Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 10 Sep 2011 @ 5:59am
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This isn't rocket science, it's a puppeteer/pulley system.
Thanks for proving the point. The patent describes in very general terms making puppets - which has been done for for decades, centuries, and maybe millennia. What is the invention deserving of patent protection, and where are the specific instructions on making it?
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 9 Sep 2011 @ 1:25pm
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Part of the patent system is disclosing how to make your invention...
Pretty much every recent patent that has been pointed out highlighting how screwed up the patent system seems to leave that part out.
Can you please point out the "how to make it" part of the patent in this story? I looked and can't find anything that is even remotely close to describing that so someone knowledgeable would be able to accomplish it.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 8 Sep 2011 @ 6:41am
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What I think is amusing is that most of the signatories appear to come from companies that benefit from "social media" and unlimited, unrestricted use of copyrighted material - without a license. Of course they would hate PROTECT IP, because it would pretty much make them have to spend money to be compliant - or even give up more obviously infringing business models.
So you agree that many of the most innovative new and small business (with plenty of evidence showing that's where the most jobs are created) will have to spend money on complying with old obsolete laws that only benefit legacy companies (who when they lay-off thousands of people, their stock prices go up). Glad you've seen the light.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 8 Sep 2011 @ 3:42am
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The people don't have the infrastructure in place to do that kind of stuff.
Where is the place where people will discuss and find common ground to what they want?
We have the internet. If that isn't the massive infrastructure needed to discuss and find common ground, then what the hell are you doing posting comments in a tech blog that deals with this every day?
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 7 Sep 2011 @ 2:17pm
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Just one question.
WTF is this about "Offering services in the US" bullshit? Their site is on the internet. Unless you can show, with evidence, that they are specifically targeting users residing in the US, I'll consider that worth less than the bits used to transport it to my screen.
As to poker sites, the only reason they withdrew was because the US government started having their bank accounts seized. Good example! Harassing poker sites did nothing to slow down people gambling on the internet, and in fact pushed them to less reputable places where real crimes such as fraud and identity theft are more likely! Way to go, US Government! Good job watching out for your citizens!
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 7 Sep 2011 @ 1:43pm
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1) show me otherwise. The site is not down.
So if I go to rojadirecta.com, I can access their site?
No, I can't. The site is down. Whether it is up at another location is not relevant. Let's try an analogy:
Barnes and Noble has many locations. Two locations start offering a book for sale, that happens to contain copyrighted content not "authorized" by the copyright holder. So the copyright holder complains to the government, and the government "seizes" and shuts down one of these locations, but not the other. Questions: Is free speech infringed? Does it matter that location #2 sells all the same books as the first, or that I can get the same books from Amazon?
2) the nature of a criminal complaint is "innocent until proven guilty", but that does not by it's nature infer innocence, only the lack of a judgement. Illegal acts are not protected by the first amendment, and as such, it is likely that the "speech" on this website isn't as a result.
Without a judgement, innocence is presumed. Without sufficient evidence, innocence is the default position. The government cannot show that Puerto 80 offered infringing material, because they did not; simply offering a website where users post links to where infringing material is located (among other things they can post) is not illegal.
3) If they offered access to copyrighted material to US citizens, and profited from doing it, they have pretty much qualified at least on the surface for breaking US law.
They were not in the US, their servers were not in the US, much of their userbase is not in the US, and their actions were ruled legal twice in their home country. The only way the US government can do this is because in order to have any .com address, anyone in the world must indirectly interface with Verisign, a US company, who controls the .com root domain. And I'll ask again, how can a few lines of text controlled by Verisign possibly be enough to hold someone who operates entirely outside of the US accountable to US law?
Clearly judges agree, as warrants were issued to seize the domain, and so far every judge has shut down their arguments in the case.
Unless I'm mistaken, all that you're referring to here are rubber stamped warrants where the only side presented was the governments. Please name a single case where a judge has ruled on the merits of this case after hearing arguments from both sides.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 7 Sep 2011 @ 10:13am
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If Europe wants the US to pay a fair price for its goods then Europe needs to return the favor.
If you want a "fair price" then you need to stop supporting artificially-enforced-government-granted-monopoly-rights, otherwise known as copyrights and patents.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Sep 2011 @ 10:39am
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the "i will never pay for it" crowd just keeps on pirating, and keeps on convincing paying customers to stop paying.
The "i will never pay for it" crowd wouldn't have such a damn easy time if the MPAA would actually pay attention to what paying or willing to pay customers actually want.
Josh in CharlotteNC (profile), 6 Sep 2011 @ 7:18am
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There could have been company data they need on the drive that was not backed up anywhere else that they no longer have access to, that he was not authorized to delete/destroy.
Especially as D&T does all sorts of tax, auditing, and financial work, and does it for some of the largest companies in the world. It's entirely possible some of the records on his laptop could be related to legal cases. I know the hoops you need to jump through just to encrypt data on drives that may be involved in legal cases (and the encryption product I use changes neither the data itself or meta-data such as last modified dates). And we have special procedures for any machines that are considered under "legal hold" - if anything happens to it, or it is being given to someone else, the drive is pulled, stored, and a new one put into the machine.
Since supposedly he's and expert in privacy and security, why was he keeping such sensitive personal information on a computer he didn't own? Sure, I've got some personal stuff on my work laptop, but nothing I'd be afraid of my employer having access to, or being made public. When my contract is up at BigBank, I'll be deleting my personal stuff, but sure as heck won't be wiping the drive.
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Thanks for proving the point. The patent describes in very general terms making puppets - which has been done for for decades, centuries, and maybe millennia. What is the invention deserving of patent protection, and where are the specific instructions on making it?
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Pretty much every recent patent that has been pointed out highlighting how screwed up the patent system seems to leave that part out.
Can you please point out the "how to make it" part of the patent in this story? I looked and can't find anything that is even remotely close to describing that so someone knowledgeable would be able to accomplish it.
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So you agree that many of the most innovative new and small business (with plenty of evidence showing that's where the most jobs are created) will have to spend money on complying with old obsolete laws that only benefit legacy companies (who when they lay-off thousands of people, their stock prices go up). Glad you've seen the light.
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Where is the place where people will discuss and find common ground to what they want?
We have the internet. If that isn't the massive infrastructure needed to discuss and find common ground, then what the hell are you doing posting comments in a tech blog that deals with this every day?
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WTF is this about "Offering services in the US" bullshit? Their site is on the internet. Unless you can show, with evidence, that they are specifically targeting users residing in the US, I'll consider that worth less than the bits used to transport it to my screen.
As to poker sites, the only reason they withdrew was because the US government started having their bank accounts seized. Good example! Harassing poker sites did nothing to slow down people gambling on the internet, and in fact pushed them to less reputable places where real crimes such as fraud and identity theft are more likely! Way to go, US Government! Good job watching out for your citizens!
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It's hard to blame hosting companies. It's the law that's the problem.
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So if I go to rojadirecta.com, I can access their site?
No, I can't. The site is down. Whether it is up at another location is not relevant. Let's try an analogy:
Barnes and Noble has many locations. Two locations start offering a book for sale, that happens to contain copyrighted content not "authorized" by the copyright holder. So the copyright holder complains to the government, and the government "seizes" and shuts down one of these locations, but not the other. Questions: Is free speech infringed? Does it matter that location #2 sells all the same books as the first, or that I can get the same books from Amazon?
2) the nature of a criminal complaint is "innocent until proven guilty", but that does not by it's nature infer innocence, only the lack of a judgement. Illegal acts are not protected by the first amendment, and as such, it is likely that the "speech" on this website isn't as a result.
Without a judgement, innocence is presumed. Without sufficient evidence, innocence is the default position. The government cannot show that Puerto 80 offered infringing material, because they did not; simply offering a website where users post links to where infringing material is located (among other things they can post) is not illegal.
3) If they offered access to copyrighted material to US citizens, and profited from doing it, they have pretty much qualified at least on the surface for breaking US law.
They were not in the US, their servers were not in the US, much of their userbase is not in the US, and their actions were ruled legal twice in their home country. The only way the US government can do this is because in order to have any .com address, anyone in the world must indirectly interface with Verisign, a US company, who controls the .com root domain. And I'll ask again, how can a few lines of text controlled by Verisign possibly be enough to hold someone who operates entirely outside of the US accountable to US law?
Clearly judges agree, as warrants were issued to seize the domain, and so far every judge has shut down their arguments in the case.
Unless I'm mistaken, all that you're referring to here are rubber stamped warrants where the only side presented was the governments. Please name a single case where a judge has ruled on the merits of this case after hearing arguments from both sides.
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If you want a "fair price" then you need to stop supporting artificially-enforced-government-granted-monopoly-rights, otherwise known as copyrights and patents.
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The "i will never pay for it" crowd wouldn't have such a damn easy time if the MPAA would actually pay attention to what paying or willing to pay customers actually want.
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Especially as D&T does all sorts of tax, auditing, and financial work, and does it for some of the largest companies in the world. It's entirely possible some of the records on his laptop could be related to legal cases. I know the hoops you need to jump through just to encrypt data on drives that may be involved in legal cases (and the encryption product I use changes neither the data itself or meta-data such as last modified dates). And we have special procedures for any machines that are considered under "legal hold" - if anything happens to it, or it is being given to someone else, the drive is pulled, stored, and a new one put into the machine.
Since supposedly he's and expert in privacy and security, why was he keeping such sensitive personal information on a computer he didn't own? Sure, I've got some personal stuff on my work laptop, but nothing I'd be afraid of my employer having access to, or being made public. When my contract is up at BigBank, I'll be deleting my personal stuff, but sure as heck won't be wiping the drive.
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*I don't consider tradition or "because modern mapmakers happened to be European" as good reasons.
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It's the American dream!
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His paradox absorbing crumple zones have absorbed it.
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