'Firstly, it is not a list of "signs of" copyright infringement but a list of "examples of"'
You're complaining that he used a more appropriate word? I agree. The headline should have read: 'Boston College Tells Students That Using A Wireless Router Is An Example Of Copyright Infringement'. That headline would much better illustrate the stupidity of Boston College.
"Secondly, it doesn't even say that using a wireless router is an example of copyright infringement."
Didn't you tell us in the previous paragraph that it was a list of examples of copyright infringement? The context implies that using a router is an example. The use of a semi colon highlights the fact that the two halves of the sentence are independent clauses. If they didn't mean to imply that using a wireless router was infringement then they should have used a comma or linked the clauses. You can't just ignore the grammar and pretend that the sentence is unambiguous.
"You aren't actually stupid or illiterate or blind, you are just faking it to try and justify your deliberate out-of-context mangling and misinterpretation of perfectly plain English."
Uh, you seem to be lacking a motive for your devilish plot to pull the wool over our eyes. Aside from which, what does that make me for agreeing with him? Do I get to play the part of co-conspirator or are you going to suggest that I'm stupid, illiterate or blind? By the way, you do realise that blind people who use computers tend to use these wonderful things called screen readers and are as capable of understanding the issue at hand as a sighted person, don't you? But hey, what's belittling people with disabilities compared to a conspiracy against a college.
"#gladwelllogic: Protests and revolutions have happened with both rich and poor technologies to facilitate them. Therefore, we cannot assume that the lack of these technologies would prevent these movements from happening. Big revolutions seem to be fostered by strong relationships among revolutionaries, which may be facilitated by, but are not necessarily created by, social networks."
If only he'd said that. You'd think that as a writer he'd be better able to express himself.
"Mr. Z = Sir Fred Goodwin, former Royal Bank of Scotland chief"
I'm almost certain that's a separate story. I can find at least two stories that better fit the circumstances (misappropriations of family trust funds and allegations of sexual abuse), though I'm not certain either of those are the ones this injunction is referring to.
"I wonder what sort of comments would have come if someone that was totally pro file sharing had gotten this job. someone like Rick Falkvinge, for example. that would have been interesting!"
Ah yes, someone who lobbied for companies who directly profit from stronger copyright is the same as someone who (AFAIK) didn't lobby for any companies at all. I suggest reading up on what regulatory capture is.
"They gather all the evidence they can and present their case. I'm not sure I really understand your question."
The question is how can there be a preponderance of evidence identifying the IP address holder as the infringer, if there is evidence that anyone within wireless range could have committed the infringement?
"The only thing i can say is was meant to be sort'a tongue-in-cheek (i thought it was obvious, obviously not)"
Welcome to the internet, where humour is required to wear an identity tag at all times.
I know that you were joking, I was just a little miffed with your other comment where it seemed to me that you were poking fun at the writer of this study for no good reason. By the end of the comment I found the humour was so heavy that I had trouble working out what you were trying to say, which is why I didn't expand my reply. That might be a sign of my inability to understand things or that overusing humour can be confusing, I'm not in a position to judge which.
"The music industry has always embraced technology and new social trends, and continues to do so today. Go to any of the social network sites, itunes, amazon, or some of the streaming sites and see for yourself."
Yes, I agree. The music industry has always embraced technology and new social trends. I'd like to see evidence that the recording industry has too, though. Even the smaller labels are a mixed bag when it comes to technology.
You mention iTunes, which was originally crippled by labels insistence on DRM. Both iTunes and Amazon MP3 came years after the industry decided to sue Napster and neither originated from the industry itself. Prominent people in the industry express regret at how they handled Napster. The industry has done it's best to kill off popular streaming sites and has imposed region restrictions on many independent services.
Even today, iTunes and Amazon MP3 offer inferior products to CDs and the industry is trying to extort money from ISPs for letting people access their content.
"Maybe you can do a better job of explaining Mike's blatant and hilarious contradictions than he did, because all he did was punt and resort to personal insults"
Personal insults like "no one can talk out of both sides of his mouth better"? Oh, wait, that was you. I notice that you didn't provide any actual information, data or evidence to back up your position this time either. Just as Mike observed.
What are you referring to? You don't appear to have refuted my quoted statement. In fact, you seem to be explaining why you don't believe Prince's work is art.
"Actually, royalties are the way of paying for ceded control"
From Wikipedia (emphasis mine): "Since the Copyright Act of 1909, in the United States there has been a right to record a version of someone else's tune, whether of music alone or of music and lyrics.[6] A license can be specifically negotiated between representatives of the interpreting artist and the copyright holder, or recording of published tunes can fall under a mechanical license whereby the recording artist pays a standard royalty to the original author/copyright holder through an organization such as the Harry Fox Agency, and is safe under copyright law even if they do not have any permission from the original author."
Maybe if the artist was alive in 1909 then you might argue that they ceded control.
"Mike is trying to compare to music, but the comparison isn't fair because there is a performance component that isn't present in copying photographs"
If there is a performance component to taking a photograph then there is a comparable component to sticking a Hitler moustache on a photograph. Both are taking what is already there and making choices about how to present them. Arguably, taking a photograph doesn't even add anything to the subject of the photograph, it is reliant solely on composition of the shot for expression.
"10 musicians can play the same song, and each one is a unique performance"
10 artists can stick things on a photograph, and each one is a unique performance.
"Plus each of Mike's examples are music which is substantially different in performance than the originals cited, with much added, removed, and changed in composition and performance."
But that isn't a requirement, is it? A musician can choose to recreate another performance of a song to the best accuracy of their ability.
'But even to an untrained eye, you can see that his "work" is mostly a copy of the other work, with no variation in presentation or performance.'
Unless you count the performance of sticking bits on, which vary the presentation somewhat.
"To be blunt, they didn't want it to be restricted. Actually, it was the opposite."
Copyright was used to control access to the bible, although obviously not by the originators. A notable fact about the American Revolution was that it allowed America to breach royal copyright on the King James Bible.
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You're complaining that he used a more appropriate word? I agree. The headline should have read: 'Boston College Tells Students That Using A Wireless Router Is An Example Of Copyright Infringement'. That headline would much better illustrate the stupidity of Boston College.
"Secondly, it doesn't even say that using a wireless router is an example of copyright infringement."
Didn't you tell us in the previous paragraph that it was a list of examples of copyright infringement? The context implies that using a router is an example. The use of a semi colon highlights the fact that the two halves of the sentence are independent clauses. If they didn't mean to imply that using a wireless router was infringement then they should have used a comma or linked the clauses. You can't just ignore the grammar and pretend that the sentence is unambiguous.
"You aren't actually stupid or illiterate or blind, you are just faking it to try and justify your deliberate out-of-context mangling and misinterpretation of perfectly plain English."
Uh, you seem to be lacking a motive for your devilish plot to pull the wool over our eyes. Aside from which, what does that make me for agreeing with him? Do I get to play the part of co-conspirator or are you going to suggest that I'm stupid, illiterate or blind? By the way, you do realise that blind people who use computers tend to use these wonderful things called screen readers and are as capable of understanding the issue at hand as a sighted person, don't you? But hey, what's belittling people with disabilities compared to a conspiracy against a college.
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If only he'd said that. You'd think that as a writer he'd be better able to express himself.
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Thanks for that. Here's the original blog: http://guernseytrustvictims.blogspot.com/
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I'm almost certain that's a separate story. I can find at least two stories that better fit the circumstances (misappropriations of family trust funds and allegations of sexual abuse), though I'm not certain either of those are the ones this injunction is referring to.
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Was that intentional? I'm clicking funny anyway.
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No, generally all the training and experience setting up Cisco IOS devices through the command line allows me to just wing it.
"Sounds like you need to."
Be specific. I know you don't like to, but people can't read your mind. Why do I need to?
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It means Dark Helmet riled them up so much that they can't type straight.
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You do realise that not all feminists are women, don't you?
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Ah yes, someone who lobbied for companies who directly profit from stronger copyright is the same as someone who (AFAIK) didn't lobby for any companies at all. I suggest reading up on what regulatory capture is.
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#GladwellLogic: There was philosophy before Plato existed, therefore Plato had no impact on philosophy
A (historical protests)
B (development of efficient communication tools)
C (contemporary protests)
Because A happened and is similar to C, B did not cause/impact C.
He may be right about B not causing C, but A does not prove that. A proves that A can happen without B, not that C can happen without B.
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Ha ha at Xtranormal thinking Ha was an abbreviation for hectare.
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The question is how can there be a preponderance of evidence identifying the IP address holder as the infringer, if there is evidence that anyone within wireless range could have committed the infringement?
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Then stop comparing it to the rest of the world so that you can see how bad it really is.
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Welcome to the internet, where humour is required to wear an identity tag at all times.
I know that you were joking, I was just a little miffed with your other comment where it seemed to me that you were poking fun at the writer of this study for no good reason. By the end of the comment I found the humour was so heavy that I had trouble working out what you were trying to say, which is why I didn't expand my reply. That might be a sign of my inability to understand things or that overusing humour can be confusing, I'm not in a position to judge which.
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Yes, I agree. The music industry has always embraced technology and new social trends. I'd like to see evidence that the recording industry has too, though. Even the smaller labels are a mixed bag when it comes to technology.
You mention iTunes, which was originally crippled by labels insistence on DRM. Both iTunes and Amazon MP3 came years after the industry decided to sue Napster and neither originated from the industry itself. Prominent people in the industry express regret at how they handled Napster. The industry has done it's best to kill off popular streaming sites and has imposed region restrictions on many independent services.
Even today, iTunes and Amazon MP3 offer inferior products to CDs and the industry is trying to extort money from ISPs for letting people access their content.
"Maybe you can do a better job of explaining Mike's blatant and hilarious contradictions than he did, because all he did was punt and resort to personal insults"
Personal insults like "no one can talk out of both sides of his mouth better"? Oh, wait, that was you. I notice that you didn't provide any actual information, data or evidence to back up your position this time either. Just as Mike observed.
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What are you referring to? You don't appear to have refuted my quoted statement. In fact, you seem to be explaining why you don't believe Prince's work is art.
"Actually, royalties are the way of paying for ceded control"
From Wikipedia (emphasis mine): "Since the Copyright Act of 1909, in the United States there has been a right to record a version of someone else's tune, whether of music alone or of music and lyrics.[6] A license can be specifically negotiated between representatives of the interpreting artist and the copyright holder, or recording of published tunes can fall under a mechanical license whereby the recording artist pays a standard royalty to the original author/copyright holder through an organization such as the Harry Fox Agency, and is safe under copyright law even if they do not have any permission from the original author."
Maybe if the artist was alive in 1909 then you might argue that they ceded control.
"Mike is trying to compare to music, but the comparison isn't fair because there is a performance component that isn't present in copying photographs"
If there is a performance component to taking a photograph then there is a comparable component to sticking a Hitler moustache on a photograph. Both are taking what is already there and making choices about how to present them. Arguably, taking a photograph doesn't even add anything to the subject of the photograph, it is reliant solely on composition of the shot for expression.
"10 musicians can play the same song, and each one is a unique performance"
10 artists can stick things on a photograph, and each one is a unique performance.
"Plus each of Mike's examples are music which is substantially different in performance than the originals cited, with much added, removed, and changed in composition and performance."
But that isn't a requirement, is it? A musician can choose to recreate another performance of a song to the best accuracy of their ability.
'But even to an untrained eye, you can see that his "work" is mostly a copy of the other work, with no variation in presentation or performance.'
Unless you count the performance of sticking bits on, which vary the presentation somewhat.
"It isn't trans formative"
Except where it is.
"it isn't a personal interpretation"
Except that it is.
"it is a copy"
Except where it isn't.
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Copyright was used to control access to the bible, although obviously not by the originators. A notable fact about the American Revolution was that it allowed America to breach royal copyright on the King James Bible.
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