But, as ever, as soon as private companies do something you don't like, "libertarians" dive straight in to demand government control.
You mistake me for someone else. I didn’t say anything about government control.
Nor anything about forced a peach such as mandating broadcasting.
Nay, all I said was another voice has been silenced.
If you people keep being silenced
I wasn’t. I’m right here. And have had no access to OAN. It’s not on Xfinity.
My opinion, or even knowledge, of a voice doesn’t change my support for all voices to speak and be heard.
Ye fool.
You’re human progression lands you clearly in the religious and philosophical burnings of olde.
If you don’t understand it burn it.
If you don’t agree burn it.
Be it books or people.
Here’s a bit of an ‘I’m better’ moment!
I probably speak more languages than you know exist. Including dead and limited ones.
I’ve studied religion and philosophy through the ages
Be it the Republican army of god or the progressive atheist commune… you’re all fools enslaved to your master.
That you would chose to lump me in with Republicans yet again proves you have no independent thought.
I make no opinion on content here other than it’s right to exist.
While you cry and many republicans rejoice for the coming closure and failure of CNN I recognise the need for the left lean against fox’s right lean.
How long do you think they will survive whilst bleeding money?
Every closure of voice should be considered a wound upon free speech.
Whilst you cheer for the fall of a station, forget not that you may be next.
If MSNBC disappears that would also be good for the country, and world.
But bad for communication.
OAN served as a right-wing conspiracy platform to counter the MSNBC left-wing conspiracy platform.
Only dictatorships exist in a real bubble.
Part of the drive for free speech involves countering arguments. No matter how fringe.
Being a champion for free speech demands you support the right of speech to exist. Start with the least popular!
Every time a voice is silenced it’s a blow to communication freedom.
If Microsoft bought Facebook and banned all anti-abortion discussion would you be happy? What if they banned next PlayStation and Switch discussions?
What if they started kicking users for selling non-Microsoft products. Then jettisoned the store/sales system all together? Because it’s easier to do that?
I weep 😢
Not for who was silenced: but because someone was.
While you sit there and worry about the bill going up $2 form a merger… I worry about what will be cut with each one.
This is nothing more than another set of voices being silenced.
the fact that all you managed to send was a team of
I have to commend you on sticking to your beliefs.
But I remind you there is more than the two new-worthy parties in this country. I didn’t send anyone anywhere.
I didn’t put much effort into watching anything either. All of my response to Jan 6 is from publicly available video footage.
And I’d like to remind you protests in general rarely make any immediate change. If any at all.
It’s a public announcement by a group of like minded individuals.
While you harp on a few private citizen criminals who vandalised and trespassed—as bad as it was— and paint the whole of the protest FNC style as violent…
I’m looking at the large number of violations in election law across the country.
It’s not who won for me.
It’s the damage at the state and local levels.
There was no wide spread fraud this election.
What we did have was wide scale violation of LAW! And as of today none of those state or local members of government who issued orders in violation of election law have been heals accountable for. Their most grievous of crimes against the election system. Crimes against the citizens of this nation.
The very nature of our Republic depends on the citizen faith, and involvement, in the governmental process. The monitoring and verification.
Checks and balances.
Instead 2020 produced for us dictators who changed, modified, and ignored, the election process at will. Outside of the legislative system.
Very few people doubt a Biden win. Very very few.
For many Republicans, and a number of independents, the result isn’t what’s actually the problem.
The fact that more Biden votes were found in places proves errors happened. It has nothing to do with Trump or Biden for a large number of the complainers. It’s the process. The integrity of the process.
Those concerned with the process would have likely been satisfied with a full national recount.
I would have been.
Myself, I didn’t/don’t question the result.
None of this would have happened at all if the doubt wasn’t a big open door in the first place.
Removing or reducing the watchers — those that watch the vote and those that watch the count — what’s what gave rise to the opportunity for a fringe idea to become mainstream in the first place.
A single snowflake that became a snow-boulder from hell.
The only thing that needs to be done now is make sure no governor nor mayor nor whatever is ever allowed to make such changes outside of law again.
Because it’s not fraud that is of concern for many. It’s the proven potential for it. The more you reduce the verification the more opportunity there is for fraud.
Well, one thing I could say; anyone who’s ever been in a liquor store will notice the energy drinks right next to the malts and coolers and etc.
so bitching about branding on drinks sold side by side is actually one of their more* reasonable assaults. Reasonable in relation to general brand crap complaints.
That doesn't mean that the people who didn't should not face consequences.
We don’t disagree.
just find a friendly officer
There’s no law that was broken there. You are allowed to peacefully assemble. It’s in the constitution. And the patriot act allows law enforcement to determine where.
violently breached
That’s the problem with what the media is saying.
They’re separate concurrent actions.
Small groups of violent thugs broke the law while a vast peaceful protest took place. I have consistently said those that broke the law should be punished.
Those that broke windows, passed barriers… those that entered private halls and offices… punish them.
Those that walked in the front door with permission from the police, then walked out the front door when told to do so: should not.
you'd have a different take on the subject
No, I wouldn’t. I’ve constantly called for the law breakers to be punished.
The only difference here is in the Democrat response.
Because Jan 6 was a “mostly peaceful protest” the same as all the BLM ones.
Democrats and their media support are intentionally only showing the small violent group after ignoring the small violent groups at the BLM protests.
Here again is the issue so ignored: the general protest wasn’t against the sitting government, nor a future one.
The results of the election were questioned.
Any question, no matter how fringe, should be given 100% of the effort to investigate.
Much like 2000!
When there’s doubt, recount.
If a full nation wide recount was done there would be no Jan 6, no continuous stolen election claim. No commissions.
There would be a re-verified winner.
Most, if not all, who attended did so unarmed.
The breach of the capital occurred without armament.
The police gave them permission to remain if they did not break the law.
Multiple calls from the protestors for calm and peaceful assembly were declared INSIDE the capital.
Video evidence of all this exists. https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/walton-and-johnson/content/2021-05-18-newly-surfaced-video-re veals-police-allowed-protesters-to-enter-capitol/
There’s hours of such related footage.
From then police opening the doors and letting them in. To telling them where to stay and where to go.
But focus on the rogue group of window smashers. Outside and in!
Criminals who deserve punishment.
The reality is like most of the other protests over the last two years the 99% were peaceful.
The only wanted, demanded, to be heard.
And I agree, the idiot who crapped on the floor… throw whatever you want at that fuck.
That’s disrespectful. That’s biological terrorism.
The breach of the capital occurred without armament.
The police gave them permission to remain if they did not break the law.
Multiple calls from the protestors for calm and peaceful assembly were declared INSIDE the capital.
Because you’ll find zero history of my policy affiliation with them beyond supporting the right to our armament.
Your a partisan troll. Incapable of thinking outside your party.
My isolationist preference puts me outside of either main party.
I doubt there’s many Republicans out there willing to support an omnisexual agnostic.
And given I support capture and conversion over reduction the green streak of the Dems and their ban-it policy will never welcome me.
Oh; there’s a minor issue keeping me out of either party:
Papers please! I support a national ID issued free of charge to every citizen of this country. And separate colour coded IDs for residents and short term visitors who are not citizens.
To be required to be displayed on demand without probable cause.
Reps want to tax less and dems want to target individuals. I say tax the corporations. Any over 1B in revenue, not profits.
I support national social pay, to every citizen regardless of personal value. Of 20-28,000 per year paid 1/12th monthly via direct deposit.
I support a 10% flat tax with zero deductions and a 28,000 credit on any person making over 28,000 starting a 28,001.
I support an immigration tracking system that records every person that crosses the border. In or out.
None of this fits the majority mindset of either party. But it’s less likely to fit Republican belief than Democrat.
Or do you fucking expect a watcher to watch EVERY ballot?
Yes. As they have always (supposed to have) done.
This is the most scrutinized election in the US and there is zero evidence of widespread or organized voter-fraud.
I didn’t say there was. Rather I point out that with so many illicit, that is in violation of state election laws, changes it could easily invite fraud in the future.
A bunch of them campaigned while in office, ie broke the Hatch-act.
In office, not from office. No violation.
Caputo tried to gag federal employees.
So charge him if he did something wrong.
Trump leaned on Ukraine to get dirt on Biden
To restart the investigation that Biden got canned.
Trump violated the first amendment by blocking users on Twitter.
I disagree with this. And always will. Private space used for public governance is still private.
You have, or should have, the right to say sod off and ask someone or somewhere else.
Trump broke the separation of powers rule (steel tariffs, bombing of Syria).
Presidential power,
potentially. The president’s ability to make war as opposed to respond to war is a very thin line.
The "funding" of the wall, ie took from a military budget.
A defensive tool for national security
Using his own property for government meetings while charging the government exorbitant fees.
I have no knowledge on this
Using his role as president to drum up business to his and his family's businesses.
Just like Biden as VP, and Bush, and Clinton, and Bush.
Like Biden does now.
Trump calling up senators demanding that they change the states electoral votes.
Trump demanding the DOJ/Barr to change the election result
Intentionally inaccurate
Trump telling Mike Pence not to ratify the electoral votes.
He can say anything he wants. And as President of the senate Pence had that ability if he chose to use it regardless of Trump’s words.
and you believing in the lies.
Given my belief has remained consistent and documented, there is no statistical reasoning in a Trump win based on the other results.
Chicago
Those conclusions do not eliminate the possibility … follow distancing guidelines to prevent the spread of COVID-19 …
~snopes
…some locations may limit the total number of people in the building or rooms… ~elections.il.gov
There’s a difference between q’s running around claiming fraud with no evidence—and those of us pointing out non-legislated changes that can be abused going forward.
If a state governor, or local mayor, wants to change things you hold an emergency session, craft the changes to bill, and vote.
There was more than enough time to do that in 2020. And here we are in 22 and none on the left address this issue.
Sadly, many on the right ignore it for other voting changes such as verification of voter identity and right to vote.
A national ID for every citizen and legal resident would solve any identification issues so these bills on voter ID are problematic as they address the result and not the cause of ID issue.
But ID means nothing if we have no secondary, non-governmental-citizen, monitoring of the process and the count.
I do not suggest fraud changed the 2020 election.
I point out non-legal-process changes open up major potential for fraud and abuse later.
filling in a form (different name, email, date of birth, etc.)
Actually it’s just email address as far as I’m aware.
Here’s the thing though. This is not trespassing alone. It’s taking information. In this situation it’s the equivalent of grabbing papers out of a “bin” and walking off with it.
Public facing or not, they use access to take that information: access that has been prohibited.
At some point it must become criminal: or you give a full pass to all criminals.
Your apartment example would constitute
Systemic harassment for financial gain. A felony in my state.
Just sending a different employee doesn’t exonerate a company.
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Re: Re: Forget not the slope!
You mistake me for someone else. I didn’t say anything about government control.
Nor anything about forced a peach such as mandating broadcasting.
Nay, all I said was another voice has been silenced.
I wasn’t. I’m right here. And have had no access to OAN. It’s not on Xfinity.
My opinion, or even knowledge, of a voice doesn’t change my support for all voices to speak and be heard.
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Re: Re: millions will dump direct
Ye fool.
You’re human progression lands you clearly in the religious and philosophical burnings of olde.
If you don’t understand it burn it.
If you don’t agree burn it.
Be it books or people.
Here’s a bit of an ‘I’m better’ moment!
I probably speak more languages than you know exist. Including dead and limited ones.
I’ve studied religion and philosophy through the ages
Be it the Republican army of god or the progressive atheist commune… you’re all fools enslaved to your master.
That you would chose to lump me in with Republicans yet again proves you have no independent thought.
I make no opinion on content here other than it’s right to exist.
While you cry and many republicans rejoice for the coming closure and failure of CNN I recognise the need for the left lean against fox’s right lean.
How long do you think they will survive whilst bleeding money?
Every closure of voice should be considered a wound upon free speech.
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I haven’t seen OAN since I have Xfinity.
But I won’t cheer any channel getting cut from broadcast. No matter who they are.
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Forget not the slope!
Whilst you cheer for the fall of a station, forget not that you may be next.
If MSNBC disappears that would also be good for the country, and world.
But bad for communication.
OAN served as a right-wing conspiracy platform to counter the MSNBC left-wing conspiracy platform.
Only dictatorships exist in a real bubble.
Part of the drive for free speech involves countering arguments. No matter how fringe.
Being a champion for free speech demands you support the right of speech to exist. Start with the least popular!
Every time a voice is silenced it’s a blow to communication freedom.
If Microsoft bought Facebook and banned all anti-abortion discussion would you be happy? What if they banned next PlayStation and Switch discussions?
What if they started kicking users for selling non-Microsoft products. Then jettisoned the store/sales system all together? Because it’s easier to do that?
I weep 😢
Not for who was silenced: but because someone was.
While you sit there and worry about the bill going up $2 form a merger… I worry about what will be cut with each one.
This is nothing more than another set of voices being silenced.
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In scraping
If you post it publicly it should be legal to look at.
Data scraping for any reason should on its own be legal. Be if face images or flight tickets.
Once it’s visible it’s visible.
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I have to commend you on sticking to your beliefs.
But I remind you there is more than the two new-worthy parties in this country.
I didn’t send anyone anywhere.
I didn’t put much effort into watching anything either. All of my response to Jan 6 is from publicly available video footage.
And I’d like to remind you protests in general rarely make any immediate change. If any at all.
It’s a public announcement by a group of like minded individuals.
While you harp on a few private citizen criminals who vandalised and trespassed—as bad as it was— and paint the whole of the protest FNC style as violent…
I’m looking at the large number of violations in election law across the country.
It’s not who won for me.
It’s the damage at the state and local levels.
There was no wide spread fraud this election.
What we did have was wide scale violation of LAW! And as of today none of those state or local members of government who issued orders in violation of election law have been heals accountable for. Their most grievous of crimes against the election system. Crimes against the citizens of this nation.
The very nature of our Republic depends on the citizen faith, and involvement, in the governmental process. The monitoring and verification.
Checks and balances.
Instead 2020 produced for us dictators who changed, modified, and ignored, the election process at will. Outside of the legislative system.
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I stand corrected. They use faraday cages.
My bad 😞
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Very few people doubt a Biden win. Very very few.
For many Republicans, and a number of independents, the result isn’t what’s actually the problem.
The fact that more Biden votes were found in places proves errors happened. It has nothing to do with Trump or Biden for a large number of the complainers. It’s the process. The integrity of the process.
Those concerned with the process would have likely been satisfied with a full national recount.
I would have been.
Myself, I didn’t/don’t question the result.
None of this would have happened at all if the doubt wasn’t a big open door in the first place.
Removing or reducing the watchers — those that watch the vote and those that watch the count — what’s what gave rise to the opportunity for a fringe idea to become mainstream in the first place.
A single snowflake that became a snow-boulder from hell.
The only thing that needs to be done now is make sure no governor nor mayor nor whatever is ever allowed to make such changes outside of law again.
Because it’s not fraud that is of concern for many. It’s the proven potential for it. The more you reduce the verification the more opportunity there is for fraud.
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Liquor?
Well, one thing I could say; anyone who’s ever been in a liquor store will notice the energy drinks right next to the malts and coolers and etc.
so bitching about branding on drinks sold side by side is actually one of their more* reasonable assaults. Reasonable in relation to general brand crap complaints.
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We don’t disagree.
There’s no law that was broken there. You are allowed to peacefully assemble. It’s in the constitution. And the patriot act allows law enforcement to determine where.
That’s the problem with what the media is saying.
They’re separate concurrent actions.
Small groups of violent thugs broke the law while a vast peaceful protest took place. I have consistently said those that broke the law should be punished.
Those that broke windows, passed barriers… those that entered private halls and offices… punish them.
Those that walked in the front door with permission from the police, then walked out the front door when told to do so: should not.
No, I wouldn’t. I’ve constantly called for the law breakers to be punished.
The only difference here is in the Democrat response.
Because Jan 6 was a “mostly peaceful protest” the same as all the BLM ones.
Democrats and their media support are intentionally only showing the small violent group after ignoring the small violent groups at the BLM protests.
Here again is the issue so ignored: the general protest wasn’t against the sitting government, nor a future one.
The results of the election were questioned.
Any question, no matter how fringe, should be given 100% of the effort to investigate.
Much like 2000!
When there’s doubt, recount.
If a full nation wide recount was done there would be no Jan 6, no continuous stolen election claim. No commissions.
There would be a re-verified winner.
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Joe Lieberman Redux
Strikes again!
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Re:
Most, if not all, who attended did so unarmed.
The breach of the capital occurred without armament.
The police gave them permission to remain if they did not break the law.
Multiple calls from the protestors for calm and peaceful assembly were declared INSIDE the capital.
Video evidence of all this exists.
https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/walton-and-johnson/content/2021-05-18-newly-surfaced-video-re veals-police-allowed-protesters-to-enter-capitol/
There’s hours of such related footage.
From then police opening the doors and letting them in. To telling them where to stay and where to go.
But focus on the rogue group of window smashers. Outside and in!
Criminals who deserve punishment.
The reality is like most of the other protests over the last two years the 99% were peaceful.
The only wanted, demanded, to be heard.
And I agree, the idiot who crapped on the floor… throw whatever you want at that fuck.
That’s disrespectful. That’s biological terrorism.
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Re:
Most, if not all, who attended did so unarmed.
The breach of the capital occurred without armament.
The police gave them permission to remain if they did not break the law.
Multiple calls from the protestors for calm and peaceful assembly were declared INSIDE the capital.
Video evidence of all this exists.
https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/walton-and-johnson/content/2021-05-18-newly-surfaced-video-re veals-police-allowed-protesters-to-enter-capitol/
There’s hours of such related footage.
From then police opening the doors and letting them in. To telling them where to stay and where to go.
But focus on the rogue group of window smashers. Outside and in!
Criminals who deserve punishment.
The reality is like most of the other protests over the last two years the 99% were peaceful.
The only wanted, demanded, to be heard.
And I agree, the idiot who crapped on the floor… throw whatever you want at that fuck.
That’s disrespectful. That’s biological terrorism.
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Because you’ll find zero history of my policy affiliation with them beyond supporting the right to our armament.
Your a partisan troll. Incapable of thinking outside your party.
My isolationist preference puts me outside of either main party.
I doubt there’s many Republicans out there willing to support an omnisexual agnostic.
And given I support capture and conversion over reduction the green streak of the Dems and their ban-it policy will never welcome me.
Oh; there’s a minor issue keeping me out of either party:
Papers please! I support a national ID issued free of charge to every citizen of this country. And separate colour coded IDs for residents and short term visitors who are not citizens.
To be required to be displayed on demand without probable cause.
Reps want to tax less and dems want to target individuals. I say tax the corporations. Any over 1B in revenue, not profits.
I support national social pay, to every citizen regardless of personal value. Of 20-28,000 per year paid 1/12th monthly via direct deposit.
I support a 10% flat tax with zero deductions and a 28,000 credit on any person making over 28,000 starting a 28,001.
I support an immigration tracking system that records every person that crosses the border. In or out.
None of this fits the majority mindset of either party. But it’s less likely to fit Republican belief than Democrat.
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Yes. As they have always (supposed to have) done.
I didn’t say there was. Rather I point out that with so many illicit, that is in violation of state election laws, changes it could easily invite fraud in the future.
In office, not from office. No violation.
So charge him if he did something wrong.
To restart the investigation that Biden got canned.
I disagree with this. And always will. Private space used for public governance is still private.
You have, or should have, the right to say sod off and ask someone or somewhere else.
Presidential power,
potentially. The president’s ability to make war as opposed to respond to war is a very thin line.
A defensive tool for national security
I have no knowledge on this
Intentionally inaccurate
He can say anything he wants. And as President of the senate Pence had that ability if he chose to use it regardless of Trump’s words.
Given my belief has remained consistent and documented, there is no statistical reasoning in a Trump win based on the other results.
Those conclusions do not eliminate the possibility … follow distancing guidelines to prevent the spread of COVID-19 …
~snopes
…some locations may limit the total number of people in the building or rooms… ~elections.il.gov
There’s a difference between q’s running around claiming fraud with no evidence—and those of us pointing out non-legislated changes that can be abused going forward.
If a state governor, or local mayor, wants to change things you hold an emergency session, craft the changes to bill, and vote.
There was more than enough time to do that in 2020. And here we are in 22 and none on the left address this issue.
Sadly, many on the right ignore it for other voting changes such as verification of voter identity and right to vote.
A national ID for every citizen and legal resident would solve any identification issues so these bills on voter ID are problematic as they address the result and not the cause of ID issue.
But ID means nothing if we have no secondary, non-governmental-citizen, monitoring of the process and the count.
I do not suggest fraud changed the 2020 election.
I point out non-legal-process changes open up major potential for fraud and abuse later.
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Re: Re: What’s wrong?
Actually it’s just email address as far as I’m aware.
Here’s the thing though. This is not trespassing alone. It’s taking information. In this situation it’s the equivalent of grabbing papers out of a “bin” and walking off with it.
Public facing or not, they use access to take that information: access that has been prohibited.
At some point it must become criminal: or you give a full pass to all criminals.
Your apartment example would constitute
Systemic harassment for financial gain. A felony in my state.
Just sending a different employee doesn’t exonerate a company.
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Re: Re: What’s wrong?
In many jurisdictions continual trespass falls under harassment. And could be a felony.
Go means go and no means no.
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Laser printers are amazing when they work right.
I have an Apple LaserWriter that still works. Parts are hell though.
And a 2012 Samsung Xpress that’s still my default go to.
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Brother? Oki?
At least on the higher end models.
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Incorrect. PKZip was a paid shareware product in the beginning.
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