_Surely people here must recognize that a recorded performance of a public domain composition has a valid copyright in itself. Otherwise, why would any company try to sell recordings of classical music. Just the fact that the composition is in the public domain doesn't invalidate all copyright claims. Let's characterize all the 4 factors in this case even though Tim's focus in this article is that one of the 4 fair use factors is usually ignored._
The whole point of the public domain is that anyone can use it in any way. And none of those ways should prevent a person from making money from her work.
In any case, A Clockwork Orange (the film, the book, and the soundtrack) should have entered the public domain years ago; they're more than 28 years old, aren't they? It's only due to our Mickey Mouse copyright laws that the terms are so insanely long at the moment.
It's not the first time they've been caught doing that but it's indicative of the broader problem we are all expecting to encounter down the line: one rule for us, another for them.
And apparently Trump is as keen on IPR as private property as Clinton so I'm a) laughing at the hypocrisy here and b) worried that he'll allow himself to be influenced by the USTR into making copyright terms longer and enforcement more harsh.
In his interview with 60 Minutes Trump said the Clintons are good people and he doesn't want to hurt them. In light of this comment do you think Hillary will give her fireworks to Trump as a gesture of goodwill?
You may find that's due to the fact that many people on your side of the Pond visibly jump whem someone says the word "Socialist." I actually met someone who did that once. He was from Virginia and had voted Obama.
That's a Progressive visibly jumping at the word "Socialist."
What left wing?!
I've seen some actual American leftists on Twitter (they're the ones advocating nationalisation of everything and free everything and jacking up taxes, etc.), but they're few and far between. And you'd be amazed at how much people on either side of the aisle actually have in common with each other. If only they realised this! It's usually down to individual aspects of the culture wars. Turns out they're not as split between Liberal/Progressive and the Right as you'd think. For example, there are Dems who love guns. Really. Check it out.
Imagine what'd happen if people just stopped fighting each other based on stereotypes and strawmen and actually talked to each other. It'd be amazing. Let's make that happen.
Think about it; you might fight like cat and dog with your siblings, etc., but they're family and you'll fight tooth and nail for them if it comes to that.
Some people get so invested in their corner of the culture wars that they'll fight and die for the party that at least sounds as though they're on their side.
Once you understand that, you have the key to them: just work out what they're all protective of and find some common ground. Work from there.
Shillary's shameless stumping for the corporatocracy and her blithe continuation of the status quo lost her the presidency. She's a neocon war hawk with no concern for anyone outside of her immediate circle. She'd have continued surveillance and forced TTIP and TPP on us. I learned that from Techdirt and other sources.
Trump, by contrast, is just an ignorant attention whore who makes promises he has no plan to keep. I learned that from his own damn website and subsequent pronouncements — I'm aware of the pro-Clinton bias in the press.
Please note, the press is run by Establishment figures who wanted to continue the status quo, which Hillary promised to do. That's not a left-wing thing, don't fall into the partisan pit.
Actually, I've had success by starting where the other person is at and working out what their agenda is, e.g. fair play.
We have an actual left in this country and I'm friendly with many left-wingers even though I disagree with them on pretty much everything.
So, RE: free speech, my lefty friends want to bully the dominant right-wing hate rags into diluting the bile and stop turning people against their $minority neighbours by defunding them. The defunding campaign is via persuading advertisers to pull ad campaigns or simply not renew them. Lego doesn't advertise in the Daily Fail any more. Specsavers has joined them and it's down to a campaign by Stop Funding Hate.
I disagree with this approach. In the tweet from Lego announcing their decision you'll see me tangling with the kind of individual who refers to restaurant serving staff as "a waitperson" over gendered toys. You can see right there in that thread that the slope gets all slippery and the gradient gets steep from the moment you give any group the power of gatekeeper RE: acceptable political views. The argument has gone from "Stop encouraging extremist hate freaks to fire-bomb refugees" to "stop selling Barbie dolls with makeup, etc."
So how did I persuade my friends that censorship is bad? I asked them if they honestly believed that the right would try to shut them up if they could.
They said yes.
"Well if you create the power of gatekeeper over what is or isn't an acceptable political view, how would you prevent it from being turned against you?"
They looked at each other.
"Well maybe we need to look at how to reach out to the least threatening of the people we disagree with and work out ways of winning them over instead of just calling them names and trying to shut them up."
They looked back at me and realised that's the thing that I do all the time with them.
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Agreed. Let's stop pretending there's a see-saw swinging left to right and that each is the exact opposite of the other. There's not. The US left barely exists, there's no middle. There's only right and further right, and they come in a range of flavours.
It's not FB or Twitter's job to decide what's true or false. As Mike has said, it's up to us to think for ourselves. Otherwise, who will do our thinking for us? Would they do it in our interest, or in theirs?
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The whole point of the public domain is that anyone can use it in any way. And none of those ways should prevent a person from making money from her work.
In any case, A Clockwork Orange (the film, the book, and the soundtrack) should have entered the public domain years ago; they're more than 28 years old, aren't they? It's only due to our Mickey Mouse copyright laws that the terms are so insanely long at the moment.
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And apparently Trump is as keen on IPR as private property as Clinton so I'm a) laughing at the hypocrisy here and b) worried that he'll allow himself to be influenced by the USTR into making copyright terms longer and enforcement more harsh.
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Go and learn what words mean.
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That's a Progressive visibly jumping at the word "Socialist."
What left wing?!
I've seen some actual American leftists on Twitter (they're the ones advocating nationalisation of everything and free everything and jacking up taxes, etc.), but they're few and far between. And you'd be amazed at how much people on either side of the aisle actually have in common with each other. If only they realised this! It's usually down to individual aspects of the culture wars. Turns out they're not as split between Liberal/Progressive and the Right as you'd think. For example, there are Dems who love guns. Really. Check it out.
Imagine what'd happen if people just stopped fighting each other based on stereotypes and strawmen and actually talked to each other. It'd be amazing. Let's make that happen.
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Think about it; you might fight like cat and dog with your siblings, etc., but they're family and you'll fight tooth and nail for them if it comes to that.
Some people get so invested in their corner of the culture wars that they'll fight and die for the party that at least sounds as though they're on their side.
Once you understand that, you have the key to them: just work out what they're all protective of and find some common ground. Work from there.
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Trump, by contrast, is just an ignorant attention whore who makes promises he has no plan to keep. I learned that from his own damn website and subsequent pronouncements — I'm aware of the pro-Clinton bias in the press.
Please note, the press is run by Establishment figures who wanted to continue the status quo, which Hillary promised to do. That's not a left-wing thing, don't fall into the partisan pit.
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We have an actual left in this country and I'm friendly with many left-wingers even though I disagree with them on pretty much everything.
So, RE: free speech, my lefty friends want to bully the dominant right-wing hate rags into diluting the bile and stop turning people against their $minority neighbours by defunding them. The defunding campaign is via persuading advertisers to pull ad campaigns or simply not renew them. Lego doesn't advertise in the Daily Fail any more. Specsavers has joined them and it's down to a campaign by Stop Funding Hate.
I disagree with this approach. In the tweet from Lego announcing their decision you'll see me tangling with the kind of individual who refers to restaurant serving staff as "a waitperson" over gendered toys. You can see right there in that thread that the slope gets all slippery and the gradient gets steep from the moment you give any group the power of gatekeeper RE: acceptable political views. The argument has gone from "Stop encouraging extremist hate freaks to fire-bomb refugees" to "stop selling Barbie dolls with makeup, etc."
So how did I persuade my friends that censorship is bad? I asked them if they honestly believed that the right would try to shut them up if they could.
They said yes.
"Well if you create the power of gatekeeper over what is or isn't an acceptable political view, how would you prevent it from being turned against you?"
They looked at each other.
"Well maybe we need to look at how to reach out to the least threatening of the people we disagree with and work out ways of winning them over instead of just calling them names and trying to shut them up."
They looked back at me and realised that's the thing that I do all the time with them.
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Read this: https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/06/fight-internet-fight-power-narrative/
NOW do you understand? We can't give self-appointed gate-keepers that kind of power. They'd abuse the crap out of it!
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Can we please stop doing that?
The Democrat party is led by neocons with Progressives in the back seat screaming till they get what they want.
The nearest America has to a left is Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein. That's not a lot, and they don't have much power.
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Partisanship solves no problems.
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