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"What exactly do you mean then? There is no law preventing movies from being released in the theaters and on DVD on the same day. There is no law that stipulates the format in which movies can be delivered."
Those practices have to compete with unauthorised access via file sharing, which is forbidden by law.
"Likewise there are laws that prevent me from making my own free copy (or my own free access to, a view is really a copy after all, my browser downloads a copy of the content) of a Crystalball. We are talking about the same thing. You are just bitching."
No, I'm talking about copyright and you are talking about completely unrelated laws. I accept that I could have been more explicit about the point, but you appear to be splitting hairs.
Here, I'll restate it anyway: if artificial scarcity meant stuff that they were holding back with something other than laws that don't serve a better purpose, then I don't think anyone would be complaining.
The laws stopping you from hacking Techdirt aren't there to prop up Techdirt's business model.
"If people didn't feel a need to access copyright content, they wouldn't pirate."
First, I often feel a need to access copyrighted content and I'm not sure even the person that you're replying to suggested otherwise. They seem to be suggesting that actually people do still feel the need to access copyrighted video content.
Second, 'pirating' isn't reliant on people needing to access copyrighted content, but people merely wanting to access it. I've already admitted that I often need to access copyrighted content, but much of the unauthorised copyrighted content I access is because I want to, not need to.
"If someone doesn't feel like a sucker, is that sufficient to claim that they're not a sucker?"
I think the issue is that they don't feel like a sucker even after critical analysis. If you were to fully understand that you just gave your money away for no return and are happy with that, then I wouldn't call you a sucker, as wanting to give your money away doesn't make you a sucker.
'That's because it's hard to view works in "the public domain" as property. Nobody has exclusive rights to those works, and exclusive rights are the foundation of "property".'
Ownership is more of a foundation to property than exclusive rights. Ownership can be non exclusive, whereas exclusive rights by definition cannot. The fact that we have the term 'public property' underscores the fact that exclusive rights are not an essential element to the concept of property. If it were then the difference between property and not property would be the smallest exclusion, which is a frivolous distinction.
'Neither a "lens" nor "discourse" can "understand" something.'
They said "through the lens" not 'by the lens'. A discourse can understand something in the sense of defining a specific meaning. I would cite some definitions, but there are so many which could apply, I'd rather just suggest that you look the word up.
As opposed to what, Pinocchio? Please explain what you're trying to imply here.
"look for HisObamaWeasel to issue Executive orders that Federalize the territory that the TSA works in, effectively subtracting that land from the State's sovereignty and legal jurisdiction."
What do you base that prediction on? I'm not fond of Obama either, but what you're saying doesn't make sense. Even on healthcare, Obama was unwilling to rely on executive privilege to rush it through.
"Hey, Unicorn, is your horn really a potent aphrodisiac? :p"
Probably not, but they're great for identifying potions and curing various ailments. I also hear that if you zap one with a wand of polymorph then you may get a magic marker!
"The point that the NY Times doesn't make the news so they are stealing something and call it theirs is ludicrous. "
That wasn't the point. The point was that their own reasoning is flawed and if their logic were applied equally to them then it would seem ludicrous. Like it does to us when they apply it to aggregators. In other words, the point is that the NY Times doesn't make news, but it also doesn't steal it and neither do aggregators.
Re: Artificial Scarcity Is Gone... And That's A Good Thing
"Does that mean free insider badges and Crystalballs?"
You can't pirate Insider Badges and Crystal Balls (well, perhaps the insider badge). The point is that it doesn't have better, less scarce, competition. Unlike Hollywood, which can't stop telling us how it's unable to compete with piracy (or apparently video on demand).
If artificial scarcity meant stuff that they were holding back with something other than laws then I don't think anyone would be complaining.
"You always look at the wrong place to declare scarcity. There was never a shortage of distribution of movies (theaters, dvds, rentals, PPV, movie channels, etc)."
None of those options allow a person to watch a specific movie at a specific time as many times as they like. If people are demanding convenience and you're telling them that the film doesn't start for another half hour on pay per view then supply isn't meeting demand. They may compromise and wait the half hour but that's evidence of scarcity.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Artificial Scarcity Is Gone... And That's A Good Thing
Those practices have to compete with unauthorised access via file sharing, which is forbidden by law.
"Likewise there are laws that prevent me from making my own free copy (or my own free access to, a view is really a copy after all, my browser downloads a copy of the content) of a Crystalball. We are talking about the same thing. You are just bitching."
No, I'm talking about copyright and you are talking about completely unrelated laws. I accept that I could have been more explicit about the point, but you appear to be splitting hairs.
Here, I'll restate it anyway: if artificial scarcity meant stuff that they were holding back with something other than laws that don't serve a better purpose, then I don't think anyone would be complaining.
The laws stopping you from hacking Techdirt aren't there to prop up Techdirt's business model.
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First, I often feel a need to access copyrighted content and I'm not sure even the person that you're replying to suggested otherwise. They seem to be suggesting that actually people do still feel the need to access copyrighted video content.
Second, 'pirating' isn't reliant on people needing to access copyrighted content, but people merely wanting to access it. I've already admitted that I often need to access copyrighted content, but much of the unauthorised copyrighted content I access is because I want to, not need to.
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Re: Who Cares
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Yes, that is entirely what I meant.
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She is aware of Project Gutenberg, but wanted to read books by a specific author.
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Who owns the 'C's?
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Yeah, because that's such an unlikely correlation.
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I think the issue is that they don't feel like a sucker even after critical analysis. If you were to fully understand that you just gave your money away for no return and are happy with that, then I wouldn't call you a sucker, as wanting to give your money away doesn't make you a sucker.
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Re: Re: Public Resources Need to be Protected
Ownership is more of a foundation to property than exclusive rights. Ownership can be non exclusive, whereas exclusive rights by definition cannot. The fact that we have the term 'public property' underscores the fact that exclusive rights are not an essential element to the concept of property. If it were then the difference between property and not property would be the smallest exclusion, which is a frivolous distinction.
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They said "through the lens" not 'by the lens'. A discourse can understand something in the sense of defining a specific meaning. I would cite some definitions, but there are so many which could apply, I'd rather just suggest that you look the word up.
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As opposed to what, Pinocchio? Please explain what you're trying to imply here.
"look for HisObamaWeasel to issue Executive orders that Federalize the territory that the TSA works in, effectively subtracting that land from the State's sovereignty and legal jurisdiction."
What do you base that prediction on? I'm not fond of Obama either, but what you're saying doesn't make sense. Even on healthcare, Obama was unwilling to rely on executive privilege to rush it through.
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Probably not, but they're great for identifying potions and curing various ailments. I also hear that if you zap one with a wand of polymorph then you may get a magic marker!
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That wasn't the point. The point was that their own reasoning is flawed and if their logic were applied equally to them then it would seem ludicrous. Like it does to us when they apply it to aggregators. In other words, the point is that the NY Times doesn't make news, but it also doesn't steal it and neither do aggregators.
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There is an option in your account settings to set page width as variable, which greatly improves heavily nested comments for me.
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I know that one well. I have an Nvidia graphics chip in my laptop.
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I thought it was the Soviet fist myself.
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Re: Artificial Scarcity Is Gone... And That's A Good Thing
You can't pirate Insider Badges and Crystal Balls (well, perhaps the insider badge). The point is that it doesn't have better, less scarce, competition. Unlike Hollywood, which can't stop telling us how it's unable to compete with piracy (or apparently video on demand).
If artificial scarcity meant stuff that they were holding back with something other than laws then I don't think anyone would be complaining.
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None of those options allow a person to watch a specific movie at a specific time as many times as they like. If people are demanding convenience and you're telling them that the film doesn't start for another half hour on pay per view then supply isn't meeting demand. They may compromise and wait the half hour but that's evidence of scarcity.
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Re: Changing reality to suit your favorite corporation.
But, AFAIK, no one else named an operating system (or any other similar product) after it.
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Real books can do better without the toxic fumes...
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