1. kickstarter for the project before you release
2. liciencing (including the money megaupload paid per download)
3. advertising
4. sponsorship (after you build your brand)
5. custom gigs (ala dan bull write a song for you)
6. shout out (as in buy my song and i will put your name in my next thank you song-- again ala dan bull)
reverse the transaction
use the current piracy as a promo for your next KICKSTARTER campaign
an how many of those people had not heard radio head and simple gave them a try because the content is free.
you might want to read the statement you are responding too
I truly believe most fans will support the artists they like.
people who haven't decided if they like the band yet are not fans.
They won't be fans until the next album.
Oh and btw radio head now has all those people on their mailing list.
And they made more money selling those new fans tickets/merchandise/old albums/ pushing them to their youtube videos and collecting ad payments/ then they would have made selling them the album at full price given the standard record deals.
fair use allows you to use copyright material WITHOUT the permission of the copyright holder. It the trade off every copyright holder agrees to when they were granted the monopoly rights to CONTROL how their content is distributed in every OTHER case.
Your own argument about not using copyright material EXPLICITLY take away that right away from the public.
"contextual wrapping the "licence" within the scope of providing the service advertised would also allow them do what they need to do to provide the service, without taking more rights than they actually need."
Google over stepped the bounds with their blanket auto licencing
drop box didn't
You argued they "need" to have that "blanket" licence
which is of course patently false
they only need to have a licence for the scope of the service ("again, only to provide the Services")
really then why doesn't competing cloud drive services don't have the exact same wording.
drop box
"Your Stuff & Your Privacy: By using our Services you provide us with information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together, "your stuff"). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don't claim any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that are needed to run the Services, as explained below."
SkyDrive:
Your Content: Except for material that we license to you, we don't claim ownership of the content you provide on the service. Your content remains your content. We also don't control, verify, or endorse the content that you and others make available on the service."
contextual wrapping the "licence" within the scope of providing the service advertised would also allow them do what they need to do to provide the service, without taking more rights than they actually need.
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If the you can't pay for it don't use it model applies
should the if you can't block your crap only leave the site alone model also apply.
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if anything that statement means you should make the price change as soon as possible to make sure your one of the lucky few who will cash in.
BTW it totally false, people are simple going to buy more books, rather then buying 1 book, and pirating 12 they will buy 13.
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but the competing distribution model is the competition to the theater distribution
which is "piracy" sites like the pirate bay.
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somehow that waste of money justifies destroy the competing distribution model.
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I wasn't a fan of radio head when i downloaded that album.
I saw the news story about them on ET Canada thought it was a no risk option to just download the album.
Which i did.
I didn't like it so i deleted it.
they did however mail me later on which introduced me a band that i did like (thru an affiliate link btw)
I wasn't a fan before i downloaded
and i wasn't a fan after i downloaded it.
How many other people were exactly like me.
BTW
dan bull is the reverse i downloaded all his stuff from the pirate bay
I happened to like the google+ version of sharing is caring
so i bought that one.
I am now a fan of his work, and a fan of his approach.
If he does the multiple versions of the song thing again odds are good one of them will appeal to me.
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And he did it without being approved for the pirate bay promo
he just pirated his own books on the pirate bay and shared it openly with his fans.
Want to name ONE artist who has gotten access to the record companies promo capacity without signing over their copyright to the privilege.
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2. liciencing (including the money megaupload paid per download)
3. advertising
4. sponsorship (after you build your brand)
5. custom gigs (ala dan bull write a song for you)
6. shout out (as in buy my song and i will put your name in my next thank you song-- again ala dan bull)
reverse the transaction
use the current piracy as a promo for your next KICKSTARTER campaign
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if your good i will buy more.
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you can stop the pirate bay from pirating your stuff by going after the original seeders
no original seeder no one pirating your stuff period.
Why do you want to take away the CHOICE from all the people who want to use that model.
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Drop the record companies from the equation and spotify pays way more then the record labels for the same licensed rights.
amazing that he can't read
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because you obviously don't know what the word means.
62% of the people who were offered the choice to pay nothing
took that choice. You still haven't proven that every single person who downloaded the album was a fan.
Just like everyone who listens to the radio is not a fan of every single band played on that radio.
There is a difference between down loaders and fans.
Just like there is a difference between radio listeners and fans.
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Re: Re: honesty
you might want to read the statement you are responding too
I truly believe most fans will support the artists they like.
people who haven't decided if they like the band yet are not fans.
They won't be fans until the next album.
Oh and btw radio head now has all those people on their mailing list.
And they made more money selling those new fans tickets/merchandise/old albums/ pushing them to their youtube videos and collecting ad payments/ then they would have made selling them the album at full price given the standard record deals.
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Ask Dan Bull
lot of people bought is stuff because they found it on the pirate bay.
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the record label take a cut of the revenue spotify pays. Hijacking most of the money that should go to the artist.
Drop the record companies from the equation and spotify pays way more then the record labels for the same licensed rights.
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no he is not, america still has the principle of INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty.
So mega upload is not a bunch of pirates until they get convicted.
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Re: Double Standards?
fair use allows you to use copyright material WITHOUT the permission of the copyright holder. It the trade off every copyright holder agrees to when they were granted the monopoly rights to CONTROL how their content is distributed in every OTHER case.
Your own argument about not using copyright material EXPLICITLY take away that right away from the public.
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weather a person buys his stuff because they like the content
or they buy his stuff because they like his attitude
they are buying his stuff.
That the point.
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you might want to look up the word ironic.
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"contextual wrapping the "licence" within the scope of providing the service advertised would also allow them do what they need to do to provide the service, without taking more rights than they actually need."
Google over stepped the bounds with their blanket auto licencing
drop box didn't
You argued they "need" to have that "blanket" licence
which is of course patently false
they only need to have a licence for the scope of the service ("again, only to provide the Services")
they put a clause that give them much much more.
On the post: Calm Down Internet: Google Drive's Terms Are The Standard For Countless Websites, Including Gmail
drop box
"Your Stuff & Your Privacy: By using our Services you provide us with information, files, and folders that you submit to Dropbox (together, "your stuff"). You retain full ownership to your stuff. We don't claim any ownership to any of it. These Terms do not grant us any rights to your stuff or intellectual property except for the limited rights that are needed to run the Services, as explained below."
SkyDrive:
Your Content: Except for material that we license to you, we don't claim ownership of the content you provide on the service. Your content remains your content. We also don't control, verify, or endorse the content that you and others make available on the service."
contextual wrapping the "licence" within the scope of providing the service advertised would also allow them do what they need to do to provide the service, without taking more rights than they actually need.
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