Make up your own mind between authorised and unauthorised.
In many cases the same factory can end up making both. This can start off like they have a few spare for some reason or another, such as design change, errors, over production, and they just dispose of them cheap.
Except of course people get interested in the lower price and soon enough a big business wants to stock up. Factories are usually wanting additional orders.
Well who can say how this one happened but it seems clear that the counterfeits were just as good as the original.
I remember coming across this article that Mike has now replied to the day after the European Parliament rejected ACTA in a huge victory. I was then browsing all the ACTA news and seeing how different services reported this event.
It is then I read this article by Ewan Morrison which was The Guardian's second ACTA related news. I can say reading this pure RIAA propaganda left me very mad indeed and so much so I went on to create an account with The Guardian just to reply to this hyperbole.
Well what can we say when Ewan Morrison is simply a guy who knows completely nothing about what is really going on but in his anger about losing his new "piracy whacking tool" he spouts out his ignorance in a series of pet theories devoid from reality and mixes in rants against any other service he has a grudge against.
Yes, ACTA failed to pass, so no new rap artist ever again, seems to well sum this one up.
Hipmunk certainly have a very nice site and efficient service but what most counts these recession days is the price. That though is usually set by airlines and not by the site.
I can say I love both their format and their "agony" option to show balance between price, number of flights and stop over time. Their bar guide to flights is very efficient and makes understanding a long list of flights very easy.
Certainly they are now on my bookmarks but I would recommend to any patent troll that this is clearly a service needing to be nurtured. Should Hipmunk become very popular then they can make much more money that way in a long term gentle licencing deal. Still many claims can be junk and there can also be rivals looking to take them out.
If good news multiply the number by 10 but if bad news divide the number by 10.
As we can consider wire taps to be bad news then we can correct for this Feds adjustment by making their stated value 10 times higher or... 24,270 to... 242,700.
Now to really scare you this is most likely TRUE. If they are caught out they can just blame a decimal point slip on their computer calculation.
That is "used to want destroyed" when currently no party in this wants the data destroyed.
No the Government discovered a better plan to not let them have the money for the servers and data to be restored. Then of course to have the MPAA to say "of course everyone can have their files back provided infringement is zero" which is technically impossible.
So why upset people with stating they want their precious files to be deleted when they can instead stick the whole lot in eternal limbo.
He is not yet accused of anything and neither is there an arrest warrant. They are only seeking him for questioning.
The two women involved have NOT filed charges. They only wanted Julian to be tested for STDs. This is all one bitch assed prosecutor taking this sexual conflict and attacking Julian with it on behalf of the United States.
We may recall Wikileaks published diplomatic cables shortly before and the United States attacked WikiLeaks including having all their payment sources shut down.
So this case is nothing more than a political attack where shipped off to the USA is a valid concern.
Dealing with the good news first then at least the NZ Justice system is granting Kim a good appeal instead of just rubber stamping the forms and shipping him off. This is not so much of a surprise though due to the total shit-assed job the DoJ and FBI are making.
The bad news here is that every DMCA safe-harbour company that deals with user upload and infringement, namely billions of dollars of business, certainly wants a clarification about what the fuck is going on here? So one can hope the NZ Justice system can give this case some priority to clarify if Mega seems to have done anything wrong from the EVIDENCE that the United States is STALLING ON.
Then we do need to give Kim Dotcom, his family, and all the people who worked for him a humanitarian overview. The Mega Corporation was shut down on January 19 including MegaUpload, MegaPix, MegaLive, MegaBox, MegaPorn and MegaVideo. All assets have been seized including the car belonging to Kim's mother and even the bank account of Kim's bodyguard has been frozen. So since this first stage is going to last over a year then they need to make sure all people have their needs met and are comfortable.
As to Mega then I am very concerned that this business may never be the same again. I well know that when you are the market leader it is sure a long way to fall when you get pushed. His rivals have already moved in and taken up the trade once taken by Mega. While us supporters will welcome the Mega return the general market would have well moved on to have their needs met by others and to become loyal to such services.
So it is very true that the DoJ and FBI have already done what they intended which was to destroy Mega as best they could. This is the way copyright protection always works which is to "abuse the law" to cause as much harm to their enemies as is possible.
As pointed out some real Justice would have been to take Mega to civil court first. Then they can find out if Mega has broke DMCA law and if further serious charges should be filed. It is obviously invalid to shut down a business who intends to follow the known law even if they have been stupid, reckless or careless. Like the banks have screwed up over the libor rate and even if some people end up in jail you don't shut down the banks.
Their recordings were annoying the Police who decided to strike back at them. However this poster was unprofessional of the Police and it is good to see it was soon removed. The biggest issue here seems to be violating their privacy, including publishing their home address, then putting them at risk of assault due to the criminal looking theme.
We can learn from this that if you video the Police you may well get some objections. One can also wonder if recorded events can be seen in the correct context. So I can only feel that maybe the Police need to more welcome this community interest though some documentary like cooperation.
Well if the United States has a problem then I would not know why except for some people blaming job issues on foreign nationals than correctly on the recession.
The USA has plenty of spare land there with an average population density of just 84. Lets just say that the UK has a population density of 650.
The United States has a long history of immigration, when it is in fact hard to find someone there who was not imported at some stage of their family history, then I don't see why they would want to change now. As my example shows then anyone with good qualifications, no criminal records and an agreed job waiting for them should not have much of a problem.
The land of opportunity they call it where there is a million and one ways to make money. Proud of that they should be when for a poor country like the Philippines there are very few opportunities and many more barriers.
I believe it true to say that unless they can prove that Peter Sunde was involved in the technical operation of TPB then his trial and conviction would be a farce.
I would also like to see the person who made that load balancer server come forwards when Peter cannot be convicted of its operation if someone else can prove they did it. That is easier said than done though when other people involved in the site may risk their own trial.
Well that is just one of several charges against him and we have yet to debate the rest.
Gee after all this hard work blasting SOPA, PIPA and very recently ACTA out of the water I was hoping for a couple of weeks off to Sun and relax with a nice cold drink.
Now here we are all of FIVE DAYS LATER facing CETA as the new ACTA v2.0 and I am getting rather stressed out. They are lobbing new trade agreements at us like a multitude of hand-grenades.
Well I certainly hope they go and neuter CETA of all these bad aspects before anyone comes to sign. We can already see that TPP-A is trying to backtrack in trying to cut the public a sweeter deal and here they are wanting to terrorize us with an ACTA clone. I think I will throw up when this leave a bad taste indeed.
I provided some real life examples in my belief that the USA does not have an immigration issue nearly as big as the UK.
Yes while many did indeed leave due to failing to find work here, work ending, or social issues, but you forget the number one reason why people come here in the first place namely that the average job wage here is much higher than in their own country. So they desire to work here and send their wages back home. In some Eastern European countries entire towns have uprooted with the adults working abroad with the grandparents looking after the kids.
The immigration and emigration figures are available for all to see and they prove the UK population is on the increase. This is the reason why MPs have been freaking out for years and why the immigration rules have got much tougher.
I singled out Asia when again it is an area I know about from direct experience mainly due to my Filipino partner. I would not deny that there are imports from around the world but Asia does indeed provide workers for jobs that the locals are unskilled or unwilling to do.
Immigration is a big issue to me which is why I spent a lot of money having my partner trained as a caregiver so she can one day come here to live and work even if that work involves CPR and washing the poo off of the disabled and elderly.
Well the big issues in my life are: The recession which has sunk to a new low in recent months harming my sales. The GBP to PHP hit a new low rate of 62.9 (it used to be 83 to 85 back in 2008). The large increase in rental prices & airfare. Tightening up of immigration rules and more.
So this to me like f**k you economy and society! I have worked hard to achieve my goals in life and here you are throwing piles of crap me!
Well life goes on and I wait this damned recession to end and boom time to make lots of sales. The key to a healthy economy is the flow of money when people buy.
Well not that many years ago my brother, his wife, and their young son moved from the UK to the USA. He seemed to get his Green Card no problem but then this was a rather easy move when he worked for the same company in the UK as he now does in the USA. So this was just a multi-national company moving staff between countries as they desire.
Anyway he has now been living there long enough to be granted the permanent right to say. He seems to have a nice job when they often send him all over the United States to promote their company in trade fairs and such.
Well if you want to see a real immigration problem then you don't need to look beyond the UK. Thanks to the opening up of EU borders, along with the right of citizens to live and work anywhere, then about 2.6 million Eastern Europeans soon flooded into the UK.
You can imagine that one when you then need at least 1.3 million new homes but since they sure are not building them that quickly then rental prices have shot up by about 50% certainly in the South East area. Well extra workers is not such a bad thing, work hard, pay tax, and benefit the local economy. Except of course many send their wages back to their home country to help their family there.
The Government moans of course but they really can do nothing to end this influx when free movement of people and goods is a core concept of the EU and written down in laws as such. Those MPs that claim they will end or slow this EU influx are only lying to you when it would be unlawful.
So all they do is to attack those outside the EU mostly directed at Asia and those who have a more natural overseas job goal. We must not forget that Asians do provide important jobs here in the UK from specialist high trained Indian and Chinese chefs, through doctors and nurses, down to community caregivers.
Therefore all we have is a Government with a serious immigration problem there can really do nothing about until EU citizens get bored coming here and go elsewhere. Their attack on the slow influx and outflux of other workers is misdirected and the only saving grace is that the Immigration service is badly missing Government targets.
I don't know what you can say to this one when it is unclear how much work the British put into this creation along with what prior agreements existed to create an open standard free for all.
Should the USPTO approve this application then that would indicate that the British had a valid claim. The big question then is not so much that they own the parent but what they exactly intend to do with it?
Well in the days of Patent Warfare where even the United Nations calls them forth in concern, where major corporations assemble massive patent War-chests, then is it such a surprise that those doing the work on key systems want to patent protect their own butt?
This is not a good thing of course but it is the results of a broken parent system where parents are used to block sales from your rivals. So if the British do get this parent and clamp down hard then more then a few people will start to pee blood.
When I first saw this Declaration of Internet Freedom I well understood what they were trying do and this certainly gets my support. This is just about 5 powerful concepts which if moved forwards has the ability to change many laws. At best it could expand to be a virtual Bill of Rights for the Internet establishing key rights and limitations.
This is not about changing copyright laws but in limiting copyright enforcement to not change or harm the Internet.
It is easy to see these days that so many organizations have woken up and have realised how important the Internet is. Their eyes soon gleam over as they imagine the power and control they can obtain by carving out their own slice.
Tracking connections, compiling data, subpoena service to obtain anonymous protester personal data, and this will only get worse in time as they compile and track all data about you.
A related problem is that once Governments have forced ISPs to track subscriber data and connections to a high degree then any private organization can subpoena this data. This removes all privacy when then anyone can discover who you are based on any false claim that can fool a Judge.
So here they are trying to slice, dice, track, compile, censor and bash your Internet connection. The Internet is the greatest creation of our generation in an economy worth trillions and those looking to harm the freedom of the Internet seriously need to fuck off.
I should also add that the United States is the worst one here even up to the point of learning electronic warfare so they can one day electronically blow up your remote routers.
The United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Island is a sovereign country with its own laws, police, government and justice system.
I am very certain that the laws of the United States does not apply here any more than the laws of China, Iran, North Korea or any Middle East country.
Your mistake is that we have an extradition treaty to trade wanted people for our mutual benefit. Overlooking the unbalanced nature of this treaty, and the Government's failure to add a section to pick the trial location, then the United States is well know to vastly abuse the powers it has been given.
Richard O'Dwyer is no wanted murder, rapist, armed robber etc, which this treaty is ideal for, but simply a young college student who allowed other people to post HTTP links on this website.
We should also not forget that so many of those media files were put on the Internet by their own owners for official linking to a rival service. The fact that this media was unprotected allowed such links to be copied to TVShack. The rival site and media owners did not like this and instead of restricting access to their own media then all I can say is here they are attacking their rival.
More like he did not believe he had broken any law seeing that past sites involved in linking have been found innocent under English law. That belief alone then removes the wilful aspect needed to convict.
Also they are only doing extradition now due to their glorious failures in convicting other site owners like with OiNK and FileSoup. It is not like they are going to go home and say "Well we failed that one, it is the law, so lets accept defeat". Nope all about how they can abuse and twist the system in a new way to strike out at their enemies.
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In many cases the same factory can end up making both. This can start off like they have a few spare for some reason or another, such as design change, errors, over production, and they just dispose of them cheap.
Except of course people get interested in the lower price and soon enough a big business wants to stock up. Factories are usually wanting additional orders.
Well who can say how this one happened but it seems clear that the counterfeits were just as good as the original.
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The Guardian's Guest
It is then I read this article by Ewan Morrison which was The Guardian's second ACTA related news. I can say reading this pure RIAA propaganda left me very mad indeed and so much so I went on to create an account with The Guardian just to reply to this hyperbole.
Well what can we say when Ewan Morrison is simply a guy who knows completely nothing about what is really going on but in his anger about losing his new "piracy whacking tool" he spouts out his ignorance in a series of pet theories devoid from reality and mixes in rants against any other service he has a grudge against.
Yes, ACTA failed to pass, so no new rap artist ever again, seems to well sum this one up.
On the post: Hipmunk Raises Money... And Is Immediately Threatened By Patent Troll
Sweet
I can say I love both their format and their "agony" option to show balance between price, number of flights and stop over time. Their bar guide to flights is very efficient and makes understanding a long list of flights very easy.
Certainly they are now on my bookmarks but I would recommend to any patent troll that this is clearly a service needing to be nurtured. Should Hipmunk become very popular then they can make much more money that way in a long term gentle licencing deal. Still many claims can be junk and there can also be rivals looking to take them out.
On the post: Gov't Says They Requested 24,270 Wiretaps In Total; Sprint Alone Says They Received Over 50k Requests
That damned decimal point
If good news multiply the number by 10 but if bad news divide the number by 10.
As we can consider wire taps to be bad news then we can correct for this Feds adjustment by making their stated value 10 times higher or... 24,270 to... 242,700.
Now to really scare you this is most likely TRUE. If they are caught out they can just blame a decimal point slip on their computer calculation.
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No the Government discovered a better plan to not let them have the money for the servers and data to be restored. Then of course to have the MPAA to say "of course everyone can have their files back provided infringement is zero" which is technically impossible.
So why upset people with stating they want their precious files to be deleted when they can instead stick the whole lot in eternal limbo.
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The two women involved have NOT filed charges. They only wanted Julian to be tested for STDs. This is all one bitch assed prosecutor taking this sexual conflict and attacking Julian with it on behalf of the United States.
We may recall Wikileaks published diplomatic cables shortly before and the United States attacked WikiLeaks including having all their payment sources shut down.
So this case is nothing more than a political attack where shipped off to the USA is a valid concern.
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14+ months later
Dealing with the good news first then at least the NZ Justice system is granting Kim a good appeal instead of just rubber stamping the forms and shipping him off. This is not so much of a surprise though due to the total shit-assed job the DoJ and FBI are making.
The bad news here is that every DMCA safe-harbour company that deals with user upload and infringement, namely billions of dollars of business, certainly wants a clarification about what the fuck is going on here? So one can hope the NZ Justice system can give this case some priority to clarify if Mega seems to have done anything wrong from the EVIDENCE that the United States is STALLING ON.
Then we do need to give Kim Dotcom, his family, and all the people who worked for him a humanitarian overview. The Mega Corporation was shut down on January 19 including MegaUpload, MegaPix, MegaLive, MegaBox, MegaPorn and MegaVideo. All assets have been seized including the car belonging to Kim's mother and even the bank account of Kim's bodyguard has been frozen. So since this first stage is going to last over a year then they need to make sure all people have their needs met and are comfortable.
As to Mega then I am very concerned that this business may never be the same again. I well know that when you are the market leader it is sure a long way to fall when you get pushed. His rivals have already moved in and taken up the trade once taken by Mega. While us supporters will welcome the Mega return the general market would have well moved on to have their needs met by others and to become loyal to such services.
So it is very true that the DoJ and FBI have already done what they intended which was to destroy Mega as best they could. This is the way copyright protection always works which is to "abuse the law" to cause as much harm to their enemies as is possible.
As pointed out some real Justice would have been to take Mega to civil court first. Then they can find out if Mega has broke DMCA law and if further serious charges should be filed. It is obviously invalid to shut down a business who intends to follow the known law even if they have been stupid, reckless or careless. Like the banks have screwed up over the libor rate and even if some people end up in jail you don't shut down the banks.
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Their recordings were annoying the Police who decided to strike back at them. However this poster was unprofessional of the Police and it is good to see it was soon removed. The biggest issue here seems to be violating their privacy, including publishing their home address, then putting them at risk of assault due to the criminal looking theme.
We can learn from this that if you video the Police you may well get some objections. One can also wonder if recorded events can be seen in the correct context. So I can only feel that maybe the Police need to more welcome this community interest though some documentary like cooperation.
On the post: A Floating Island Of Nerds... Or Just Evidence Of A Broken Immigration System?
Re: Re: Re: Re: USA versus UK
The USA has plenty of spare land there with an average population density of just 84. Lets just say that the UK has a population density of 650.
The United States has a long history of immigration, when it is in fact hard to find someone there who was not imported at some stage of their family history, then I don't see why they would want to change now. As my example shows then anyone with good qualifications, no criminal records and an agreed job waiting for them should not have much of a problem.
The land of opportunity they call it where there is a million and one ways to make money. Proud of that they should be when for a poor country like the Philippines there are very few opportunities and many more barriers.
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I would also like to see the person who made that load balancer server come forwards when Peter cannot be convicted of its operation if someone else can prove they did it. That is easier said than done though when other people involved in the site may risk their own trial.
Well that is just one of several charges against him and we have yet to debate the rest.
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Re: Vote Pirate Party
On the post: ACTA's Back: European Commission Trying To Sneak In Worst Parts Using Canada-EU Trade Agreement As A Trojan Horse
Where did my holiday go?
Now here we are all of FIVE DAYS LATER facing CETA as the new ACTA v2.0 and I am getting rather stressed out. They are lobbing new trade agreements at us like a multitude of hand-grenades.
Well I certainly hope they go and neuter CETA of all these bad aspects before anyone comes to sign. We can already see that TPP-A is trying to backtrack in trying to cut the public a sweeter deal and here they are wanting to terrorize us with an ACTA clone. I think I will throw up when this leave a bad taste indeed.
On the post: A Floating Island Of Nerds... Or Just Evidence Of A Broken Immigration System?
Re: Re: USA versus UK
Yes while many did indeed leave due to failing to find work here, work ending, or social issues, but you forget the number one reason why people come here in the first place namely that the average job wage here is much higher than in their own country. So they desire to work here and send their wages back home. In some Eastern European countries entire towns have uprooted with the adults working abroad with the grandparents looking after the kids.
The immigration and emigration figures are available for all to see and they prove the UK population is on the increase. This is the reason why MPs have been freaking out for years and why the immigration rules have got much tougher.
I singled out Asia when again it is an area I know about from direct experience mainly due to my Filipino partner. I would not deny that there are imports from around the world but Asia does indeed provide workers for jobs that the locals are unskilled or unwilling to do.
Immigration is a big issue to me which is why I spent a lot of money having my partner trained as a caregiver so she can one day come here to live and work even if that work involves CPR and washing the poo off of the disabled and elderly.
Well the big issues in my life are: The recession which has sunk to a new low in recent months harming my sales. The GBP to PHP hit a new low rate of 62.9 (it used to be 83 to 85 back in 2008). The large increase in rental prices & airfare. Tightening up of immigration rules and more.
So this to me like f**k you economy and society! I have worked hard to achieve my goals in life and here you are throwing piles of crap me!
Well life goes on and I wait this damned recession to end and boom time to make lots of sales. The key to a healthy economy is the flow of money when people buy.
On the post: A Floating Island Of Nerds... Or Just Evidence Of A Broken Immigration System?
USA versus UK
Anyway he has now been living there long enough to be granted the permanent right to say. He seems to have a nice job when they often send him all over the United States to promote their company in trade fairs and such.
Well if you want to see a real immigration problem then you don't need to look beyond the UK. Thanks to the opening up of EU borders, along with the right of citizens to live and work anywhere, then about 2.6 million Eastern Europeans soon flooded into the UK.
You can imagine that one when you then need at least 1.3 million new homes but since they sure are not building them that quickly then rental prices have shot up by about 50% certainly in the South East area. Well extra workers is not such a bad thing, work hard, pay tax, and benefit the local economy. Except of course many send their wages back to their home country to help their family there.
The Government moans of course but they really can do nothing to end this influx when free movement of people and goods is a core concept of the EU and written down in laws as such. Those MPs that claim they will end or slow this EU influx are only lying to you when it would be unlawful.
So all they do is to attack those outside the EU mostly directed at Asia and those who have a more natural overseas job goal. We must not forget that Asians do provide important jobs here in the UK from specialist high trained Indian and Chinese chefs, through doctors and nurses, down to community caregivers.
Therefore all we have is a Government with a serious immigration problem there can really do nothing about until EU citizens get bored coming here and go elsewhere. Their attack on the slow influx and outflux of other workers is misdirected and the only saving grace is that the Immigration service is badly missing Government targets.
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The wrath of the patents
Should the USPTO approve this application then that would indicate that the British had a valid claim. The big question then is not so much that they own the parent but what they exactly intend to do with it?
Well in the days of Patent Warfare where even the United Nations calls them forth in concern, where major corporations assemble massive patent War-chests, then is it such a surprise that those doing the work on key systems want to patent protect their own butt?
This is not a good thing of course but it is the results of a broken parent system where parents are used to block sales from your rivals. So if the British do get this parent and clamp down hard then more then a few people will start to pee blood.
On the post: Can't We All Get Along: Principles Over Policy; Ideas Over Ideology
Losing our Freedom
This is not about changing copyright laws but in limiting copyright enforcement to not change or harm the Internet.
It is easy to see these days that so many organizations have woken up and have realised how important the Internet is. Their eyes soon gleam over as they imagine the power and control they can obtain by carving out their own slice.
Tracking connections, compiling data, subpoena service to obtain anonymous protester personal data, and this will only get worse in time as they compile and track all data about you.
A related problem is that once Governments have forced ISPs to track subscriber data and connections to a high degree then any private organization can subpoena this data. This removes all privacy when then anyone can discover who you are based on any false claim that can fool a Judge.
So here they are trying to slice, dice, track, compile, censor and bash your Internet connection. The Internet is the greatest creation of our generation in an economy worth trillions and those looking to harm the freedom of the Internet seriously need to fuck off.
I should also add that the United States is the worst one here even up to the point of learning electronic warfare so they can one day electronically blow up your remote routers.
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I am very certain that the laws of the United States does not apply here any more than the laws of China, Iran, North Korea or any Middle East country.
Your mistake is that we have an extradition treaty to trade wanted people for our mutual benefit. Overlooking the unbalanced nature of this treaty, and the Government's failure to add a section to pick the trial location, then the United States is well know to vastly abuse the powers it has been given.
Richard O'Dwyer is no wanted murder, rapist, armed robber etc, which this treaty is ideal for, but simply a young college student who allowed other people to post HTTP links on this website.
We should also not forget that so many of those media files were put on the Internet by their own owners for official linking to a rival service. The fact that this media was unprotected allowed such links to be copied to TVShack. The rival site and media owners did not like this and instead of restricting access to their own media then all I can say is here they are attacking their rival.
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Also they are only doing extradition now due to their glorious failures in convicting other site owners like with OiNK and FileSoup. It is not like they are going to go home and say "Well we failed that one, it is the law, so lets accept defeat". Nope all about how they can abuse and twist the system in a new way to strike out at their enemies.
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