A service to follow up on news? I'm inclined to pay for that. It might be a Businessmodel for Monetizing the Newspaper Industry. Have the website for breaking news stories and then the deadtree version for the follow up.
Re: Namco is right, but in a rather ham-handed way.
What exactly was taken without permission?
The code? no
The iconic depiction of the pacman and the ghosts? I think that might fall under trademark, but it's that much a part of our culture, that I think Namco will be hard pressed to make that case stick, unless they are willing lose that much free publicity.
The sounds? Perhaps, unless he recreated the sounds himself... but then the game didn't have to be taken offline, and the C&D should've focused on the sounds rather than the game.
because RIAA and the IFPI aren't there to represent the artists, but the industry. And the industry is harmed by actions like Radiohead's... at least that's the perception in the crumbling ivory towers of RIAA and IFPI. They are losing control very fast, control they have grown used to in a very short time. and now they are grasping at straws to keep that control, through bullying tactics, and they don't care about whether it's truthful or respects the artists' wishes.
Suck it Namco.. I'm not buying your shovelware anymore.
The more I read about stories like this, the more I yearn for the day that there is no copyright anymore. It clearly hinders progress. Now arguably, you could say that this PacMan clone is actually a step backwards in time, instead of progress, but it's how this student learns, and who knows he/she might have built some super-awesome game.
I hope that NAMCO's bullying doesn't deter the student to create programs.
To NAMCO, consider me one less buyer.
These bullying lawyers need to be put in check. Go and pick on someone your own size. These provisions in law were put in place so that you could litigate against people who continue to take your copyright after you've asked them to stop...
Instead of firing off this god-awful NASTYgram, NAMCO should have send the student a letter asking him/her nicely to please stop creating/distributing his take on PacMan. But asking nicely has gone to the wayside, apparently. Apparently these big corporations have forgotten the word "please". So until they re-learn that word, they can go pleasure themselves, as far as I'm concerned.
Good point, but if a game isn't available for a certain market, is it so weird that fans of those games remake them for that market? And should those remakes be made illegal too? (any idea how many Tetris clones there are for Linux?)
The other point was that Tetris != BlockOut. Sure both are block-stacking games, but Tetris is front view 2D, and Blockout uses different shaped blocks and has a top-down 3D view.
And in an ideal world, Google would allow the creators of the games to respond to the DMCA takedown notice.
It fails to address the possibility you have with the web and HTML, and that's cross-platform interoperability.
If you go to that website using an Android device (I just tried), you basically get a blank page. Only the header and the sidebar loads, but you can't actually access any of the apps, as none are showing.
Perhaps that's just an oversight that'll be corrected, but somehow I doubt that as the site really is geared towards IOS only.
And to me, that's a huge failure, and a missed opportunity.
The TETRIS company took down a whole lot of Tetris-like clones from the Android Marketplace.
Incidentally, including a number of BlockOut clones (which is the 3d top-down block stacking game) (par example: Blockx3D), that in my humble opinion should not have fallen victim to that particular DMCA take-down notice as it didn't infringe on Tetris' trademarks or copyright.
And Google should allow the counter notice section of the DMCA too, for those game-authors.
How many times do you expect us to debunk those arguments then?
Every few weeks someone new comes along and spout those myths that we have just spent time on debunking with someone else.
You are not the first one to say these, nor will you be the last (unfortunately). At some point those who have been here longer than today, are growing tired of the discussion, as for us, it's no longer worth the discussion, and would much rather discuss what really matters, and that's the future, what's going to happen with copyright tomorrow, rather than debunk whatever falsehood that's being claimed by the newbie of the week. (or worse, the troll of the week, which makes trying to discuss it rather pointless as they will keep on trolling.)
I am not a thief, as copyright infringement is not the same as theft.
Nor am I a communist, as I believe in free markets, in fact it's copyright that's hurting the capitalist free market.
I admit to have downloaded music, books and movies in the past. But I also spend a lot of money on music books and movies that I like. Either through donation to the director directly after my p2p use, if that's possible, or by buying that album or that movie or that book from the source directly if possible, if I really like it.
If you are so interested in the discussion, I'd suggest you use the search engine on this site and look back at previous posts here on the site, where copyright was discussed. You will find great points brought forward by Karl, Nina Paley and many others, often with citations and links to support their statements. It's often the other side, the copyright maximalists that don't support their statements with links and citations.
so, I don't have first sale rights anymore? I bought the cd, don't I own the cd? And by ownership, doesn't that mean I can do with the cd whatever I want?
I buy a bookcase from IKEA... do I not have the right to hack it to pieces and use it as firewood? Do I not have the right to repurpose said bookcase to make a nightstand out of it? Do I not have the right to resell that bookcase to my neighbour? Do I not have the right to copy of that bookcase and sell that copy to my neighbour?
So, why then is it suddenly different with 'creative content'?
I had the Shazam app installed on my Android phone, but I have now uninstalled it, and left a 1 star review of the app.
And then I donated to mr. Van Rijn's paypal account.
If Landmark decides to abuse patent law, then they don't deserve my business, nor my ad-impressions.
Incidentally, I think it's funny that they dared to claim that they filed patents in NL too, AFAIK software patents aren't enforceable in NL. Good luck Landmark, but Shazam just gotten a HUGE black eye, and I won't be installing it ever again.
Very Annoyed at this TAM (profile), 8 Jul 2010 @ 7:38am
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Do you ever donate to charity? Do you expect anything in return?
Do you ever do any community work? Oh wait, no, you don't, you just like to troll on the sideline. Go F4 yourself.
actually I quite enjoyed listening to Radio Wimbledon using my phone, mostly because I had no other way... but still it was rather enjoyable to listen to it. A bit of a pain to get it set up though (as it was a flash player that would lose connection as soon as the screen blanked out, but luckily my phone stays on when you plug in the adapter).
The Danish Department of Justice? They don't have any jurisdiction over NL.
Just because Danish looks a bit like Dutch, doesn't mean they are the same. :)
More on topic.
FINALLY! We've been saying for years that BREIN is not law enforcement, despite their grandstanding and them overstepping their boundaries. Let's hope BREIN gets slapped hard. They need to be put back in their place.
Next thing I hope will happen, is that industry groups are no longer allowed to set taxes on products. (Our blank media tax doesn't go to the state, but rather to an industry group)
The app market is a fraction of users of app-capable devices. And even that market is fragmented, as an Ipad app can't run on an Android device and vice versa.
And most apps there are in the impulse-buy price-range. I don't think hard for an app that costs me 1 or 2 euros. But for an app that costs me more than 10 euros, I do think twice. And hard, because what exactly am I buying? What do I get in return for that 10 bucks that I can't get anywhere else?
The internet has loads more users, somewhere in the billions. The market is a lot larger there.
And yes indeed, paywalls on the web are hard to do, but the same holds true for paid apps.
Besides all that, the internet is first and foremost a communication medium. If you add paywalls or put content only in apps, you are removing yourself from that communication. People can't share links to your stories, thus you are losing those chance-visitors, the ones you'd otherwise won't have.
That is why we are saying that you're not getting it.
Indeed, we don't know exactly how the future will go, but we can make an educated guess based on what happened in the past.
Paywalls will only work if ALL newspapers (world-wide) were to do that. Good luck, that's rather like herding cats. As there will always be a player that sees more possibilities with ad-revenue, especially if the other players are taking themselves off the board.
Same with apps.
Why would I, as a consumer, pay for something I can get elsewhere for free(gratis)?
Don't forget, even the all-hallowed Ipad has a browser built-in. Same with Android devices.
You have the right to get your driver's license, do you not? Does the government give you a free car?
You have the right to live in a house (one of the basic human rights even), but you still need to pay rent/mortgage/taxes.
You have the right to an education (also one of the basic human rights), but do you have free schools?
All this does, is give you the right to have unfettered access to the Internet. Even the most remote areas of Finland should now get access to the Internet.
No-one is stating that it can only happen off school.. I KNOW that it can happen during school hours, and when it happens during school hours, it's the responsibility of the school. As they have the legal care during school hours of the kids that are in class.
Same as with after work bullying. Your boss has no say in your private life. If it happens in the office, it's his deal, outside of the officehours, it's a job for the police.
making it clear that these tactics will not be tolerated in school would not be a bad move.
But the actions weren't during school hours. So, where does the school come in?
If we'd work for the same company, and I'd start pestering you after working hours, do you step to the boss to complain? Or to the proper authorities?
In this case, the parents are the proper authorities, it was done during their supervision.
Believe me, I've had to endure a lot of bullying in my time, so, in a way, I'm an expert on this. If it's done during school hours, then yes, the principal should act. If it's done AFTER school, it's the parents problem and they should work it out.
PERIOD!
The public won't always be so lenient to allow content creators the right to have a monopoly over their works, especially not, if that means that the rights of the public gets trampled in the process time and again.
Copyright is a two-way street in a pedestrian zone (we, the public, allow you, the content creator, to have a monopoly on something that you created, for a limited time. In exchange, after that limited time is up, that work you created becomes public domain, free to be archived, remixed, reworked into other works, stand on the shoulders of giants and all),
that's being treated as a one way highway for copyright holders (we, the copyright holders own this imaginary, sorry intellectual property, and you have to ask for permission for every action you want to do with our property even after you've given us money for it).
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...BMNI...
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Re: Namco is right, but in a rather ham-handed way.
The code? no
The iconic depiction of the pacman and the ghosts? I think that might fall under trademark, but it's that much a part of our culture, that I think Namco will be hard pressed to make that case stick, unless they are willing lose that much free publicity.
The sounds? Perhaps, unless he recreated the sounds himself... but then the game didn't have to be taken offline, and the C&D should've focused on the sounds rather than the game.
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Simple answer
On the post: NAMCO Demands Takedown Of Pacman Game Created By Kid Using MIT's Scratch Programming Language
Suck it Namco.. I'm not buying your shovelware anymore.
I hope that NAMCO's bullying doesn't deter the student to create programs.
To NAMCO, consider me one less buyer.
These bullying lawyers need to be put in check. Go and pick on someone your own size. These provisions in law were put in place so that you could litigate against people who continue to take your copyright after you've asked them to stop...
Instead of firing off this god-awful NASTYgram, NAMCO should have send the student a letter asking him/her nicely to please stop creating/distributing his take on PacMan. But asking nicely has gone to the wayside, apparently. Apparently these big corporations have forgotten the word "please". So until they re-learn that word, they can go pleasure themselves, as far as I'm concerned.
On the post: Copyright Getting In The Way Of Preserving Video Game History
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The other point was that Tetris != BlockOut. Sure both are block-stacking games, but Tetris is front view 2D, and Blockout uses different shaped blocks and has a top-down 3D view.
And in an ideal world, Google would allow the creators of the games to respond to the DMCA takedown notice.
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That site has one big thorn
If you go to that website using an Android device (I just tried), you basically get a blank page. Only the header and the sidebar loads, but you can't actually access any of the apps, as none are showing.
Perhaps that's just an oversight that'll be corrected, but somehow I doubt that as the site really is geared towards IOS only.
And to me, that's a huge failure, and a missed opportunity.
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Incidentally, including a number of BlockOut clones (which is the 3d top-down block stacking game) (par example: Blockx3D), that in my humble opinion should not have fallen victim to that particular DMCA take-down notice as it didn't infringe on Tetris' trademarks or copyright.
And Google should allow the counter notice section of the DMCA too, for those game-authors.
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Every few weeks someone new comes along and spout those myths that we have just spent time on debunking with someone else.
You are not the first one to say these, nor will you be the last (unfortunately). At some point those who have been here longer than today, are growing tired of the discussion, as for us, it's no longer worth the discussion, and would much rather discuss what really matters, and that's the future, what's going to happen with copyright tomorrow, rather than debunk whatever falsehood that's being claimed by the newbie of the week. (or worse, the troll of the week, which makes trying to discuss it rather pointless as they will keep on trolling.)
I am not a thief, as copyright infringement is not the same as theft.
Nor am I a communist, as I believe in free markets, in fact it's copyright that's hurting the capitalist free market.
I admit to have downloaded music, books and movies in the past. But I also spend a lot of money on music books and movies that I like. Either through donation to the director directly after my p2p use, if that's possible, or by buying that album or that movie or that book from the source directly if possible, if I really like it.
If you are so interested in the discussion, I'd suggest you use the search engine on this site and look back at previous posts here on the site, where copyright was discussed. You will find great points brought forward by Karl, Nina Paley and many others, often with citations and links to support their statements. It's often the other side, the copyright maximalists that don't support their statements with links and citations.
On the post: Composer Jason Robert Brown Still Standing By His Position That Kids Sharing His Music Are Immoral
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I buy a bookcase from IKEA... do I not have the right to hack it to pieces and use it as firewood? Do I not have the right to repurpose said bookcase to make a nightstand out of it? Do I not have the right to resell that bookcase to my neighbour? Do I not have the right to copy of that bookcase and sell that copy to my neighbour?
So, why then is it suddenly different with 'creative content'?
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btw, ever been to a curry place in the UK? Hardly bland.
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uninstalled+1star review
And then I donated to mr. Van Rijn's paypal account.
If Landmark decides to abuse patent law, then they don't deserve my business, nor my ad-impressions.
Incidentally, I think it's funny that they dared to claim that they filed patents in NL too, AFAIK software patents aren't enforceable in NL. Good luck Landmark, but Shazam just gotten a HUGE black eye, and I won't be installing it ever again.
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Do you ever do any community work? Oh wait, no, you don't, you just like to troll on the sideline. Go F4 yourself.
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Just because Danish looks a bit like Dutch, doesn't mean they are the same. :)
More on topic.
FINALLY! We've been saying for years that BREIN is not law enforcement, despite their grandstanding and them overstepping their boundaries. Let's hope BREIN gets slapped hard. They need to be put back in their place.
Next thing I hope will happen, is that industry groups are no longer allowed to set taxes on products. (Our blank media tax doesn't go to the state, but rather to an industry group)
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And most apps there are in the impulse-buy price-range. I don't think hard for an app that costs me 1 or 2 euros. But for an app that costs me more than 10 euros, I do think twice. And hard, because what exactly am I buying? What do I get in return for that 10 bucks that I can't get anywhere else?
The internet has loads more users, somewhere in the billions. The market is a lot larger there.
And yes indeed, paywalls on the web are hard to do, but the same holds true for paid apps.
Besides all that, the internet is first and foremost a communication medium. If you add paywalls or put content only in apps, you are removing yourself from that communication. People can't share links to your stories, thus you are losing those chance-visitors, the ones you'd otherwise won't have.
That is why we are saying that you're not getting it.
Indeed, we don't know exactly how the future will go, but we can make an educated guess based on what happened in the past.
Paywalls will only work if ALL newspapers (world-wide) were to do that. Good luck, that's rather like herding cats. As there will always be a player that sees more possibilities with ad-revenue, especially if the other players are taking themselves off the board.
Same with apps.
Why would I, as a consumer, pay for something I can get elsewhere for free(gratis)?
Don't forget, even the all-hallowed Ipad has a browser built-in. Same with Android devices.
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You have the right to live in a house (one of the basic human rights even), but you still need to pay rent/mortgage/taxes.
You have the right to an education (also one of the basic human rights), but do you have free schools?
All this does, is give you the right to have unfettered access to the Internet. Even the most remote areas of Finland should now get access to the Internet.
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Same as with after work bullying. Your boss has no say in your private life. If it happens in the office, it's his deal, outside of the officehours, it's a job for the police.
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But the actions weren't during school hours. So, where does the school come in?
If we'd work for the same company, and I'd start pestering you after working hours, do you step to the boss to complain? Or to the proper authorities?
In this case, the parents are the proper authorities, it was done during their supervision.
Believe me, I've had to endure a lot of bullying in my time, so, in a way, I'm an expert on this. If it's done during school hours, then yes, the principal should act. If it's done AFTER school, it's the parents problem and they should work it out.
PERIOD!
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The public won't always be so lenient to allow content creators the right to have a monopoly over their works, especially not, if that means that the rights of the public gets trampled in the process time and again.
Copyright is a two-way street in a pedestrian zone (we, the public, allow you, the content creator, to have a monopoly on something that you created, for a limited time. In exchange, after that limited time is up, that work you created becomes public domain, free to be archived, remixed, reworked into other works, stand on the shoulders of giants and all),
that's being treated as a one way highway for copyright holders (we, the copyright holders own this imaginary, sorry intellectual property, and you have to ask for permission for every action you want to do with our property even after you've given us money for it).
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