A classic example: When Alexander Graham Bell approached Western Union, the telegraph company, in the 1870s about Bell’s invention, the telephone, the president of Western Union balked at the idea and stated that the telephone was just a toy.
A recent example: the use of online social networks in the workplace for actual work.
I propose people start putting this on their sites:
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You must be with one of the old record labels, and your responce proves that you are still confused about the difference, and by saying "an entire generation has been trained to take what they want without paying" is throwing morals into the equation which is a staw-man. It is no different than saying that rock and roll is just noise and the devil's music, and insult to classical music, etc, back in the 60's.
It is a diss to think that we will need to pay to discover music we might want to own physical versions or see performances of. Stop making assumptions based on your own bias and start asking more questions regarding new consumer behaviors.
Freeloading is a market externality that can and should be ignored. You can choose to be a victim of freeloading, or you can figure out how to leverage the inevitable.
George Lucas tends to ignore Star Wars most fan generated sites and content. He knows this is a futile and would offend his fans. Are they freeloaders or just consumers of culture? They pay money for VHS, and then DVD, and then Bluray special editions, toys, new film experiences, etc. Sure, some may download illegally, but they are not the target market at the time they felt motivated to download, so no lost sale.
Sometimes you need to share files in order to further disperse culture.
Oh, and people do "want to take my work" - but if they want to syndicate it, or hire me to do something else, they need to pay me. It is not there to be taken for free.
Ah, so this is a case where the freeloading benefits you. That is interesting. Where the copyright owner thinks that freeloading and sharing files benefits themselves it is called promotion. But when one believes illegal file sharing is freeloading and a substitute for a scares good, it is immoral.
The point of Techdirt is to tell the world that trying to exclusively monetize non-scarce goods is a fools errand. Anne, you see this by sharing your works for free so you can get hired. We want the content industry to stop policing and prosecuting what right now is referred to as infringement, and spend their time developing scarce goods that are better free non-scarce goods: Immediacy, Personalization, Interpretation, Authenticity, Accessibility, Embodiment, Patronage, and Findability.
Just because soemthing is illegal does not mean one automatically needs to attach morals to it or believe it is sound economically. Laws are man-made constructs that can be changed.
I think the important point to make is that he is lobbying for legal enforcement of a business model not unlike what the AP was proposing earlier this year: to get aggregators and bloggers to pay for linking and quoting, and using moral panic language to make his point.
Indian developers have been using Skype for years to communicate with people all over the world that hire them. This move is a great way to destroy the independent web economy there.
With this guy's logic, every time a homeless person dumper dives into a grocery store dumpster and finds edible food, this is a lost sale, because of course, this person has the money, they are just to stingy to spend it. Never mind the humility required to do something like this.
Re: Re: let me make milkshakes, pudding, cookies for free
This is the dumbest comment I have ever seen here.
1. We already know what these taste like. No need to sample them. New music on the other hand is always differnt and needs to be tasted before purchase.
2. Food is scares resources with fixed marginal cost.
"You've been making insulting comments about the RIAA for the best part of the last decade and you still don't seem to understand that there is a lot their actions and strategy you have yet to understand."
Is that so? Please enlighten us. If you can't you have a problem and have proven your statement to be wrong.
@James
News gathering will not go away. There will always be a market for it, but you just cannot expect to have the same revenue anymore or for growth with a dated strategy. It is pretty simple: the news organizations that cannot adapt go away, the ones how have adapted stay around. I would say there is more investigative reporting happening today than 10 years ago. Plus, it's much more niche and easier to find.
Aren't jailbroken iPhones usually used on networks other than AT&T? If all this is true, I agree that it would not be soemthing that Apple would care about. Can phones on the Android platform be used to take down towers because they are more open? Doubtful.
... based on content it created and to which it owns the rights.
Ah, so what you are saying is that copyright grants the benefits of positive externalities only to the copyright holder. So when I sing a song under copyright and it makes me happy, happier than the rights holder singing it, then I am violating copyright?
"The exclusive right to benefit from positive externalities" is being interpreted to "promot[ing] the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
The problem is that there really is no secure way (government granted or otherwise) to keep others 100% from benefiting from externalities. It is a pipe dream.
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You must be with one of the old record labels, and your responce proves that you are still confused about the difference, and by saying "an entire generation has been trained to take what they want without paying" is throwing morals into the equation which is a staw-man. It is no different than saying that rock and roll is just noise and the devil's music, and insult to classical music, etc, back in the 60's.
It is a diss to think that we will need to pay to discover music we might want to own physical versions or see performances of. Stop making assumptions based on your own bias and start asking more questions regarding new consumer behaviors.
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George Lucas tends to ignore Star Wars most fan generated sites and content. He knows this is a futile and would offend his fans. Are they freeloaders or just consumers of culture? They pay money for VHS, and then DVD, and then Bluray special editions, toys, new film experiences, etc. Sure, some may download illegally, but they are not the target market at the time they felt motivated to download, so no lost sale.
Sometimes you need to share files in order to further disperse culture.
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Ah, so this is a case where the freeloading benefits you. That is interesting. Where the copyright owner thinks that freeloading and sharing files benefits themselves it is called promotion. But when one believes illegal file sharing is freeloading and a substitute for a scares good, it is immoral.
The point of Techdirt is to tell the world that trying to exclusively monetize non-scarce goods is a fools errand. Anne, you see this by sharing your works for free so you can get hired. We want the content industry to stop policing and prosecuting what right now is referred to as infringement, and spend their time developing scarce goods that are better free non-scarce goods: Immediacy, Personalization, Interpretation, Authenticity, Accessibility, Embodiment, Patronage, and Findability.
Just because soemthing is illegal does not mean one automatically needs to attach morals to it or believe it is sound economically. Laws are man-made constructs that can be changed.
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Re: Re: let me make milkshakes, pudding, cookies for free
1. We already know what these taste like. No need to sample them. New music on the other hand is always differnt and needs to be tasted before purchase.
2. Food is scares resources with fixed marginal cost.
Go away RIAA shill.
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Is that so? Please enlighten us. If you can't you have a problem and have proven your statement to be wrong.
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Re: I see their point
News gathering will not go away. There will always be a market for it, but you just cannot expect to have the same revenue anymore or for growth with a dated strategy. It is pretty simple: the news organizations that cannot adapt go away, the ones how have adapted stay around. I would say there is more investigative reporting happening today than 10 years ago. Plus, it's much more niche and easier to find.
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Ah, so what you are saying is that copyright grants the benefits of positive externalities only to the copyright holder. So when I sing a song under copyright and it makes me happy, happier than the rights holder singing it, then I am violating copyright?
"The exclusive right to benefit from positive externalities" is being interpreted to "promot[ing] the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
The problem is that there really is no secure way (government granted or otherwise) to keep others 100% from benefiting from externalities. It is a pipe dream.
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