Keith Alexander. The bureacracy of the system made him quite powerful. Him, James Clapper, and many others that ensure that things they don't like never see the light of day. Meanwhile, the public can't change these bureaucrats unless they can force them in the spotlight through these types of leaks.
But if we want things to change, making the Intel community out to be the enemy isn't going to work.
Ma'am, I applaud your work but I believe you have to consider what our history has told us about the intelligence community. They are very small and they have great power over the public. This isn't just one incident. It goes back to the 1930s and the problems inherent when you give people a lot of power.
The intelligence community has another stain on it called James Clapper. During the 1980s, it added Oliver North. Preceding that, it was Hunt and Hoover. These are people that show us what happens when you give the intelligence community power. They corrupt. And their corruption has dire effects on the democratic republic they're supposed to uphold.
During the Church committee, there were laws passed to stop just such behavior. But like any business, the intelligence community routed around those issues.
This has been going on far longer than most of us have been alive. It's time to take away their power and have their actions discussed and punishments found out by the people who have had their lives affected by their decisions.
So let's get this straight... The reason that AT&T and Verizon hold a monopoly in America is because they buy our government. Source
That's money that comes from taxpayers, who hold jobs, give money to provide goods and services and be protected from monopsonies. Monopsony
Our government has responded to the richest persons out there and worked damn hard to protect them. Bankers, AT&T, Verizon, etc. And we've gotten expensive broadband services, very poor public schools, and representatives that essentially do everything to protect the rich.
And we have the government using information laundering to throw people in jail.
Who in their RIGHT MINDS believes this should be valid, legal, or a way a society works? We literally have people starving on the streets and instead of giving them a place to stay, we just throw them in jail, making them criminals, and make them worse off?
Is this literally what America has become? A place to make us a slave to technology instead of working for much better progress?
How the hell do these people sleep at night knowing that their actions throw innocent people in jail and is part of a corruption laundering process which the mafia would approve of?
"If you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"
So let me get this straight... The LEOs can take all of the relevant information, all of the drops in basic policing, and they can create terrorists, but they can't convict without information laundering?
What are you hiding DoJ? The secrets are out. You don't represent the public. You represent bankers over activists. You represent a small minority and you convict the majority. You created a monster and now you don't want to show them due process?
Does the state hierarchy need to be leaked in order to get you to come clean? Show the evidence. Give this man his due process.
Part of our mission is to protect New York City citizens from becoming terrorists.
What happens when your government can't protect you from itself?
I believe we get the NSA and the NYPD and their own brand of vigilante justice. This is what happens when a government is scared to death of having to change its policies to ensure that everyone has their rights instead of the select few.
Jefferson: "An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much."
Comment: The gov't ought to turn a relatively blind eye to the criminality of rebellious misbehaviors in exchange for the valuable identification of needed reforms that were disclosed.
So does that mean that Jefferson was warning people about the Streisand effect?
The fact that you learn and talk to people on online MMOs should say something about social interactivity. It's kind of funny... I hear so much about people hooking up through WoW and having more successful dates than some crazy online dating service. I wonder why...
Further more, the innocents in this case are getting too numerous to ignore...
Aaron Schwartz...
Richard O Dwyer...
Justin Carter...
What the hell is going on here? How many more people's lives have to suffer for a quota system that only benefits the very few?
How does this sound like freedom and opportunity when the only people that can have their liberties are the ones funding the government and its actions?
We have a lot of things that need changing. Copyright is a small one but looking at how the mission creep of the government's actions have basically shown it to destroy people's lives more than it helps, I think it's time to address the bigger issue here. Our government seriously needs an overhaul in how it does business because these destruction to people for jail time is not serving the world all that well.
So... Obama has basically told us that his MO is to cover for the state as much as possible. Given that Manning's only crime is exposing the secrets of the government, it's not a surprise that they went to give him as much time as possible.
They didn't want the audits. They just wanted the power. That's it. All he wanted was to change public perception around these leaks. The enemy of the state is the people itself, and Obama along with these high ranking officials don't want to be answerable to the public.
It reminds me of the movie "Cool Hand Luke". Hell, let's update that to Major Payne. You have a Nasty Drill Seargeant man in charge aiming to destroy the morale of kids or the prisoners in his care and after putting the people through hell what does he say? "What we have here is a failure to communicate!"
Yeah, that's a great motto for those in charge...
Release documents piecemeal until a new leak exposes more, betraying the role of our Constitution, and giving more power to corporate interests has basically caused us to see the problems of our democracy as it stands now.
The bureacracy hs the state, the spiritual essence of society, in its possession, as its private property The general spirit of the bureacracy is the secret, the mystery preserved within itself by the hierarchy and against the outside world by being a closed corporation. Avowed political spirit, as also political mindedness, therfore appears to the bureacracy as treason against its mystery. hence, authority is the basis of its knowledge, and the deification of authority is its conviction
What Snowden and Manning have done is betray this cabal and given secrets to the enemy of the state: The public.
The mergeance of corporate state with Allen Booz and the NSA has given us a lot of secrecy and we have the results.
Growing inequality...
State propaganda...
Execution of Americans for doing nothing more than living their lives with their behaviors being more and more criminalized as we speak.
We seriously need a change in our lives because THIS is truly atrocious for being able to go on for so long.
Honestly, her gender had nothing to do with this. She's in a position of power, she is fighting for the most powerful, and she is trying to ignore the huge numbers of problems that her position is supposed to cover.
I know that had to be one of the hardest decisions to make in quite some time. Instead of compromising even one person, Lavabit shut down the entire service and made the US look even worse than in everything else that Snowden has been leaking.
I honestly don't know how this can continue. Given that this is in the 5th Circuit which believes more in the law and order type of precedents, it seems that Lavabit is in for a tough road of fighting for the Constitution.
Very true. Although, I do think we need some better ways to "update" our democracy from version 1.0.
Things like Duverger's law and alternative voting systems would work a lot. I do want to get rid of the Constitution, but it's mainly the parts that allow for slavery (Electoral College and loss of votes in prisons from the 14th Amendment) which make our nation worse instead of better.
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Re: Feeding the troll...
I may abhor some of their business practices, but at least they are trying to be honest about this.
On the post: The NSA Didn't Actually Address All Of The FISA Court's Concerns, Contrary To What It Claims
Re: Re:
But if we want things to change, making the Intel community out to be the enemy isn't going to work.
Ma'am, I applaud your work but I believe you have to consider what our history has told us about the intelligence community. They are very small and they have great power over the public. This isn't just one incident. It goes back to the 1930s and the problems inherent when you give people a lot of power.
The intelligence community has another stain on it called James Clapper. During the 1980s, it added Oliver North. Preceding that, it was Hunt and Hoover. These are people that show us what happens when you give the intelligence community power. They corrupt. And their corruption has dire effects on the democratic republic they're supposed to uphold.
During the Church committee, there were laws passed to stop just such behavior. But like any business, the intelligence community routed around those issues.
This has been going on far longer than most of us have been alive. It's time to take away their power and have their actions discussed and punishments found out by the people who have had their lives affected by their decisions.
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Yo Dawg
But now, we SEE how opaque and obtuse these proceedings are being in order to promote private interests over the public good.
And the entire point of this is to make it even LESS transparent?
I swear, there seems to be a Yo Dawg meme around here...
On the post: AT&T Has Employees Embedded In The Gov't Providing Near Realtime Searches On Nearly Every Phone Call
What. The. Fuck...
That's money that comes from taxpayers, who hold jobs, give money to provide goods and services and be protected from monopsonies. Monopsony
Our government has responded to the richest persons out there and worked damn hard to protect them. Bankers, AT&T, Verizon, etc. And we've gotten expensive broadband services, very poor public schools, and representatives that essentially do everything to protect the rich.
And we have the government using information laundering to throw people in jail.
Who in their RIGHT MINDS believes this should be valid, legal, or a way a society works? We literally have people starving on the streets and instead of giving them a place to stay, we just throw them in jail, making them criminals, and make them worse off?
Is this literally what America has become? A place to make us a slave to technology instead of working for much better progress?
How the hell do these people sleep at night knowing that their actions throw innocent people in jail and is part of a corruption laundering process which the mafia would approve of?
It's utterly disgusting.
On the post: Court Says Feds Don't Have To Reveal Secret Evidence It Gathered Against 'Terror' Suspect Using FISA
Thank you double standard
"If you aren't doing anything wrong, what do you have to hide?"
So let me get this straight... The LEOs can take all of the relevant information, all of the drops in basic policing, and they can create terrorists, but they can't convict without information laundering?
What are you hiding DoJ? The secrets are out. You don't represent the public. You represent bankers over activists. You represent a small minority and you convict the majority. You created a monster and now you don't want to show them due process?
Does the state hierarchy need to be leaked in order to get you to come clean? Show the evidence. Give this man his due process.
On the post: NYPD Program Designated Entire Mosques As 'Terrorist Organizations' And Failed To Deliver Useful Data When It Mattered Most
Who's the terrorist now?
What happens when your government can't protect you from itself?
I believe we get the NSA and the NYPD and their own brand of vigilante justice. This is what happens when a government is scared to death of having to change its policies to ensure that everyone has their rights instead of the select few.
On the post: Creating Chilling Effects On Speech Is A Feature, Not A Bug, Of The Surveillance State
Re: Jefferson to Madison on Shay's Rebellion
Comment: The gov't ought to turn a relatively blind eye to the criminality of rebellious misbehaviors in exchange for the valuable identification of needed reforms that were disclosed.
So does that mean that Jefferson was warning people about the Streisand effect?
On the post: Did New Zealand Spooks Tap Into PRISM To Spy On Dotcom?
Re: Re: Re: Anton Vickerman
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Leaving this here
The lady is mistaken
The fact that you learn and talk to people on online MMOs should say something about social interactivity. It's kind of funny... I hear so much about people hooking up through WoW and having more successful dates than some crazy online dating service. I wonder why...
On the post: Did New Zealand Spooks Tap Into PRISM To Spy On Dotcom?
Re: Anton Vickerman
I know that Ninjavideo was targeted with this information based on just Skype.
We have Megaupload being thrown to the wolves for a big dramatic takedown that has made the FBI look pretty poor since.
We have Anton Vickers in the UK.
We have the four Pirate trials of Sweden and a judge with a biased record.
And we have LEOs admitting to wanting to throw people in jail.
Further more, the innocents in this case are getting too numerous to ignore...
Aaron Schwartz...
Richard O Dwyer...
Justin Carter...
What the hell is going on here? How many more people's lives have to suffer for a quota system that only benefits the very few?
How does this sound like freedom and opportunity when the only people that can have their liberties are the ones funding the government and its actions?
We have a lot of things that need changing. Copyright is a small one but looking at how the mission creep of the government's actions have basically shown it to destroy people's lives more than it helps, I think it's time to address the bigger issue here. Our government seriously needs an overhaul in how it does business because these destruction to people for jail time is not serving the world all that well.
On the post: NSA Program Found Unconstitutional Went On For 3 Years; Started Right After Telcos Got Immunity
Re: GODWIN incoming
On the post: US Still Can't Figure Out What Snowden Took; What Happened To Those Perfect 'Audits'?
[Begin rant]
They didn't want the audits. They just wanted the power. That's it. All he wanted was to change public perception around these leaks. The enemy of the state is the people itself, and Obama along with these high ranking officials don't want to be answerable to the public.
It reminds me of the movie "Cool Hand Luke". Hell, let's update that to Major Payne. You have a Nasty Drill Seargeant man in charge aiming to destroy the morale of kids or the prisoners in his care and after putting the people through hell what does he say? "What we have here is a failure to communicate!"
Yeah, that's a great motto for those in charge...
Release documents piecemeal until a new leak exposes more, betraying the role of our Constitution, and giving more power to corporate interests has basically caused us to see the problems of our democracy as it stands now.
The bureacracy hs the state, the spiritual essence of society, in its possession, as its private property The general spirit of the bureacracy is the secret, the mystery preserved within itself by the hierarchy and against the outside world by being a closed corporation. Avowed political spirit, as also political mindedness, therfore appears to the bureacracy as treason against its mystery. hence, authority is the basis of its knowledge, and the deification of authority is its conviction
What Snowden and Manning have done is betray this cabal and given secrets to the enemy of the state: The public.
The mergeance of corporate state with Allen Booz and the NSA has given us a lot of secrecy and we have the results.
Growing inequality...
State propaganda...
Execution of Americans for doing nothing more than living their lives with their behaviors being more and more criminalized as we speak.
We seriously need a change in our lives because THIS is truly atrocious for being able to go on for so long.
On the post: How Could Dianne Feinstein Not Have Seen The Report Laying Out NSA Abuses?
Re:
Honestly, her gender had nothing to do with this. She's in a position of power, she is fighting for the most powerful, and she is trying to ignore the huge numbers of problems that her position is supposed to cover.
So again... Don't be that guy...
On the post: How Could Dianne Feinstein Not Have Seen The Report Laying Out NSA Abuses?
Re: Again...
So she got re-elected for "her team" so that Democrats don't lose the senate.
I just wish we could implement Duverger's law and have more options than red or blue...
On the post: CIA Veteran: Snowden Did Everything Wrong And The Government Respects Your Privacy
Re: It bears repeating
The FBI was created around the time of Wilson.
The NSA also comes out of the Cold War era.
Quite frankly, we've gotten J. Edgar Hoover, Allen Dulles, Keith Alexander, and people like Hunt out of the deal.
They haven't earned trust. They've targeted civilians for wanting a democracy.
I think it's time to end all three.
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On the post: Ed Snowden's Email Provider, Lavabit, Shuts Down To Fight US Gov't Intrusion
Re: Re: Credit where due
On the post: Ed Snowden's Email Provider, Lavabit, Shuts Down To Fight US Gov't Intrusion
Credit where due
I honestly don't know how this can continue. Given that this is in the 5th Circuit which believes more in the law and order type of precedents, it seems that Lavabit is in for a tough road of fighting for the Constitution.
Godspeed in some very important cases...
On the post: US Government War On Hackers Backfires: Now Top Hackers Won't Work With US Government
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Things like Duverger's law and alternative voting systems would work a lot. I do want to get rid of the Constitution, but it's mainly the parts that allow for slavery (Electoral College and loss of votes in prisons from the 14th Amendment) which make our nation worse instead of better.
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