Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Be careful what you wish for...
At least things will be clearer as to who owns what, and what we can do with what material. Oh that is copyrighted, and I should contact such-and-such. Oh that is in public domain, so I can just use it, but I'm sure the original creator would like to know what I did with his or her original creation.
Leave people a choice as to what they want to do with their (and I hate this word-combination) "intellectual property".
If the big web silos want to lock up their crap, then let them. No skin of my back.
Right now, we don't have any choice. My comments on this site, are technically copyrighted by me, thus quoting it, would constitute a violation of my copyright (if it was not covered by fair use).
I just want to be able to say: "Ok, this is very important to me, I want this copyrighted, and that stuff, let the public decide what they want to do with it. If they can make something nice with it, all the better for all."
People had to fight hard to get copyright changed in the right way to follow technology trends.
According to Hollywood execs was the VCR the "Boston strangler" for them. And wanted it made illegal. Thankfully, a technology-wise judge decided against them, in favour of the VCR. Sadly this is a lonely case nowadays. It more often than not is becoming more and more expensive to stand up for our rights to copy, and it's far to easy for the copyright holders to just squelch anything that smacks of deviation from their view of how things should be. (A DMCA take-down is so easily done nowadays, it's ridiculous, and then you, the derivative maker will have to show what your intentions were.)
Time and time again, we, the people have had to fight for our rights in the copyright world. And time and time again we have strong forces who want to take those rights away, and want to change copyright law into something even more ridiculous.
Why does it have to take Life (of the copyright holder)+70 years before a work enters public domain? Why can companies become copyright holders?
And when exactly do companies die? We, effectively, have perpetual copyright.
How much actual damage does Viacom suffer from this depiction of the Enterprise D? Other than perhaps extra sales of their products?
Any lawsuit they'd start against this talented designer, would cause more damage (it tarnishes the Viacom brand as being legal bullies). It would serve them better if they'd issue a "proceed-and-permitted order" instead of a 'cease-and-desist order'.
If you would read more about copyright law, you'd know the answer. And that is: it's not FUD.
Copyright law as it stands today is as far removed from our current digital age as can be, and the people who are now making money of that antiquated law, want to keep it that way, or make it even more draconian.
Ever heard of the DMCA? Or ACTA?
Or are you just here to troll?
Don't answer that last question. It was rhetorical.
Re: its still a PAYWALL, or lipstick on a pig.. pay for content is a paywall..
Dear Darryl,
let me tell you about the time that the people here on Techdirt contacted me directly (connecting with fans).
A few weeks ago, I got put on a moderation-needed list, because apparently my company had changed ISPs, and that ISP was notorious for having trolls and such on their network.
So I sent an email describing the problem and asking them what I did wrong.
It turned out that I hadn't done anything wrong and that Mike had seen my posts being stuck in the moderation queue already and the people at TD told me so, and they put me on an exceptions list.
Now, they didn't need to answer my emails, and in that case eventually I'd have grown tired of the moderation queue, and have gone away in search of some other site to talk about copyright issues, where they did want my input. But since they connected with me, they kept me as a fan of the site.
Also, recently I asked Mike a question right here on the blog, and he answered me in a response to that question.
THAT is connecting with fans.
tl;dr:
I had a problem on the site, Mike and co responded to me directly, and made me an even bigger fan of their work than before, more inclined to spend money here.
Let's just see, last year they had a number of packages on sale, but since you weren't here you couldn't have known that.
There was a package where for 1 million US dollars you could shut up Techdirt. So if you really want, you could spend a million to have a year of silence on this blog.
And if you can make cheap copies of the t-shirts and sell them for a quarter of the price here, and you think you have a compelling enough offer so that people would follow you, I don't think Mike would mind. Mind you, since many here think you are a troll, I don't think you'd get a lot of sales using that technique.
A big thing in this is, that people want to support the site/artist/writer/moviemaker, and thus are more inclined to buy the slightly more expensive t-shirts/other tangible products, to make them feel good about it.
But that's something that you don't understand: 'Brand loyalty'.
I ordered both the initial package with the crystal ball and later also the music package, which also contained the crystal ball.
And it was my understanding that that would mean I'd have 2 years of the TD-CB (Techdirt Crystal Ball)
Are you suggesting that I now have 3 years of the TD-CB?
Or do the extra 12 months only apply to people who didn't buy two packages with the TD-CB? :)
To disclaim myself, I'm only curious, and am not expecting anything for free.
But that was the case only with Inception, almost every other big time movie production, that I know of, was on torrent networks before, on the day itself or very shortly after the theater release.
Meanwhile, I'll be watching those movies for free from Bittorrent or some other P2P network in High Def quality, a day before the theater release.
That's why release windows don't make any sense! Because it hampers with what many consumers want.
And P2P networks are more than happy to satisfy that demand.
BTW, I must congratulate the people behind Inception.
It apparently took about 3 weeks before that movie turned up on p2p networks in a decent enough quality. (and before anyone condemns me, I was merely curious how long it would take, I had already watched the movie twice in the cinema)
"the court notes "plaintiffs' failure to register their idea is fatal to their copyright claim."
I know, an idea isn't copyrightable. But apart from that, so, because something wasn't registered as copyright, it was fatal to the claim?
Could we use this defense in other cases too?
"Because {artist} did not register their copyright, their claim that I violated their copyright is therefore void"?
She lost, because she had to ALTER her art. She had to concede to a higher power, in this case the corporate board of Walmart. Which by definition means that she lost.
No, Jill lost. Sure, after the change she could sell the discs in WalMart, but unaltered she could not sell her disc there. Thereby, Walmart limited her creative freedom, hence the word 'censorship'.
On the post: Did The RIAA Really Just Come Out In Support Of 'Opt-In' Copyright? [Updated]
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Be careful what you wish for...
Leave people a choice as to what they want to do with their (and I hate this word-combination) "intellectual property".
If the big web silos want to lock up their crap, then let them. No skin of my back.
Right now, we don't have any choice. My comments on this site, are technically copyrighted by me, thus quoting it, would constitute a violation of my copyright (if it was not covered by fair use).
I just want to be able to say: "Ok, this is very important to me, I want this copyrighted, and that stuff, let the public decide what they want to do with it. If they can make something nice with it, all the better for all."
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On the post: Could The Enterprise D Replica In Minecraft Be A Copyright Minefield?
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On the post: Could The Enterprise D Replica In Minecraft Be A Copyright Minefield?
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According to Hollywood execs was the VCR the "Boston strangler" for them. And wanted it made illegal. Thankfully, a technology-wise judge decided against them, in favour of the VCR. Sadly this is a lonely case nowadays. It more often than not is becoming more and more expensive to stand up for our rights to copy, and it's far to easy for the copyright holders to just squelch anything that smacks of deviation from their view of how things should be. (A DMCA take-down is so easily done nowadays, it's ridiculous, and then you, the derivative maker will have to show what your intentions were.)
Time and time again, we, the people have had to fight for our rights in the copyright world. And time and time again we have strong forces who want to take those rights away, and want to change copyright law into something even more ridiculous.
Why does it have to take Life (of the copyright holder)+70 years before a work enters public domain? Why can companies become copyright holders?
And when exactly do companies die? We, effectively, have perpetual copyright.
On the post: Could The Enterprise D Replica In Minecraft Be A Copyright Minefield?
Re: It's a risk you run when *copying*.
Any lawsuit they'd start against this talented designer, would cause more damage (it tarnishes the Viacom brand as being legal bullies). It would serve them better if they'd issue a "proceed-and-permitted order" instead of a 'cease-and-desist order'.
On the post: Could The Enterprise D Replica In Minecraft Be A Copyright Minefield?
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Copyright law as it stands today is as far removed from our current digital age as can be, and the people who are now making money of that antiquated law, want to keep it that way, or make it even more draconian.
Ever heard of the DMCA? Or ACTA?
Or are you just here to troll?
Don't answer that last question. It was rhetorical.
On the post: Fox Gets Tons Of Attention For Banksy Simpsons Video... Then Pulls It Off YouTube
They could make a similar animation
On the post: Preparing New Techdirt CwF+RtB Offerings, And Extending The Crystal Ball For Those Who Bought
Re: its still a PAYWALL, or lipstick on a pig.. pay for content is a paywall..
let me tell you about the time that the people here on Techdirt contacted me directly (connecting with fans).
A few weeks ago, I got put on a moderation-needed list, because apparently my company had changed ISPs, and that ISP was notorious for having trolls and such on their network.
So I sent an email describing the problem and asking them what I did wrong.
It turned out that I hadn't done anything wrong and that Mike had seen my posts being stuck in the moderation queue already and the people at TD told me so, and they put me on an exceptions list.
Now, they didn't need to answer my emails, and in that case eventually I'd have grown tired of the moderation queue, and have gone away in search of some other site to talk about copyright issues, where they did want my input. But since they connected with me, they kept me as a fan of the site.
Also, recently I asked Mike a question right here on the blog, and he answered me in a response to that question.
THAT is connecting with fans.
tl;dr:
I had a problem on the site, Mike and co responded to me directly, and made me an even bigger fan of their work than before, more inclined to spend money here.
On the post: Preparing New Techdirt CwF+RtB Offerings, And Extending The Crystal Ball For Those Who Bought
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On the post: Preparing New Techdirt CwF+RtB Offerings, And Extending The Crystal Ball For Those Who Bought
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: hmmm ....
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Re: Re: User based themes...
On the post: Preparing New Techdirt CwF+RtB Offerings, And Extending The Crystal Ball For Those Who Bought
Re: What reason to buy again, ??
Let's just see, last year they had a number of packages on sale, but since you weren't here you couldn't have known that.
There was a package where for 1 million US dollars you could shut up Techdirt. So if you really want, you could spend a million to have a year of silence on this blog.
And if you can make cheap copies of the t-shirts and sell them for a quarter of the price here, and you think you have a compelling enough offer so that people would follow you, I don't think Mike would mind. Mind you, since many here think you are a troll, I don't think you'd get a lot of sales using that technique.
A big thing in this is, that people want to support the site/artist/writer/moviemaker, and thus are more inclined to buy the slightly more expensive t-shirts/other tangible products, to make them feel good about it.
But that's something that you don't understand: 'Brand loyalty'.
On the post: Preparing New Techdirt CwF+RtB Offerings, And Extending The Crystal Ball For Those Who Bought
please correct me if I'm wrong
And it was my understanding that that would mean I'd have 2 years of the TD-CB (Techdirt Crystal Ball)
Are you suggesting that I now have 3 years of the TD-CB?
Or do the extra 12 months only apply to people who didn't buy two packages with the TD-CB? :)
To disclaim myself, I'm only curious, and am not expecting anything for free.
On the post: Warner Bros. Claims That Annoying Customers With 28-Day Rental Delay Is Working
Re: Re: Why are you complaining?
On the post: Warner Bros. Claims That Annoying Customers With 28-Day Rental Delay Is Working
Re: Why are you complaining?
That's why release windows don't make any sense! Because it hampers with what many consumers want.
And P2P networks are more than happy to satisfy that demand.
BTW, I must congratulate the people behind Inception.
It apparently took about 3 weeks before that movie turned up on p2p networks in a decent enough quality. (and before anyone condemns me, I was merely curious how long it would take, I had already watched the movie twice in the cinema)
On the post: NBC, BBC, Travel Channel: Not Guilty Of Racketeering For Asking People About Ideas For TV Shows
This surprises me too
I know, an idea isn't copyrightable. But apart from that, so, because something wasn't registered as copyright, it was fatal to the claim?
Could we use this defense in other cases too?
"Because {artist} did not register their copyright, their claim that I violated their copyright is therefore void"?
On the post: Historically Dumb Censorship: Wal-Mart's Refusal To Sell Jill Sobule's Album Due To Prozac Pill
Re: Re: Re: They both got want they wanted
On the post: Historically Dumb Censorship: Wal-Mart's Refusal To Sell Jill Sobule's Album Due To Prozac Pill
Re: Another dumb one
"Oh no no no.. don't mess with my heart"
That's the version I heard on college radio about 5 years ago, instead of "Oh no no no.. don't phunk with my heart" (Black eyed peas)
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Re: They both got want they wanted
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