the fact is, our society has walked into this smiling and only now are starting to realize how bad it is to make people criminals for life for minor offences(many committed by minors..)
I once sat in court and watched a highschool kid get 6 months in jail and a life long felony record for having a scape bag with some weed crumbs in it(not kidding, i couldnt even see them and i was less then 5 foot away)
the cops said the kid was a good kid, so did the persecutor, school even had a rep there who told the judge the kid got good grades and was well liked and respected...
did no good, minimum sentencing kicked in, and in this state at that time, it ment he wont be getting any decent jobs.
hell, his own lawer told him he shouldnt bother going to collage because no corporation would hire him with that on his record....i cant blame him for being in tears....ruined life because he let the cops search his car and they found crumbs of weed in a tiny baggy...
but thats the world we live in, the prison lobby has pushed so very hard to ensure they can get as many people in private jails and prisons as possible, and that those people will be coming back since, once your branded a felon, your lifes pretty much fucked, nobody wants to hire a felon.....
oh well, fast food places and the like will hire you....if you can life off 3hrs a day a few days a week at minimum wage.....
want to fix the problem, first we need to get rid of these bad laws that make everybody criminals, second we need to setup a system where less serious offenses come off your record and disappear after X number of years, and are wiped from private databases as well as govt databases at that time.(with the ability for private citizens whos records arent wiped having the right to sue any company holding onto such data into the ground)
we need to stop the "War on Drugs" its the #1 reason this country has so many non-violent offenders in prisons, rather then spend that money on incarceration it should be spent on education and treatment for those who need it.
and not the scare tactic "education" most of us got about drugs when we where in school, teach the facts, have people who have been addicted to this stuff brought in to explain their lives and why avoiding the stuffs important.(thats why i never took up drugs, saw first hand how much it can messup your life, and never wanted anything to do with it)
Want another example of insane "ruin somebodies life forever" cases?
A while back a 13yo girl sent her like aged boyfriend some nudes of herself, somehow the images got out and word go to law enforcement, they not only charged the girl but everybody they where able to prove saw the images as sex offenders, the girl was charged with production and distribution of child porn....for images of herself....
this means for life any of the people who where convicted will be marked as sex offenders for child porn, whos going to hire them?
even those not convicted will have it out there that they where charged or investigated for child porn....again, what employer is going to hire a "kiddy diddler" (what everybody seems to think of anybody even accused of such things)?
the above kids are far from alone, this stuffs been happening allover the country, google/bing/yahoo about it, tons of kids being turned into felons for kiddy porn and the like for doing something stupid like this(showing each other their naked bodies).
the prison lobby LOVES this and is a big part of the push for this kinda thing to not only continue but to expand, because, get them young and you got a good chance at having them for most of their lives....after all, where do people who cant find legal jobs that will allow them to survive endup?
what you dont get is, this is how the prison lobby want it, they push for more and more laws to create more and more criminals, because the more people who are branded criminal the more people they get paid to house.
the prison lobby wants every american (outside themselves ofcorse) to be branded felon, and be tossed in prison, then when they get out, they WANT people to have to fall back to being criminals because, after all, thats how they make their billions.....
seriously, hell that law in AZ to check peoples papers to make sure they are citizens.....prison lobby was behind that....
laws to try and ensure that minors cant ever get out from under anything they do, no matter how minor....
ask yourself this, why does this country have the largest % of its population in prison world wide?
I know people who fell back to breaking the law to afford to live due to this kinda crap, when you cant find a job and you find out its because something that was supposedly expunged is still there.....and that it always will be....and thus you cant get any meaningful work....
disable auto complete by default, this would be kind anoying for those of us who use it constantly BUT the up side for google, since most of these people are either to stupid or to lazy to learn to use the tools they choose the problem would just go away.
i mean honestly, with the number of people i have seen say they use noscript to block auto complete, rather then just disabling it on google....
honestly, google should just disable it by default, then make you click threw a few warning windows when you want to enable it for your account, the windows could explain how it works and require you to click "i understand" even if you dont read it.....
but your asking people to actually learn to use the tools they choose, rather then just complain about them...
i mean i learned long ago how to disable the filtering on google that kept me from getting the results i wanted at times, it takes what 5 clicks or less to enable/disable stuff like filtering and auto complete?
again though, your asking people to learn to use the tools they choose......how could you.....they want whats perfect for them, and whats perfect for them should be perfect for everybody....
the way i see it, we need the DMCA to become such a pain in the arse, such a huge internet crippling issue that the general public start to notice and rebel.
once this becomes a clear election issue you will see politicians acting like they did with sopa/pipa/cispa, a bunch who where for it will magically say it was never a good idea if only to keep from facing the possibility they wont get elected the next go around.
and do a little research, the studies used/sited as proof that 2nd smoke kills are bullshit, I dont smoke, infact cig smoke makes me physically ill(allergies, funny enough quality cigars and pipe tobacco are fine....) BUT, Im all about accuracy and fact, and the fact is, that those studies you people believe are bullshit, just as the study that said vaccinations=autism was bullshit(the guy who did it infact admitted he lied to get paid and ended up in some serious trouble)
funny enough, the stuff that many studies show is making tobacco so bad is the crap they add to it, the tar, extra nicotine, pesticides(in the plant and those they dont clean off due to them helping cause greater addiction), seems natural isnt that harmful, just the human modified crap most people are addicted to....
true story, a buddy of mine got off a 5 pack a day addiction to cigs by smoking high end pipe tobacco then slowly quitting that(other then a rare occasion when he has a smoke when fishing or the like)
i just hope this dosnt happen to weed as it becomes legal in more and more places.
then you need to figure out what % is owed to your local county and city and pay that if you want to remain law abiding.
amazon charges for all states, in part because they plan to or already have offices in every state.
this law wouldnt harm amazon and other large operations, the ones it would screw over are small businesses who really cant afford to take the hit trying to track online sales tax for 50states with many counties and cities in each....
services will pop up to deal with this, BUT they will also take a sizeable chunk of the profits much as medical billing companies do(i work at a chiropractors office i see it all the time)
honestly, the way i see it, if they want to do something like this, make it a single tax set as a median rate(average of sales taxes across the nation), then distribute the tax based on purchases per location to the states/counties/cities/exct.
but the people behind this have a goal, its to put small time entailers out of business, make it not worth the trouble to sell online.
but but but, the republicans who pushed so hard to privatize the postal service assured us all that it would cut costs and even profit the govt, then they went on to insure that wasnt possible.....
gotta love the way the the right and left think....no true logic or objective facts can change their viewpoints....
My move as the Italian govt would be to outlaw broadband or internet period and inform the public that the mafiaa corporations and their friends demanded it due to their greed and stupidity.
wonder if that would boost box office and bluray/dvd sales?
yes i know it sounds nuts but, force everybody back to 56k speeds at best, full blocking at worst would really get the public's attention to the problem.
Re: Re: Re: SO no US address = immune from all prosecution?
no, only the other way around, see because most other countries dont think they rule the world, unlike our lovely US govt.
see, the US govt likes to go after people for things that are legal in their own countries, or go after people because their corporate masters dont like them(kim dotcom and that kid from the UK they want to send to prison for running a streaming link site that was/is legal in the UK)
people just need to accept that US law is world law (or at least thats what idiots like OOTB and our own govt, and their corporate masters think.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hackers are minor alongside Microsoft.
OOTB went full on freetard in that post.....I would say he was channeling stallman but.....even stallman isnt going to make this kind of claim....and hes battshit crazy.
yes there are textbooks in use, in schools being given public dollars that really do say things like
1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out
2. Dragons were totally real
3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."
4. Africa needs religion
5. Slave masters were nice guys
6. The KKK was A-OK
7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound
8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses
9. The Red Scare isn't over yet
10. Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson were a couple of hacks
11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated
12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists."
13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations."
14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture
so yeah, we got no room to talk about crazy shit in text books....worst pat of the above is.....its PUBLIC MONEY being used to pay for that "education"......
Talking to a friend who use to work in DC, from what he says, the real problem is as has been said many times, this craps being pushed by people who, enlarge dont understand what they are trying to regulate, they are inept technologically and some are even technophobic to a point of not even wanting a website or email addy.
from what I gather, many of these old people do not understand internet culture or modern culture at all, and they long for the days they grew up in where radio was a new amazing thing.
many of them have also been in office so long that they are so out of touch with the reality of living in this world/culture that they just cant relate to normal people.
they get 6 figure salaries and medical benefits for life once they enter office, how could they understand what its like to be one of "we the people" when they havent been for decades?
honestly, despite all the jokes, at least ted stevens tried to understand the modern world, even if he really didnt get it in detail, at least he got that net neutrality was important....
makes me sad, but till all these old men and technophobic troglodytes die off or are ousted from office and replaced by people who at least sort of get it....we will be stuck with this kinda BS where they are trying to regulate and control something that they have zero actual understanding of....
this is the U.S. Govt we are talking about, not a group of people that are in touch with reality, and not a group of people known for their high moral and ethical standards.
i guess you could say I have an issue with old farts who dont understand todays society and technology being in a position to rule on cases and laws where such knowledge is of great import.....this case is a good example of a judge thats is not only old but, clearly a technophobe/troglodyte, his rant does a good job proving to me that he shouldnt be ruling on cases in this day and age.....
not all old people are like this, and some young people are....hell, for all the fun people made of ted stevens, at least he tried and at least he got that net neutrality was important....
the thing is, and this is well documented, NONE of monsantos seeds/gmo's are tested, they are granted "gras" status because, monsanto own the fda.
even with all the stuff thats come out showing that last seasons corn was really bad...nothing as been or will be done, because monsanto has the money so they make the rules.
I say there should be testing thats like getting a drug approved(though thats a joke to, drugs proven safe in the rest of the world are held up till a US drug company puts something out that does the same thing)
we need strict long term testing....if we had that, im sure many things wouldnt be allowed in our food...aspartame.....you know the stuff that can kill rats...and that many americans including my own father are addicted to in the form of diet soda....
welcome to the incorporated states of america, whatever is best for the biggest business, is what society gets.
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the fact is
I once sat in court and watched a highschool kid get 6 months in jail and a life long felony record for having a scape bag with some weed crumbs in it(not kidding, i couldnt even see them and i was less then 5 foot away)
the cops said the kid was a good kid, so did the persecutor, school even had a rep there who told the judge the kid got good grades and was well liked and respected...
did no good, minimum sentencing kicked in, and in this state at that time, it ment he wont be getting any decent jobs.
hell, his own lawer told him he shouldnt bother going to collage because no corporation would hire him with that on his record....i cant blame him for being in tears....ruined life because he let the cops search his car and they found crumbs of weed in a tiny baggy...
but thats the world we live in, the prison lobby has pushed so very hard to ensure they can get as many people in private jails and prisons as possible, and that those people will be coming back since, once your branded a felon, your lifes pretty much fucked, nobody wants to hire a felon.....
oh well, fast food places and the like will hire you....if you can life off 3hrs a day a few days a week at minimum wage.....
want to fix the problem, first we need to get rid of these bad laws that make everybody criminals, second we need to setup a system where less serious offenses come off your record and disappear after X number of years, and are wiped from private databases as well as govt databases at that time.(with the ability for private citizens whos records arent wiped having the right to sue any company holding onto such data into the ground)
we need to stop the "War on Drugs" its the #1 reason this country has so many non-violent offenders in prisons, rather then spend that money on incarceration it should be spent on education and treatment for those who need it.
and not the scare tactic "education" most of us got about drugs when we where in school, teach the facts, have people who have been addicted to this stuff brought in to explain their lives and why avoiding the stuffs important.(thats why i never took up drugs, saw first hand how much it can messup your life, and never wanted anything to do with it)
Want another example of insane "ruin somebodies life forever" cases?
A while back a 13yo girl sent her like aged boyfriend some nudes of herself, somehow the images got out and word go to law enforcement, they not only charged the girl but everybody they where able to prove saw the images as sex offenders, the girl was charged with production and distribution of child porn....for images of herself....
this means for life any of the people who where convicted will be marked as sex offenders for child porn, whos going to hire them?
even those not convicted will have it out there that they where charged or investigated for child porn....again, what employer is going to hire a "kiddy diddler" (what everybody seems to think of anybody even accused of such things)?
the above kids are far from alone, this stuffs been happening allover the country, google/bing/yahoo about it, tons of kids being turned into felons for kiddy porn and the like for doing something stupid like this(showing each other their naked bodies).
the prison lobby LOVES this and is a big part of the push for this kinda thing to not only continue but to expand, because, get them young and you got a good chance at having them for most of their lives....after all, where do people who cant find legal jobs that will allow them to survive endup?
On the post: Washington State Allows Third Parties To Brand Youthful Offenders For Life At The Low, Low Price Of Only 69¢ A Record
Re:
the prison lobby wants every american (outside themselves ofcorse) to be branded felon, and be tossed in prison, then when they get out, they WANT people to have to fall back to being criminals because, after all, thats how they make their billions.....
seriously, hell that law in AZ to check peoples papers to make sure they are citizens.....prison lobby was behind that....
laws to try and ensure that minors cant ever get out from under anything they do, no matter how minor....
ask yourself this, why does this country have the largest % of its population in prison world wide?
I know people who fell back to breaking the law to afford to live due to this kinda crap, when you cant find a job and you find out its because something that was supposedly expunged is still there.....and that it always will be....and thus you cant get any meaningful work....
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a simple fix
i mean honestly, with the number of people i have seen say they use noscript to block auto complete, rather then just disabling it on google....
honestly, google should just disable it by default, then make you click threw a few warning windows when you want to enable it for your account, the windows could explain how it works and require you to click "i understand" even if you dont read it.....
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Re: Re: Re:
i mean i learned long ago how to disable the filtering on google that kept me from getting the results i wanted at times, it takes what 5 clicks or less to enable/disable stuff like filtering and auto complete?
again though, your asking people to learn to use the tools they choose......how could you.....they want whats perfect for them, and whats perfect for them should be perfect for everybody....
On the post: Grooveshark Loses Latest Round In Court, In A Ruling That Could Gut The DMCA's Safe Harbors
the way i see it
once this becomes a clear election issue you will see politicians acting like they did with sopa/pipa/cispa, a bunch who where for it will magically say it was never a good idea if only to keep from facing the possibility they wont get elected the next go around.
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Re: Re: Re: California is ridiculous
On the post: San Diego Cop Thinks You Might Have Turned Your Cell Phone Into A Gun And That 'Officer Safety' Trumps Constitutional Rights
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: California is ridiculous
http://youtu.be/9H4Z1n_GG8I
and do a little research, the studies used/sited as proof that 2nd smoke kills are bullshit, I dont smoke, infact cig smoke makes me physically ill(allergies, funny enough quality cigars and pipe tobacco are fine....) BUT, Im all about accuracy and fact, and the fact is, that those studies you people believe are bullshit, just as the study that said vaccinations=autism was bullshit(the guy who did it infact admitted he lied to get paid and ended up in some serious trouble)
funny enough, the stuff that many studies show is making tobacco so bad is the crap they add to it, the tar, extra nicotine, pesticides(in the plant and those they dont clean off due to them helping cause greater addiction), seems natural isnt that harmful, just the human modified crap most people are addicted to....
true story, a buddy of mine got off a 5 pack a day addiction to cigs by smoking high end pipe tobacco then slowly quitting that(other then a rare occasion when he has a smoke when fishing or the like)
i just hope this dosnt happen to weed as it becomes legal in more and more places.
On the post: Senator Wyden Takes A Stand Against Overbroad Tax On Internet Transactions
Re: Re: Re:
amazon charges for all states, in part because they plan to or already have offices in every state.
this law wouldnt harm amazon and other large operations, the ones it would screw over are small businesses who really cant afford to take the hit trying to track online sales tax for 50states with many counties and cities in each....
services will pop up to deal with this, BUT they will also take a sizeable chunk of the profits much as medical billing companies do(i work at a chiropractors office i see it all the time)
honestly, the way i see it, if they want to do something like this, make it a single tax set as a median rate(average of sales taxes across the nation), then distribute the tax based on purchases per location to the states/counties/cities/exct.
but the people behind this have a goal, its to put small time entailers out of business, make it not worth the trouble to sell online.
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Re: Re: Re: Unfair burden?
gotta love the way the the right and left think....no true logic or objective facts can change their viewpoints....
i feel both sides are a bit retarded....:P
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wonder if that would boost box office and bluray/dvd sales?
yes i know it sounds nuts but, force everybody back to 56k speeds at best, full blocking at worst would really get the public's attention to the problem.
On the post: Megaupload Points Out That The DOJ Has Contradicted Itself Concerning Legality Of Serving Megaupload
Re: Re: Re: SO no US address = immune from all prosecution?
see, the US govt likes to go after people for things that are legal in their own countries, or go after people because their corporate masters dont like them(kim dotcom and that kid from the UK they want to send to prison for running a streaming link site that was/is legal in the UK)
people just need to accept that US law is world law (or at least thats what idiots like OOTB and our own govt, and their corporate masters think.
On the post: CISPA Renders Online Privacy Agreements Meaningless, But Sponsor Sees No Reason To Fix That
Re: Re: does this really surprise anybody?
im tired of the Fascist's ruling this country, every pres in my lifetimes been one saddly....just gotten alot worse in recent years....
welcome to the "Incorporated States of Fascist America" as my friends father constantly puts it.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Hackers are minor alongside Microsoft.
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Re: Re: dumb them down
http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/07/photos-evangelical-curricula-louisiana-tax-doll ars
yes there are textbooks in use, in schools being given public dollars that really do say things like
1. Dinosaurs and humans probably hung out
2. Dragons were totally real
3. "God used the Trail of Tears to bring many Indians to Christ."
4. Africa needs religion
5. Slave masters were nice guys
6. The KKK was A-OK
7. The Great Depression wasn't as bad as the liberals made it sound
8. SCOTUS enslaved fetuses
9. The Red Scare isn't over yet
10. Mark Twain and Emily Dickinson were a couple of hacks
11. Abstract algebra is too dang complicated
12. Gay people "have no more claims to special rights than child molesters or rapists."
13. "Global environmentalists have said and written enough to leave no doubt that their goal is to destroy the prosperous economies of the world's richest nations."
14. Globalization is a precursor to rapture
so yeah, we got no room to talk about crazy shit in text books....worst pat of the above is.....its PUBLIC MONEY being used to pay for that "education"......
On the post: CISPA Renders Online Privacy Agreements Meaningless, But Sponsor Sees No Reason To Fix That
from what I gather, many of these old people do not understand internet culture or modern culture at all, and they long for the days they grew up in where radio was a new amazing thing.
many of them have also been in office so long that they are so out of touch with the reality of living in this world/culture that they just cant relate to normal people.
they get 6 figure salaries and medical benefits for life once they enter office, how could they understand what its like to be one of "we the people" when they havent been for decades?
honestly, despite all the jokes, at least ted stevens tried to understand the modern world, even if he really didnt get it in detail, at least he got that net neutrality was important....
makes me sad, but till all these old men and technophobic troglodytes die off or are ousted from office and replaced by people who at least sort of get it....we will be stuck with this kinda BS where they are trying to regulate and control something that they have zero actual understanding of....
On the post: CISPA Renders Online Privacy Agreements Meaningless, But Sponsor Sees No Reason To Fix That
does this really surprise anybody?
this is the U.S. Govt we are talking about, not a group of people that are in touch with reality, and not a group of people known for their high moral and ethical standards.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Ditto
On the post: Judge's Random, Unrelated Rant Against Facebook Leads To Child Porn Sentence Being Overturned
Re: Re:
not all old people are like this, and some young people are....hell, for all the fun people made of ted stevens, at least he tried and at least he got that net neutrality was important....
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Re: Re: Re:
On the post: How Big Agribusiness Is Heading Off The Threat From Seed Generics -- And Failing To Keep The Patent Bargain
Re: Re:
even with all the stuff thats come out showing that last seasons corn was really bad...nothing as been or will be done, because monsanto has the money so they make the rules.
I say there should be testing thats like getting a drug approved(though thats a joke to, drugs proven safe in the rest of the world are held up till a US drug company puts something out that does the same thing)
we need strict long term testing....if we had that, im sure many things wouldnt be allowed in our food...aspartame.....you know the stuff that can kill rats...and that many americans including my own father are addicted to in the form of diet soda....
welcome to the incorporated states of america, whatever is best for the biggest business, is what society gets.
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