This is the fastest way to change this mess. The middlemen are being brought into the loop by the artists, not the consumers. The law stops us from taking them back out (in theory).
Personally, I want them to keep playing this whac-a-mole game. It is effectively doing nothing at all to solve the "problem", and the longer it takes them to figure that out, the longer before they try something even more ridiculous. (And probably invasive)
Unless/until Google starts showing some restraint/respect I won't use any of their services, nor will I recommend them to anyone else. Unfortunately it will take laws, laws with real teeth, to get Google to start acting responsibly.
No, it will take exactly what you're doing. If everyone felt as you, then Google would go out of business or be forced to change.
I visit a website with google ads, I am using their service.
No, the site is.
I watch a video on youtube, I am using their service.
Don't go to youtube. Problem solved.
I call someone on the phone, it happens to be a google phone number. I am using their service.
No, Google is not VOIP (yet), and you are still using your telco provider's service. If you require futher dumbing down, try using google voice without a telco.
Now if they start an isp, when I chat with my friends I might be using their service.
I assume you're equally up in arms about "using" AT&T, Comcast, etc?
Heck, any number of websites that you visit in a day may be served off their cloud computing service.
They are. You are not.
Pretty much it is impossible to NOT use their service, and you know they log every little bit of it.
I do? No, I don't. Please show me something (no tin foil, please) that says they "log every little bit".
Sorry, but they are the borg, and they know way more about you than you would like.
They only know what info you give them. Don't give them your info and you don't have to worry about it. Personally, I like it.
Your computer can easily convert your CD to MP3 files at whatever level you want them
My scanner can easily scan a book to pdf format for my ebook reader. The point is that my only disc player is my computer that came with my laptop and it hasn't been powered up in a year. I see no reason to give me an extra step to the process. When everyone buys tomatoes and chops them up what do you do? You sell chopped tomatoes. It's not rocket science.
The disc is dead. So, now they have no physical good to sell, and it's a though pill to swallow paying a dollar to teach my computer to arrange 1's and 0's so my media player can synthesize music. They hate it, but we don't care.
No, but if I built something and tried to sell it to someone and they turned it down, that doesn't mean I still get paid. It means I made an investment and it didn't pan out for whatever reason.
If a musician makes music and records it and no one likes it (or is otherwise not willing to meet his price point), it's not the system that failed him, it's he that has failed the system.
That is how it works. Not everyone that *wants* to be a musician *can* be a musician.
In many ways, it is the difference between seeing a new movie on debut night with some friends in a crowded theater, and watching it at home 12 months later by yourself. The experience is different, it certainly isn't shared.
You are now defending the position that Mike has held for some time now, that piracy isn't bad, it's free promotion and true fans want the "extra" experience.
I dunno, whale blubber is good, but I still like comparing buying recorded music to buying ice.
When the only way to get ice was to buy it, sure people paid a pretty penny for it; Now that anyone can make ice at home, the only people who buy it are people/companies in niche markets. Should be have legislated the refrigerator out of existence so a few large companies could keep their business model?
There is one thing missing in your CwF equation, which is "get fans".
Allow me to break it down for you, my friend.
First, to get fans, one must have talent and creativity. I'd like to point out that this is where many, many "big name" bands fail, and why they so fear the future. Now that you have your talent (via natural ability or hours of practice) and your creativity (I don't know if you can learn that part, sorry Nickelback!) you need to show it off to as many people as possible, because the more people that know of your talent, the more fans you'll have to connect with.
How does one show off one's talent, you ask? Well, there's open mic nights, or knowing someone with a bar who can get you a gig at a local bar-- those are traditional routes that are often limited by location and luck. Also, since the creation of the internet, and to some degree bit torrent, there is a third option that will both expose you (not like that, ya perv!) to a greater number of people and it is directly proportional to your talent. If you haven't guessed by now: giving your music (or other type of infinitely reproducible art) away, assuming you have talent, will net you the largest number of fans in the shortest about of time with the least amount of work.
Here's how. You write a song, your record it (probably not recording studio quality at this point, but it's getting cheaper and cheaper) and then you share it on bit torrent. Someone downloads it and tells their friends how kickass you are. (remember the assumption) These friends download your music and *regardless on if the music is to their taste or not* they can now recommend your music to someone they think will like it. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Now you have all these people who want to know about this new guy who can really rock out on the bongos and so they search online for you. If you're smart you have a web site, or even a twitter, myspace or facebook page (though, I hope the former!) you can now connect with the fans.
You now have many eager eyes (or, more aptly, ears) pointed in your direction. What you do with it is up to you, but if you fail to give them a reason to give you money, then that's your failing, not theirs.
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Well, artists, what's it gonna be?
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On the post: Missed Use Case? Google Buzz Reveals Who You Chat With The Most To Everyone
Re: That's why I only use Google for search.
No, it will take exactly what you're doing. If everyone felt as you, then Google would go out of business or be forced to change.
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I'm not sure I believe them when they say they delete my history when I ask with that privacy dashboard thing.
You trust them with you email, but not that they delete your search history? Get a new email provider. Problem solved.
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I visit a website with google ads, I am using their service.
No, the site is.
I watch a video on youtube, I am using their service.
Don't go to youtube. Problem solved.
I call someone on the phone, it happens to be a google phone number. I am using their service.
No, Google is not VOIP (yet), and you are still using your telco provider's service. If you require futher dumbing down, try using google voice without a telco.
Now if they start an isp, when I chat with my friends I might be using their service.
I assume you're equally up in arms about "using" AT&T, Comcast, etc?
Heck, any number of websites that you visit in a day may be served off their cloud computing service.
They are. You are not.
Pretty much it is impossible to NOT use their service, and you know they log every little bit of it.
I do? No, I don't. Please show me something (no tin foil, please) that says they "log every little bit".
Sorry, but they are the borg, and they know way more about you than you would like.
They only know what info you give them. Don't give them your info and you don't have to worry about it. Personally, I like it.
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Re: Re: RtB
My scanner can easily scan a book to pdf format for my ebook reader. The point is that my only disc player is my computer that came with my laptop and it hasn't been powered up in a year. I see no reason to give me an extra step to the process. When everyone buys tomatoes and chops them up what do you do? You sell chopped tomatoes. It's not rocket science.
The disc is dead. So, now they have no physical good to sell, and it's a though pill to swallow paying a dollar to teach my computer to arrange 1's and 0's so my media player can synthesize music. They hate it, but we don't care.
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If a musician makes music and records it and no one likes it (or is otherwise not willing to meet his price point), it's not the system that failed him, it's he that has failed the system.
That is how it works. Not everyone that *wants* to be a musician *can* be a musician.
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You are now defending the position that Mike has held for some time now, that piracy isn't bad, it's free promotion and true fans want the "extra" experience.
What happens when Mike and TAM agree?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: People waited long.
Licensing.
Licensing is the tool, greed is the motivation.
On the post: Boring Case Against Google Revived... Just A Bit
Re: The public
So, if I sue you for your comment in the order of $50,000 due to "psychological distress" you won't ask me to show actual damages?
Sweet.
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Disclaimer
and wouldn't that clear this all up? I'm confused.
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Re: Social networking or "BIG BROTHER"
You never leave your house? The world is a dangerous place-- it's better to just lie down and wait for death-- better safe than sorry, right?
/sarcmark
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Re: iphone
Droids does "corrections" on the fly. :/
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Enjoy.
On the post: Brian Eno Explains How The Recording Industry Is Like Whale Blubber
Meh
When the only way to get ice was to buy it, sure people paid a pretty penny for it; Now that anyone can make ice at home, the only people who buy it are people/companies in niche markets. Should be have legislated the refrigerator out of existence so a few large companies could keep their business model?
But, hey, if whale blubber floats your boat... :)
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Allow me to break it down for you, my friend.
First, to get fans, one must have talent and creativity. I'd like to point out that this is where many, many "big name" bands fail, and why they so fear the future. Now that you have your talent (via natural ability or hours of practice) and your creativity (I don't know if you can learn that part, sorry Nickelback!) you need to show it off to as many people as possible, because the more people that know of your talent, the more fans you'll have to connect with.
How does one show off one's talent, you ask? Well, there's open mic nights, or knowing someone with a bar who can get you a gig at a local bar-- those are traditional routes that are often limited by location and luck. Also, since the creation of the internet, and to some degree bit torrent, there is a third option that will both expose you (not like that, ya perv!) to a greater number of people and it is directly proportional to your talent. If you haven't guessed by now: giving your music (or other type of infinitely reproducible art) away, assuming you have talent, will net you the largest number of fans in the shortest about of time with the least amount of work.
Here's how. You write a song, your record it (probably not recording studio quality at this point, but it's getting cheaper and cheaper) and then you share it on bit torrent. Someone downloads it and tells their friends how kickass you are. (remember the assumption) These friends download your music and *regardless on if the music is to their taste or not* they can now recommend your music to someone they think will like it. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Now you have all these people who want to know about this new guy who can really rock out on the bongos and so they search online for you. If you're smart you have a web site, or even a twitter, myspace or facebook page (though, I hope the former!) you can now connect with the fans.
You now have many eager eyes (or, more aptly, ears) pointed in your direction. What you do with it is up to you, but if you fail to give them a reason to give you money, then that's your failing, not theirs.
Any more questions?
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It's your birth certificate.
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