How about: google was in bed with the DOJ, and agreed _freely_ not to talk about this, as long as they could later act as if they were unwilling.
What's interesting about this theory is that there is no possible evidence that could convince you it's not true.
Even if it is true, so what? Google is a business. It's nominally controlled by Brin and Paige, and they're controlled by stockholders. Businesses don't need to care about morality and ethics. That's for humans, not businesses. If they do care about them, it's because it's good for business (PR).
I like and respect Brin and Paige, but that's irrelevant as far as the corp Google's concerned. Google's job is to make money for its shareholders while staying within the law. It's hardly their fault that the regime in power at the moment happens to be verging on tyranical.
I could just as easily speculate that the system is to broken to fix and decaying faster than reform could be implemented, and that the suffering of the people is extreme enough to fuel a revolution for centuries if need be.
At this point, I'm just grateful it's a slow motion train wreck. I'm planning to be dead before it all finally comes to a sickening halt. You young 'uns are not so blessed, sadly.
... hold their grip on power mostly through manipulation of the public narrative.
Nope, not at all. It's done through the manipulation of campaign funding.
I doubt that the NY Times, WaPo, or LA Times are much affected by campaign funding. There's lots of stuff that's broken, including the MSM having been captured by gov't functionaries, and campaign financing. The FEC itself admits it's incapable of enforcing honest elections. Add in gerrymandered to death constituencies and apathetic to a fault voters (if they're even allowed to vote), and we'll never dig our way out of this hole.
Be careful, citizen. Your use of the blanket word "criminals" could be construed to imply you're downplaying the fact that that word contains within it kiddy-fiddlers, terrorists, and illicit drugs. You wouldn't want to be misunderstood.
“The only people who benefit [from a comment] are the other side,
The "other side" in this case being the general public!
No, he believes the general public are on his side, and he's correct. Since nobody wants to tell the public what they're really doing, how would they know to object?
At one time apparently, someone sold a vacuum cleaner that went by the name "Vax" ("Vax really sucks!" :-), which would go really well with the "Hoover" motif we have going on here in the colonies.
How DEC got ahold of the name Vax (VAX/VMS), I have no idea.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: THE government hasn't been behaving as OUR government for decades.
They outlawed tumbling bullets for the same reason, for causing more damage than a rifled bullet. It's merely convenient that rifled bullets are far more accurate than tumbling bullets, but that's irrelevant, yes?
... the government could grant administration of the DNS root to a different organization.
I nominate the IETF. I wish they'd just summon up the will power and take it. They're the only org that appears to know how it all works right down to the nitty gritty level, and ICANN (those in charge of it) wouldn't have a clue what happened nor how to get it back.
They just really like having a giant black marker.
They just really think you're better off not knowing about the gory details. You're safer that way. They might confuse you into believing impure thoughts.
And it's not exactly like Congress is in control either.
What of the "Establishment" in the US is "in control", as in "under the control of the citizenry?" They're controlled by campaign funding donations, not by the needs of citizens.
Stories like this would be far more entertaining, and possibly less mindblowing, if you'd first search and replace "DoJ" with "Gestapo." Call a spade a fsckin' shovel.
ITYM 1984. Big Brother had a plan and procedures worked out to implement said plan. ICANN is just another loose cannon, rolling around beneath decks, smashing into whatever's in its way, grasping at things it considers shiny. Leviathan.
Very funny. You're not taking this at all seriously. Even with all the Big Brother Canada might raise up against anyone, that would be a drop in the bucket compared to what the US could marshal against those like him.
Canada is still very much largely empty. Look at Labrador. There's plenty of places in this country you could go and never see another human being, assuming you've fuel to last the winter and Deet to last the bug season.
No it's not. They may have intended that, but they're incompetent. He may not have a computer, yet they tell him to stay away from social media sites. Great, all he needs is Tails Linux on a USB key and an internet cafe, and he'll be the next recruiter or publicist for IS, untraceably so.
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Re: Re: How about
Even if it is true, so what? Google is a business. It's nominally controlled by Brin and Paige, and they're controlled by stockholders. Businesses don't need to care about morality and ethics. That's for humans, not businesses. If they do care about them, it's because it's good for business (PR).
I like and respect Brin and Paige, but that's irrelevant as far as the corp Google's concerned. Google's job is to make money for its shareholders while staying within the law. It's hardly their fault that the regime in power at the moment happens to be verging on tyranical.
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Re: That just indicates a lack of creativity.
At this point, I'm just grateful it's a slow motion train wreck. I'm planning to be dead before it all finally comes to a sickening halt. You young 'uns are not so blessed, sadly.
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Re: Re: Moving On
I doubt that the NY Times, WaPo, or LA Times are much affected by campaign funding. There's lots of stuff that's broken, including the MSM having been captured by gov't functionaries, and campaign financing. The FEC itself admits it's incapable of enforcing honest elections. Add in gerrymandered to death constituencies and apathetic to a fault voters (if they're even allowed to vote), and we'll never dig our way out of this hole.
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Doubleplusgood.
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Re: The other side
No, he believes the general public are on his side, and he's correct. Since nobody wants to tell the public what they're really doing, how would they know to object?
Tyranny through obscurity?
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Yes, we who've yet to be charged with having committed a crime. We simply must be patient while they work on that small detail.
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Re: A few that come to mind
How DEC got ahold of the name Vax (VAX/VMS), I have no idea.
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I nominate the IETF. I wish they'd just summon up the will power and take it. They're the only org that appears to know how it all works right down to the nitty gritty level, and ICANN (those in charge of it) wouldn't have a clue what happened nor how to get it back.
Problem solved.
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Re: example
The RCMP are not to blame here. They are merely the enforcers. They follow orders from the court and politicians.
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Re: Lets just face it...
They just really think you're better off not knowing about the gory details. You're safer that way. They might confuse you into believing impure thoughts.
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Re: DoJ is Judicial Branch
What of the "Establishment" in the US is "in control", as in "under the control of the citizenry?" They're controlled by campaign funding donations, not by the needs of citizens.
You (and we) are mere pawns in their eyes.
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Just a suggestion ...
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The butt hurt is strong with this one.
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ITYM 1984. Big Brother had a plan and procedures worked out to implement said plan. ICANN is just another loose cannon, rolling around beneath decks, smashing into whatever's in its way, grasping at things it considers shiny. Leviathan.
Bravo, USA! Good job. Mission accomplished!
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Very funny. You're not taking this at all seriously. Even with all the Big Brother Canada might raise up against anyone, that would be a drop in the bucket compared to what the US could marshal against those like him.
Canada is still very much largely empty. Look at Labrador. There's plenty of places in this country you could go and never see another human being, assuming you've fuel to last the winter and Deet to last the bug season.
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Re: Religious counselling??
Likely, they're only treating extremist (Jihadist) expressions as potentially dangerous. The rest of those nutbars are considered tamed.
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Re: That *is* prison
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