because they dared tell a company their security is shite & they are leaking information is way to high.
In my mind I can see someone reaching the point where s/he is frustrated with getting the WD blow off who just launches a script that ends the viability of the botnet.
Something something hacked citizens computers to fix their DNS settings... not like something has been done for their own good before.
Something something root kitted peoples computers leaving them with expensive paperweights... no charges.
Something something took down an online file sharing/storage service, allowed all the data to be destroyed, & screwed people who weren't bad guys.
Everyone wants to pretend all the good guys only can wear white hats & all the bad guys have to wear black hats.
To a bunch of extorted people my hat is snow white, to a bunch of lawyers scared of what they imagine I might do, my hat is a black hole. In truth my hat is mostly grey like most peoples.
Sadly if the person behind it did it for our own good, its highly unlikely they will admit they did it.
People would be to angry to look at the evidence that might show WD had known about this, was warned about this, refused to make a patch to end the botnet, & strung the hacker along until nuclear seemed like the best option to stop it.
There always seems to be more to the story that gets missed...
The hacker might be a giant asshole or a giant savior... without full context how can one pass judgement?
On the post: 'Malicious' Actor Is Wiping The Data Of Countless Western Digital My Book Users
My sideways view of reality sees another option no one has considered.
What if the 0 Day was released by a grey hat hacker?
They tried to warn WD & got the standard corporate speak for not our problem.
So there is a large botnet all run on boxen that the maker refuses to help owners secure.
There is a battle between various groups trying to have the most boxen at their command.
The Botnets do horrible things and make the internet a worse place.
But I can send this command to the boxens that tell me they are a WD box & end the botnet permanently.
WD gets a well deserved black eye for creating something so insecure & not just putting out a warning the boxes can be compromised (this isn't the first vuln they knew about) so take them off the net.
The fact they had the steps already programmed that would have made this much harder to pull off, and commented it out boggles the mind.
It's not a nice thing to do but sometimes big problems need solutions that cause pain.
Something something sociopath...
On the post: Ubisoft Teams Up With Mystery Rights Holder To Remove Fun Fan-Made 'GoldenEye 007' Maps From 'Far Cry'
Maybe if we keep shitting on the fans they will learn to respect our copyrights!
MBA's cause a form of brain damage.
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Re: Re: Malicious Actor?
No that asshole they cut out of Home Alone 2 I think.
On the post: Once Again: Content Moderation Often Mistakes Reporting On Bad Behavior With Celebrating Bad Behavior
Funny how so many of these are "fixed" only after public outcry.
One does wonder how many of the mistakes are never fixed because the victim isn't able to generate enough public notice.
On the post: Facial Recognition's Latest Failure Is Keeping People From Accessing Their Unemployment Benefits
"In his statement to Motherboard, [IDme CEO Blake] Hall said that facial recognition failures are not a problem with the technology but with the people using it to verify their identity. “For example, if someone uploads a selfie that only shows half their face.”"
Ahh the ever popular, "You're doing it wrong!" defense.
Our product is perfect, we never make mistakes, anyone who complains is doing it wrong or a bad actor trying to defraud the system.
On the post: 'Malicious' Actor Is Wiping The Data Of Countless Western Digital My Book Users
Re: 2 things
"In the aptly named system_factory_restore script in the My Book Live's firmware, the authentication checks were commented out, making it possible for anyone with access to the device to perform a factory reset."
No one would ever do this, so just comment out these lines so we get less support calls...
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Re: Re:
You're listening wrong!
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Re: Re: So does that mean…
Blue & genitalia are never a good mix...
Blue balls are bad and well blue waffle...
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