How do you know they were all gun owners? Maybe non-gun-owning gun advocates were part of that crowd.
How would you like it that organization published a list of everything expensive owned by people in your neighborhood, including you?? And maybe the contents of your bank account? Or the fact that you like to wear women's lingerie and smear honey all over yourself with a concrete vibrator shoved up your ass?
Where does the "privacy" line get drawn?
I'm a gun owner; and you'll play hell finding out who I am. I don't brag about it, I don't save my guns in the air. I take care of them, I occasionally shoot them for practice; and the rest of the time they stay locked up and safe.
So someone publishing my gun ownership info is a violation of my privacy, which is against the law.
Do you want me outing your sexual perversities is a violation of your privacy, too--right?
Where does it stop?
The journal overstepped their bounds. Death threats are going too far... but a class-action lawsuit is a perfectly acceptable response. And I hope they get sued into oblivion.
Replace "dumb" with "ignorant"; but the result is the same: people incapable of thinking critically, and thinking their way out of a paper bag.
The motherfuckers running TexASS right now are right now, as we speak, trying to eliminate "critical thinking" from the classrooms. WHAT THE FUCK!?!? They've already utterly gutted the public school system--once ranked amongst the best, it's now an utter shambles, and getting worse every week.
I got lucky: I got to attend a very private college preparatory school, where we graduated already college sophomores. Where those who flunked out, and went to other private schools, ended up on the dean's list. Where, when those that egregiously flunked out and went to public schools, ended up valedictorians.
So I've seen both sides of the fence, and I gotta tell you: continue gutting education the way it's going NATIONWIDE, and we will end up with a nation full of ignoramuses who all couldn't collectively think their ways out of a paper bag. And with a very few sucking every dime they can out of their pockets, and keeping them impoverished.
Oh, snap: it's already happening.
Fuck it: it's time for a really big asteroid to reset this damn planet. Maybe the roaches will do a better job next time around.
Re: Response to: letherial on Dec 29th, 2012 @ 4:31pm
It wouldn't be hard for a provider to implement it, thru a browser. And it wouldn't be hard to create apps/programs that would allow it on tablets and phones.
What if he or the station don't own that magazine? What if they obtained it legally from a gun owner IN ANOTHER STATE, where it's legal to own such a thing?
And what if the magazine is now back in the hands of the legal owner? Where does that "law" stand now?
Journalism has been failing the public interest for a long time now. Most of them are in thrall to corporations, so their work is already automatically biased toward their owners.
Of course they are... If they have their druthers, your employer will monitor every word you say, and "have a word with you" if they don't like what you've said. And if you surf anything they don't like?? Well, you could be fired... Or made to do some pretty unsavory things--to "prove" your loyalty to the corporation, of course.
A few are smart; a very few. Most of those are just ruthless, and willing to cut your throat for that extra dollar.
Some COULD be smart, but either choose to be dumb, or just can't be bothered. They'd rather play their games/watch tv/get high.
the rest are dumb, plain dumb; and the "education system" is constantly failing them every year. Look at TexASS: uberfuhrer Perry and company are doing their damnedest to completely dismantle the public school system--allegedly to give their cronies more money via "private school vouchers"; but the real reason is so the common people will end up even dumber than they are now. Which leads right to a corporate government that's set up to funnel even more money to the 1%, while turning the 99% into slaves. Stupid, drooling slaves.
Without a central authority that can actually enforce the rules that WE want in place, unscrupulous humans will run rampant and hurt people for their own profit--it's happening now, in fact, because the Corporatists have changed the rules to allow those psychos get away with murder, sometimes literally. You can't watch tv without seeing shit that's worthless crap, much like the snake oil from the 19th century, and into the 20th, before that central government you so despise grew strong enough to regulate.
You cannot have rule of law without some central authority to help enforce said law.
If you want to decentralize and eliminate government, why don't you go see what no government gets you? I hear Somalia is a great place to experience that--it's called "anarchy", btw. And those Corporatists that espouse "lesser government" really want "no government" at all... So they can make unbridled profits at the expense of their customers.
Is that what you really want? To watch your children eat something that will make them sick? To use a car that will blow up in their faces? To have a building collapse on them and kill them?
Because that's what you'll get without strong law and regulation.
That's just it: the very bastards we are both decrying, are the very bastards trying to grind us into the dirt under their heels!! They don't WANT equality, because they think they're better than the rest; they don't WANT fairness, because they only know how to lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want; they don't WANT democracy, because those very numbers of which you speak are what prevent them from getting what they want: which is POWER.
There is only one true solution: and that's a strong central government that has rule of law behind it, and people willing to remember what it means to be a public servant, and are willing to do what it takes to make sure the right and necessary things get done.
So, if your boss tells you to commit a crime, OR ELSE, and you cave in because you need that job; does that mean YOU should go down for being coerced into doing that thing?? And you know it's coercion, because you know as well as I do that if you do lose that job, you're gonna either be living in a cardboard box in a few weeks; or in jail because you had to steal to feed your family.
At some point, those that give the orders need to face the music, too, ESPECIALLY when they give orders they KNOW lead to an illegal act.
Humans are vicious, lazy, selfish, destructive creatures; most are psycho- or socio-pathic; another good percentage are just broken; and the rest (a sad minority) are just trying to pick up the pieces.
In other words, it would be utterly impossible for us to even come close to being like ants. Societies have tried many, many times in human history, and have all failed.
Agent Smith was right: we are a virus, a disease. And we're lucky to have managed to "advance" as far as we have without molding ourselves.
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How would you like it that organization published a list of everything expensive owned by people in your neighborhood, including you?? And maybe the contents of your bank account? Or the fact that you like to wear women's lingerie and smear honey all over yourself with a concrete vibrator shoved up your ass?
Where does the "privacy" line get drawn?
I'm a gun owner; and you'll play hell finding out who I am. I don't brag about it, I don't save my guns in the air. I take care of them, I occasionally shoot them for practice; and the rest of the time they stay locked up and safe.
So someone publishing my gun ownership info is a violation of my privacy, which is against the law.
Do you want me outing your sexual perversities is a violation of your privacy, too--right?
Where does it stop?
The journal overstepped their bounds. Death threats are going too far... but a class-action lawsuit is a perfectly acceptable response. And I hope they get sued into oblivion.
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Replace "dumb" with "ignorant"; but the result is the same: people incapable of thinking critically, and thinking their way out of a paper bag.
The motherfuckers running TexASS right now are right now, as we speak, trying to eliminate "critical thinking" from the classrooms. WHAT THE FUCK!?!? They've already utterly gutted the public school system--once ranked amongst the best, it's now an utter shambles, and getting worse every week.
I got lucky: I got to attend a very private college preparatory school, where we graduated already college sophomores. Where those who flunked out, and went to other private schools, ended up on the dean's list. Where, when those that egregiously flunked out and went to public schools, ended up valedictorians.
So I've seen both sides of the fence, and I gotta tell you: continue gutting education the way it's going NATIONWIDE, and we will end up with a nation full of ignoramuses who all couldn't collectively think their ways out of a paper bag. And with a very few sucking every dime they can out of their pockets, and keeping them impoverished.
Oh, snap: it's already happening.
Fuck it: it's time for a really big asteroid to reset this damn planet. Maybe the roaches will do a better job next time around.
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Re: Response to: letherial on Dec 29th, 2012 @ 4:31pm
All it takes is demand.
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What if he or the station don't own that magazine? What if they obtained it legally from a gun owner IN ANOTHER STATE, where it's legal to own such a thing?
And what if the magazine is now back in the hands of the legal owner? Where does that "law" stand now?
IMHO, on pretty shaky ground.
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Moneymoneymoney... The greatest evil.
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It's up to us, ultimately.
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"thoughtcrimes", anyone?
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You think we're smart??
Like hell. You give way too much credit.
A few are smart; a very few. Most of those are just ruthless, and willing to cut your throat for that extra dollar.
Some COULD be smart, but either choose to be dumb, or just can't be bothered. They'd rather play their games/watch tv/get high.
the rest are dumb, plain dumb; and the "education system" is constantly failing them every year. Look at TexASS: uberfuhrer Perry and company are doing their damnedest to completely dismantle the public school system--allegedly to give their cronies more money via "private school vouchers"; but the real reason is so the common people will end up even dumber than they are now. Which leads right to a corporate government that's set up to funnel even more money to the 1%, while turning the 99% into slaves. Stupid, drooling slaves.
Great society you're espousing there, boudreax.
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You cannot have rule of law without some central authority to help enforce said law.
If you want to decentralize and eliminate government, why don't you go see what no government gets you? I hear Somalia is a great place to experience that--it's called "anarchy", btw. And those Corporatists that espouse "lesser government" really want "no government" at all... So they can make unbridled profits at the expense of their customers.
Is that what you really want? To watch your children eat something that will make them sick? To use a car that will blow up in their faces? To have a building collapse on them and kill them?
Because that's what you'll get without strong law and regulation.
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There is only one true solution: and that's a strong central government that has rule of law behind it, and people willing to remember what it means to be a public servant, and are willing to do what it takes to make sure the right and necessary things get done.
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So I started a petition...KILL "WE THE PEOPLE" PETITION SITE!!
Let's see what happens with that one... muahahaha!!
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At some point, those that give the orders need to face the music, too, ESPECIALLY when they give orders they KNOW lead to an illegal act.
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Humans are vicious, lazy, selfish, destructive creatures; most are psycho- or socio-pathic; another good percentage are just broken; and the rest (a sad minority) are just trying to pick up the pieces.
In other words, it would be utterly impossible for us to even come close to being like ants. Societies have tried many, many times in human history, and have all failed.
Agent Smith was right: we are a virus, a disease. And we're lucky to have managed to "advance" as far as we have without molding ourselves.
But that day is coming.
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And if the votes don't work, the guns to their heads will.
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