The AC was making a statement about logician, criticizing him for his " attempt to broad brush the public with opinion rather than with facts", which seems to be the very thing he's doing in his first sentence.
Just because I don't buy her music doesn't mean she won't be successful with others. As I see it, the AC has no logical basis for his statement. It seems to run purely on Troll logic (Trope)
"I mean, it seems like Zach was so overwhelmed by the similarity between the outsides of two monsters that he was unable to actually read the patent or understand it's implications."
Here's just part 1:
A costume suit of a large size animal for making a realistic movement thereof comprising: a head and mouth section; a neck section; a torso section; a foot section; a tail section; a skeletal part as a whole; and an outer skin part covering the whole, wherein the torso section is communicated with the foot section forming an internal hollow, just enough for an adult to fit at standing position; and the hollow includes a frame pack fixed and installed to the skeletal part of the costume suit, in a position of an approximate equilibrium point of the costume suit, wherein the approximate equilibrium point of the costume suit is a fulcrum point where the entire weight of the costume suit is evenly loaded on the frame pack.
You can tell a patent lawyer made that. And the that's not the only part that's vague and obvious to someone reading it:
DISCLOSURE OF INVENTION
Problems to be Solved by the Invention
Thus, an object of the present invention is to provide a full-scale costume suit of a large size animal that makes or is able to make a realistic movement.
So by my thinking, you need a patent to solve how to give a huge costume suit, realistic movement... Yeah...
But please, do continue. It seems you know something from that language that explains your view to people that can't read a patent.
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" Only time will tell which of the newcomers will mount a truly credible challenge to the current system, at which time their potential customers, artists, will have alternate service providers to choose from"
So while someone like Ubisoft is complaining about piracy, here we see the gaming community giving one artist the ability to draw again. The new platforms aren't coming soon...
"After that, you attempt to broad brush the public with your opinion rather than with facts, which once again shows your lack of a logical argument."
Which was preceded by:
People want Lady Gaga, they want TI, and they want all that other stuff that sells really, really well. They sell what you want, because if you didn't want it, there would be no money in it.
Just because some people want Lady Gaga and TI, doesn't mean ALL people want them. How sad you can't figure that out.
The fact that your accounts can be frozen, you can be locked up in debtor's prison, the fact that you can be indicted on charges of copyright infringement, and you have no say in this manner, makes that quite difficult.
Ever notice how much money exchanges hands to value your freedoms?
I wonder how much 1st Amendment protections cost to have a law circumvent it?
How about the 4th Amendment? I wonder if Congress will ever stop selling out people's rights in order to continue supporting plutocratic interests instead of their constituents?
Not to suggest I'll sway your opinion, but you should also look into Greg Johnson. I believe he's advocated even *less* than Paul and his policies make as much sense. If you had those two running together, you would really have a great Republican ticket that doesn't read like it's clamoring for Big Business dollars.
I'm not sure if that's a great idea for the engineers at Google. They make platforms that are successful. In terms of content, that's not their forte. Think about having an engineer acting for the first time. It just doesn't compute.
"Give it away and pray" works albeit in a somewhat limited fashion. Basically, you're trusting that people will like your content enough to purchase.
When you have a stepping stone in place, that gives fans and artists better tools to negotiate between themselves, then that's CwF+RtB. Things such as chats with people that like your work. Small things such as figuring out what's good and bad about a game. Commentary on decisions made in a book, game or movie. Those are tools that give more success than the GIAP model.
"If you knew how to read claims you would know why this isn't true."
"Exactly. It's sad that Mike and his anti-IP monkeys don't even understand what they're bashing half the time. It's hilarious that this is an IP law blog that doesn't understand IP law."
Translation for those at home: "We can't translate it either. We'd rather start ad hom attacks on the author than actually reveal that the patent is overly broad."
It's a 4 page pamphlet on how not to advertise the Special 301 report it's based on!
Piece by piece:
Introduction
Most notably, the lack of intellectual property (IP) rights protection in Seoul’s broadband build-out early on hampered the growth of IP-intensive industries including the motion picture, recording, business and
entertainment software industries as Internet piracy skyrocketed.
False. The lack of motion picture, recording, business and entertainment software industries having affordable prices in the Korean market lead to increased piracy. IIRC, the price on video games in Korea was ~2x higher than the US because of the conversion rate. So in order to afford those "luxury items" it would cost a Korean more money. Enter high broadband penetration and renewed interest in J-pop (not K-pop) and the mp3. Enter renewed interest in hip hop and newer artists. Enter alternate streaming sources for movies that allowed more Koreans to watch movies from other countries than the smaller official channels.
Recent data indicates that from 2007 to 2008, music piracy increased 52%, movie piracy 312%, and printed material piracy 276%,
with this online theft estimated to cost those industries in excess of $1 billion annually.
. The International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) estimates $462m (£322m) was lost in 2007 alone on American-copyrighted computer games. In a recent report on Korea, the IIPA does not hazard a guess at the losses for movies and music, but quotes statistics from the government’s own Copyright Protection Center that recorded a 52% increase in pirated music last year and a 312% leap in pirated movies.
So basically, the CPC is trying to toot its own horn.
First, the IIPA's methodology has been called into question numerous times. It makes no sense that one American game can cultivate such high respect in the same place that's losing millions on paper from poor 1:1 methodologies.
Second, I can find no data into how Korea came about those piracy rates. No methodologies, no analysis of the market. However, if this is any indication, then a points system is pretty piss poor for trying to enforce these new laws. So these numbers seem to be dropped out of a hat. They were cited, but no one has checked up on them. That's the same as the citations of the costs of piracy by the MPAA. When someone checked up on them (The GAO) to provide a source, it turned out they were falsely attributed and indeed misdirected.
Public education campaigns have become a staple of Korea’s new IPR protection efforts.[sic]
It is now 2011. How effective have those "efforts" been?
Copyright industries provided more than 22% of the nation’s total real growth from 2006 to 2007, and in 2007 alone, these industries provided 5.6 million jobs to the U.S. economy
And by that same token, fair use accounted for 4.72 trillion dollars with the methodologies of Siwek's report.
But please take notice of this near the end, versus what was at the beginning:
As a whole, piracy and IP theft inhibit the development of new content and platforms that fuel the demand for broadband. Successful
broadband deployment in many ways hinges on our ability to combat IP theft online.
Right at the beginning, what do they say?
Over the last several years, South Korea has built a vibrant Internet and communications
“The challenges
technology. The country ranks fifth globally when it comes to broadband access, and the number of users on the peninsula continues to grow. The path Korea took to get there,
however, has not been without its bumps and turns...
Obviously, they built a road to broadband access. Someone's using it. They're using it for vast amounts of entertainment and newer business models are constantly being tried out with the bevy of internet options. There's been newer studies, but this one? This particular one is a joke. My thoughts about the Global IP stand. The Global IP should take its time and learn a few more techniques to be credible instead of relying so heavily on debunked stats from the industry it serves.
Look, you're the one trying to convince others that more enforcement is needed in order to bring more profits. I have the sources to back up my claims. If you can't do the same, it speaks poorly on your argument.
Let me make sure I'm following along in my home here...
By selling his own music, he can be charged with a securities fraud by devaluing the price of music he created...
And can perform anytime he wants to...
Based on some lawyer wanting to make his life a living hell for more profit. Is that how I'm seeing your argument? Is that really how you want to present it?
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Just because I don't buy her music doesn't mean she won't be successful with others. As I see it, the AC has no logical basis for his statement. It seems to run purely on Troll logic (Trope)
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Here's just part 1:
A costume suit of a large size animal for making a realistic movement thereof comprising: a head and mouth section; a neck section; a torso section; a foot section; a tail section; a skeletal part as a whole; and an outer skin part covering the whole, wherein the torso section is communicated with the foot section forming an internal hollow, just enough for an adult to fit at standing position; and the hollow includes a frame pack fixed and installed to the skeletal part of the costume suit, in a position of an approximate equilibrium point of the costume suit, wherein the approximate equilibrium point of the costume suit is a fulcrum point where the entire weight of the costume suit is evenly loaded on the frame pack.
You can tell a patent lawyer made that. And the that's not the only part that's vague and obvious to someone reading it:
DISCLOSURE OF INVENTION
Problems to be Solved by the Invention
Thus, an object of the present invention is to provide a full-scale costume suit of a large size animal that makes or is able to make a realistic movement.
So by my thinking, you need a patent to solve how to give a huge costume suit, realistic movement... Yeah...
But please, do continue. It seems you know something from that language that explains your view to people that can't read a patent.
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They're already bringing success in various forms
And one I've been discussing is the Extra Credits Gaming Fund, which has had a lot more success than it could do with.
So while someone like Ubisoft is complaining about piracy, here we see the gaming community giving one artist the ability to draw again. The new platforms aren't coming soon...
They're already here.
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"After that, you attempt to broad brush the public with your opinion rather than with facts, which once again shows your lack of a logical argument."
Which was preceded by:
People want Lady Gaga, they want TI, and they want all that other stuff that sells really, really well. They sell what you want, because if you didn't want it, there would be no money in it.
Just because some people want Lady Gaga and TI, doesn't mean ALL people want them. How sad you can't figure that out.
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The fact that your accounts can be frozen, you can be locked up in debtor's prison, the fact that you can be indicted on charges of copyright infringement, and you have no say in this manner, makes that quite difficult.
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I wonder how much 1st Amendment protections cost to have a law circumvent it?
How about the 4th Amendment? I wonder if Congress will ever stop selling out people's rights in order to continue supporting plutocratic interests instead of their constituents?
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Thanks, and it's acknowledged.
Signed,
English 101 student.
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"Give it away and pray" works albeit in a somewhat limited fashion. Basically, you're trusting that people will like your content enough to purchase.
When you have a stepping stone in place, that gives fans and artists better tools to negotiate between themselves, then that's CwF+RtB. Things such as chats with people that like your work. Small things such as figuring out what's good and bad about a game. Commentary on decisions made in a book, game or movie. Those are tools that give more success than the GIAP model.
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"Exactly. It's sad that Mike and his anti-IP monkeys don't even understand what they're bashing half the time. It's hilarious that this is an IP law blog that doesn't understand IP law."
Translation for those at home: "We can't translate it either. We'd rather start ad hom attacks on the author than actually reveal that the patent is overly broad."
Good to know guys and girls. Thanks.
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That pamphlet is on crack
It's a 4 page pamphlet on how not to advertise the Special 301 report it's based on!
Piece by piece:
Introduction
Most notably, the lack of intellectual property (IP) rights protection in Seoul’s broadband build-out early on hampered the growth of IP-intensive industries including the motion picture, recording, business and
entertainment software industries as Internet piracy skyrocketed.
False. The lack of motion picture, recording, business and entertainment software industries having affordable prices in the Korean market lead to increased piracy. IIRC, the price on video games in Korea was ~2x higher than the US because of the conversion rate. So in order to afford those "luxury items" it would cost a Korean more money. Enter high broadband penetration and renewed interest in J-pop (not K-pop) and the mp3. Enter renewed interest in hip hop and newer artists. Enter alternate streaming sources for movies that allowed more Koreans to watch movies from other countries than the smaller official channels.
Recent data indicates that from 2007 to 2008, music piracy increased 52%, movie piracy 312%, and printed material piracy 276%,
with this online theft estimated to cost those industries in excess of $1 billion annually.
I looked up the source of this comment:
. The International Intellectual Property Alliance (IIPA) estimates $462m (£322m) was lost in 2007 alone on American-copyrighted computer games. In a recent report on Korea, the IIPA does not hazard a guess at the losses for movies and music, but quotes statistics from the government’s own Copyright Protection Center that recorded a 52% increase in pirated music last year and a 312% leap in pirated movies.
So basically, the CPC is trying to toot its own horn.
First, the IIPA's methodology has been called into question numerous times. It makes no sense that one American game can cultivate such high respect in the same place that's losing millions on paper from poor 1:1 methodologies.
Second, I can find no data into how Korea came about those piracy rates. No methodologies, no analysis of the market. However, if this is any indication, then a points system is pretty piss poor for trying to enforce these new laws. So these numbers seem to be dropped out of a hat. They were cited, but no one has checked up on them. That's the same as the citations of the costs of piracy by the MPAA. When someone checked up on them (The GAO) to provide a source, it turned out they were falsely attributed and indeed misdirected.
Public education campaigns have become a staple of Korea’s new IPR protection efforts.[sic]
It is now 2011. How effective have those "efforts" been?
Copyright industries provided more than 22% of the nation’s total real growth from 2006 to 2007, and in 2007 alone, these industries provided 5.6 million jobs to the U.S. economy
And by that same token, fair use accounted for 4.72 trillion dollars with the methodologies of Siwek's report.
But please take notice of this near the end, versus what was at the beginning:
As a whole, piracy and IP theft inhibit the development of new content and platforms that fuel the demand for broadband. Successful
broadband deployment in many ways hinges on our ability to combat IP theft online.
Right at the beginning, what do they say?
Over the last several years, South Korea has built a vibrant Internet and communications
“The challenges
technology. The country ranks fifth globally when it comes to broadband access, and the number of users on the peninsula continues to grow. The path Korea took to get there,
however, has not been without its bumps and turns...
Obviously, they built a road to broadband access. Someone's using it. They're using it for vast amounts of entertainment and newer business models are constantly being tried out with the bevy of internet options. There's been newer studies, but this one? This particular one is a joke. My thoughts about the Global IP stand. The Global IP should take its time and learn a few more techniques to be credible instead of relying so heavily on debunked stats from the industry it serves.
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By selling his own music, he can be charged with a securities fraud by devaluing the price of music he created...
And can perform anytime he wants to...
Based on some lawyer wanting to make his life a living hell for more profit. Is that how I'm seeing your argument? Is that really how you want to present it?
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