Bah, should have read the linked article. So much more to add.
One problem I see is the general attitude of these panelists worrying about over-saturation of the indie movie market. IT sounds like they're complaining that indie movies used to be filtered, but now that the cost to make them has dipped, more and more people are doing it.
So why is it a bad thing that other people get to pursue their dream and Bruce Willis doesn't get paid 20 million a movie anymore?
Sam Tsui is right, you can't become complacent as a content creator, but saying that artists are running to keep in the same place is a generalization. Not every artist is trying their best to create something better than the next guy, and the ones that do and fail, well then maybe that's not their forte'.
"...but he pretty much admits that even with the power of the internet, the power of the NIN fanbase, he still can't get a new project the exposure it really needs without the labels to open the doors to other markets."
Do you think that's a good thing? That you have to go through a major label to be able to get the exposure you want?
Re: "the overall story was pretty much what I expected."
"How's the next band to apply this to get on the gravy train?"
There's no given formula for that, and because the market is over-saturated with music, it's even more difficult for bands to be successful, but it doesn't mean it can't be done.
The only problem is, you can tell when a band is only in it to get on the gravy train. Good bands do it for the art, and when they pay their dues they're more likely to gain success than the one hit wonders.
1. The information in those links was used to somehow prop up your claim that the EFF is a Google mouthpiece, so it's kind of hard to take your opinion on the information in them serious when you have such a strong agenda against "Big Search."
Why not try linking an article where someone uses objective analysis to determine that Google is in fact a mouthpiece, instead of using interpretive analysis?
2. "Mike has said the artists should GIVE away their digital content and make money some other way."
How is this stated as an opinion? You talk about it as if it's a fact. If it is your opinion, then say so.
I don't think I've ever seen bob provide a link to backup his claims, leading me to believe he never does research and rather, relies on David Lowery's ranting to support his points.
I really think that if the studios end up biting down and attempting to cut costs on distribution, they're going to start pushing for exclusive releases of new movies to video-on-demand services as opposed to theatrical release. There's already talk that they'd be making a steady 80% of the cut from VOD premium showings(http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/01/hollywood-video-on-demand-cinema) and overhead costs would be minimal (no more reproducing film prints).
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One problem I see is the general attitude of these panelists worrying about over-saturation of the indie movie market. IT sounds like they're complaining that indie movies used to be filtered, but now that the cost to make them has dipped, more and more people are doing it.
So why is it a bad thing that other people get to pursue their dream and Bruce Willis doesn't get paid 20 million a movie anymore?
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People getting paid for work is definitely not important, right?
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Mmhahahahahahahaha..err..mmm...ugh I just laughed so hard I knocked the wind out of myself.
The rest of your post is sort of off-topic, which is not really conducive to new or interesting opinions, bob.
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And yet, here you are commenting on it.
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Mike, y u make article supporting Random House, then make article not supporting Random House?!!?!
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Frankly, why can;t these companies just be honest, do they really think the public is stupid enough not to realize they're being disingenuous?
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For example, every time bob says "paywall" it could be replaced with "doo doo butter."
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Do you think that's a good thing? That you have to go through a major label to be able to get the exposure you want?
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Re: "the overall story was pretty much what I expected."
There's no given formula for that, and because the market is over-saturated with music, it's even more difficult for bands to be successful, but it doesn't mean it can't be done.
The only problem is, you can tell when a band is only in it to get on the gravy train. Good bands do it for the art, and when they pay their dues they're more likely to gain success than the one hit wonders.
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Who is "we"?
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Plus, the biggest problem with the cable packages is the price you pay for what you're getting, not the choice of channels.
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Why not try linking an article where someone uses objective analysis to determine that Google is in fact a mouthpiece, instead of using interpretive analysis?
2. "Mike has said the artists should GIVE away their digital content and make money some other way."
How is this stated as an opinion? You talk about it as if it's a fact. If it is your opinion, then say so.
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This isn't a two page news article, this is a full on book and holds more value than a news article.
Besides, I don't see NYT giving the option to pay all the money forward to the author or to charity.
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