I'm writing an article on the story, with the emphasis of my article on how Online Reputation Management can go so wrong... Called the company and asked for Steve Casey, to get his side of the story.
Receptionist said their attorney will most likely be the one to call me back. Should be a fascinating conversation...
Power corrupts. Same story. Always. Without someone providing order and structure, there's always going to be unfettered chaos and someone somewhere is going to do grievous harm to those around them.
So how do we maintain order and structure without crossing into corrupt motives within the realm of cyber security, since it's hidden under the guise of national security?
The notion that Congress supposedly oversees such things and is charged with providing checks and balances has become a joke given their own corrupt motivations. And the Supreme court? total crap-shoot as a "final protection".
It's not surprising to read the depths to which countries go or the trend toward more attempts to shut down opposing views. As long as those in power are able to maintain that power, they will continually seek to strengthen their ability to maintain it in any way they can get away with.
While the US has the luxury of our constitution to help stem that tide, it's still a common reality even in our country and over the past several years, our government has shown a propensity to push up against our freedoms even harder. SOPA/PIPA and ACTA have just been a few of the more recent examples of how far they try to push.
Throw in the battles that take place over citizens filming police and a very dangerous aspect of that trend shows itself.
At the same time, it's beyond sad how so many around the world suffer even greater threats, suppression and control. Its all a recipe for the inevitable uprisings that overturn governments, only to start the cycle all over again.
wow. sad. Among all the other things I do in this world, I became the business manager for an up and coming singer last month. One of the challenges has been how we envision funding to happen. Sign with a major label and potentially give away your profits and creatives for years to come?
Go the kickstarter route and compete with thousands of other singers, on the off chance you can generate a million dollars, which is ridiculously less than we're going to need to go big without still having to put in even more years of effort?
Get a top name producer to listen to her music and believe enough in her to cover the costs up front in exchange for a percentage? Seek old-school equity investment capital?
Almost right away, as I spoke with top industry people (yeah, I'm blessed to have some connections), and looked at it from a detached business perspective, and the singer I'm managing offered her take on things, it was agreed that crowd-funded would not be a wise choice for a host of reasons. And reading this just confirmed it.
Crowd-funding has all sorts of great benefits. Except between this example and the Oatmeal's, it's pretty obvious there can be insanity of an epic proportion as well.
agreed! If every police officer was required to protect the idiots, what would happen to the Darwin awards! Think of the awards, for cryin out loud! They need to be preseved!
shooting? there's been a shooting? Quick! Call the police! And let's all meet there with our smart-phones so we can capture it for youtube, in the hopes that the gunman shoots us in the process, so we can sue the cops we've called!
that's the beauty of the D.C. chief's actions. It's a sign (yet to be tested, let alone reverberated across the country) that someone in power actually does care. Or was woken up to care. Or is pretending she cares in the hopes that she'll be able to leverage this with the majority of D.C. citizens who hate the cops. :-)
and people who look at the U.S. with holier-than-thou bogus concepts are equally so predictable. We have a document. It's called the Constitution. We're afforded rights as citizens. To play the "just wait til blah blah blah and the person sues" card is nonsense.
It's disingenuous within the light of the problem at hand, the disregard for our legally established rights as individuals.
That is the bigger issue because those situations lead to a police state.
To clarify, when I stated "well you can't use a site without being bound by its terms" that was an explicit and otherwise directly implied concept applying only to you, the 2 year troll.
well you can't use a site without being bound by its terms. And did you hear? The terms of this site now include a clause I added, in this comment. Whereby you have, retroactively, agreed to admit you don't understand contract law at all. While most of us don't fully understand it, and therefore, can, from time to time be incorrect, at least we get the core principles of OMGCrazy fake legal claims.
And since you are not among those of us who get that, you are now also hereby required, by virtue of this TOS addendum, to go to law school and only after graduating with at least a 3.95 grade point, will you be allowed to return here.
Yet even then you are no longer permitted, under the terms of this TOS, to ever insult, belittle or otherwise goad Mike the way you have in your comment heretofore responded to by this TOS addendum.
bullshit. I am NOT manifesting consent to anything. I'm browsing a publicly accessible presence. If you think you have the right to make up bullshit asshat rules that you want me to consent to, put a wall up. Make me agree to the terms directly, obviously, and without any doubt that I agreed (even if I didn't read the crap).
But there is no way you can claim that I've consented just by reading. That's utter shiny-object nonsense. Grow up.
This brings up another really important point. Everyone always cries "so what - show your support for the individual athletes..." blah blah blah...
Great. Love your athletes. Respect them. Treasure them. But people need to stop blinding themselves to the fact that corporations abuse that position way more than most probably realize.
Case in point - the whole U.S. uniforms made in China debacle that reared it's not-surprising ugly head this week. The initial reaction from USOC staff was the complaints about a desire to help Americans gain employment in current economic conditions that resulted in complaints against the USOC and RL, were bullshit ranting.
Except the complaints and outcry grew too big too fast, and now the USOC and RL have had to back-track, apologize, and vow to change their ways.
They got scared. Well the USOC didn't. RL did. Financially. And the USOC in turn had no choice but to agree that it was important to change their ways. Else other big name designers bail out on lending their name and crappy preppy designs to the USOC's effort.
Corporate greed needs to be dealt with directly - where it matters. Economically. Big corporations like at the Olympics don't want that - they think they can get away with murder because people will end up lowering their voices out of fear of offending the individual front-line troops.
Oh wow - look at that - same concept as war-mongering greedy corporate shill politicians depend on. Yes - that's right - they'll gladly send thousands of soldiers into harms way, with the real understanding that many will die, countless more will be wounded and scarred emotionally and psychologically for life.
And they count on citizens rolling over under the guise of patriotism. Because "if you're not supporting your troops, you're UnAmerican. Or UnBritish or UnCanadian. Or whatever nationality you are.
Well that's all bullshit. Because it just resonates to the fact that we live in sheep-to-slaughter societies around the globe now.
And the only answer that will work to ever change that system, be it with the Olympics or national imperialism, is to take off the politically delicate sensitivity gloves and get real, raw and ridiculously loud about it.
Wow TDR you're screwed. I think for every additional link within a derogatory framework, the fine is doubled. Glad I only linked to the slimey elitist piglets once.
Okay so that $5,000 burger is a ripoff. It's not kobe beef. Kobe beef is NOT available for export from Japan. Not even export to other areas of Japan from the Kobe region where it's grown. People love calling their beef Kobe when it's not. So they should be sued for that.
Maybe Carreon would be a good candidate. He'd actually be taking on a real client with legitimate claims. It could help clean up his reputation!
Beyond that, I'd be willing to try the $5,000 version without all the gourmet crap the put on it. :-)
So this is a stupid asshat trend I have seen for years from corporations who think they own the interwebs because they have deep pockets to pay attorneys.
Typically it's left at "you're not allowed to link to us" without referring to make-believe legalese in a site's TOS. It's more often just an email saying - "Remove the link, we didn't say you could do that."
Heck, I got such an email a couple years back - from a company I'd done actual work for, and where I listed their site in my client portfolio. Ha! I laughed in that lawyer's email face.
I have a patent pending. It's for "generalized facilitation of the flow of information". I hope it gets finalized. So I can sue everyone who eats. because eating is central to the ability to think, and thus "remember".
Maybe it's time we pool our crowdsourcing efforts to really good use. Bribe enough congress people and the White House to craft a law to make it illegal to troll. And that it's up to Techdirt readers to decide who the trolls are subject to that law.
wishing ill will on any human being who has done you no harm is just over the top and uncalled for. Do you live for the sole purpose of pretending to be a superior human being? disgusting.
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Receptionist said their attorney will most likely be the one to call me back. Should be a fascinating conversation...
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So how do we maintain order and structure without crossing into corrupt motives within the realm of cyber security, since it's hidden under the guise of national security?
The notion that Congress supposedly oversees such things and is charged with providing checks and balances has become a joke given their own corrupt motivations. And the Supreme court? total crap-shoot as a "final protection".
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Those in control always seek more of it
While the US has the luxury of our constitution to help stem that tide, it's still a common reality even in our country and over the past several years, our government has shown a propensity to push up against our freedoms even harder. SOPA/PIPA and ACTA have just been a few of the more recent examples of how far they try to push.
Throw in the battles that take place over citizens filming police and a very dangerous aspect of that trend shows itself.
At the same time, it's beyond sad how so many around the world suffer even greater threats, suppression and control. Its all a recipe for the inevitable uprisings that overturn governments, only to start the cycle all over again.
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Go the kickstarter route and compete with thousands of other singers, on the off chance you can generate a million dollars, which is ridiculously less than we're going to need to go big without still having to put in even more years of effort?
Get a top name producer to listen to her music and believe enough in her to cover the costs up front in exchange for a percentage? Seek old-school equity investment capital?
Almost right away, as I spoke with top industry people (yeah, I'm blessed to have some connections), and looked at it from a detached business perspective, and the singer I'm managing offered her take on things, it was agreed that crowd-funded would not be a wise choice for a host of reasons. And reading this just confirmed it.
Crowd-funding has all sorts of great benefits. Except between this example and the Oatmeal's, it's pretty obvious there can be insanity of an epic proportion as well.
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It's disingenuous within the light of the problem at hand, the disregard for our legally established rights as individuals.
That is the bigger issue because those situations lead to a police state.
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To clarify, when I stated "well you can't use a site without being bound by its terms" that was an explicit and otherwise directly implied concept applying only to you, the 2 year troll.
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And since you are not among those of us who get that, you are now also hereby required, by virtue of this TOS addendum, to go to law school and only after graduating with at least a 3.95 grade point, will you be allowed to return here.
Yet even then you are no longer permitted, under the terms of this TOS, to ever insult, belittle or otherwise goad Mike the way you have in your comment heretofore responded to by this TOS addendum.
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But there is no way you can claim that I've consented just by reading. That's utter shiny-object nonsense. Grow up.
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Great. Love your athletes. Respect them. Treasure them. But people need to stop blinding themselves to the fact that corporations abuse that position way more than most probably realize.
Case in point - the whole U.S. uniforms made in China debacle that reared it's not-surprising ugly head this week. The initial reaction from USOC staff was the complaints about a desire to help Americans gain employment in current economic conditions that resulted in complaints against the USOC and RL, were bullshit ranting.
Except the complaints and outcry grew too big too fast, and now the USOC and RL have had to back-track, apologize, and vow to change their ways.
They got scared. Well the USOC didn't. RL did. Financially. And the USOC in turn had no choice but to agree that it was important to change their ways. Else other big name designers bail out on lending their name and crappy preppy designs to the USOC's effort.
Corporate greed needs to be dealt with directly - where it matters. Economically. Big corporations like at the Olympics don't want that - they think they can get away with murder because people will end up lowering their voices out of fear of offending the individual front-line troops.
Oh wow - look at that - same concept as war-mongering greedy corporate shill politicians depend on. Yes - that's right - they'll gladly send thousands of soldiers into harms way, with the real understanding that many will die, countless more will be wounded and scarred emotionally and psychologically for life.
And they count on citizens rolling over under the guise of patriotism. Because "if you're not supporting your troops, you're UnAmerican. Or UnBritish or UnCanadian. Or whatever nationality you are.
Well that's all bullshit. Because it just resonates to the fact that we live in sheep-to-slaughter societies around the globe now.
And the only answer that will work to ever change that system, be it with the Olympics or national imperialism, is to take off the politically delicate sensitivity gloves and get real, raw and ridiculously loud about it.
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Maybe Carreon would be a good candidate. He'd actually be taking on a real client with legitimate claims. It could help clean up his reputation!
Beyond that, I'd be willing to try the $5,000 version without all the gourmet crap the put on it. :-)
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Typically it's left at "you're not allowed to link to us" without referring to make-believe legalese in a site's TOS. It's more often just an email saying - "Remove the link, we didn't say you could do that."
Heck, I got such an email a couple years back - from a company I'd done actual work for, and where I listed their site in my client portfolio. Ha! I laughed in that lawyer's email face.
I don't care what any site's TOS says. If I want to link to their asshat commercially overzealous fascist enterprise's web site, I will.
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Maybe it's time we pool our crowdsourcing efforts to really good use. Bribe enough congress people and the White House to craft a law to make it illegal to troll. And that it's up to Techdirt readers to decide who the trolls are subject to that law.
Come on people! We can do this!
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