any mechanism for securing the type of rights needed for the Glee kids to do what they do.
"the valid point of the article is that there really isn't any +++mechanism for securing the type of rights needed for the Glee kids to do what they do."+++
there is . there must be. if not by law , by court -- for free fair use.
If you loose on fair use in law or court -- the mechanism for securing the type of rights needed-- are by using pictures of Presidents , & Ben Franklin , & A. Hamilton that are on U.S. government issued paper products,--
hollywood is in a no win situation with techdirt, unless they decide to just fold up their tents and put everything immediately in the public domain.
"hollywood is in a no win situation with techdirt, unless they decide to just fold up their tents and put everything immediately in the public domain."
Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
thank you,, Suzanne.
You are always a good read here.
But ( i know always a but,,, ).....
.>> BUT in practical terms real world terms:
For example:: A struggling artist , a middle class artist , let us say,, who puts his kid through school, and pays his bills 100% through his Artist fess & copyright royalties .. a writer of niche , but respected novels.
In Practical terms, in your vision , Suzanne , do you view this writer as needing to have a lawyer on retainer , to make sure he gets paid , when any is $$ due from an "infringers", "un-fair-users", or any other "non-respectful pirate types"?
The Grey Album -- a mash-up of Jay-Z's Black Album and the Beatles' White Album
"In 2004, the Beatles' ++copyright holders++ tried to prevent the release of The Grey Album -- a mash-up of Jay-Z's Black Album and the Beatles' White Album -- and only gave up after massive civil disobedience resulted in the album's widespread distribution."
Me: But I do not think it was "Paul and Yoko and Olivia and Ringo" who were involved.
I cannot find any reference to their personal statements -- if there even were any.
But ,,,,,,Abbey Road (side two vinyl) -- Golden Slumbers-- was a nursery poem that the Beatles copied and mashed.
Now Golden Slumbers was public domain then ** -- but Artist do not think in time and space when creating art.
I doubt Paulie had a problem with Danger Mouse's Grey Album.
I am am gonna guess he loved it.
Mike , score an interview with the "cute one", see what he says.
(With six -degrees of separation , you must know someone who can score Paul for you. Even by email interview at least. diversity of thought is also good when you are a journalist, or blogger, or whatever techdirt the heck is)
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"Golden Slumbers" is based on the poem "Cradle Song", a lullaby by the dramatist Thomas Dekker. The poem appears in Dekker's 1603 comedy Patient Grissel. McCartney saw sheet music for Dekker's lullaby at his father's home in Liverpool, left on a piano by his stepsister Ruth McCartney. Unable to read music at the time, he created his own melody and arrangement.[1][2] McCartney uses only the first four lines of the original poem, with minor word changes.[4]
Un -Fair- Use ,,, w/o permission is wrong,, and illegal.
"You might be tempted to assume that this tension isn't a big deal because copyright holders won't go after creative kids or amateurs. But they do: In the 1990s, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers (ASCAP) asked members of the American Camping Association, including Girl Scout troops,"
Me : It is an "artist-spiritual-ego- control-thing".
I may not like the Puritan Girl Scouts,, so they can' t use my song.
But the Spice Girls can.
As long as they rehearse in my house naked , and then ......
My Art, My control.
I do not legally, have to explain why. EVER to anyone.
Un -Fair- Use ,,, w/o permission is wrong,, and illegal.
When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
"When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway."
>> Serious question:
>> How will Artist keep "control" of use , if then it will be free anyway.
>> $$$ ,, who cares,, i am an Artist.
>> People will always give me food,, even a bed.
>> But I still want to control my art.
Even in poverty.
It is an "artist-spiritual-ego-thing" on my part.
I will share my art for free-- as long as I ALWAYS control its use. When , how , where , who . why.
(i.e. - Bruce Springsteen told the McCain 2008 campaign to stop using his songs, or he would drag Mac down "Thunder Road" under his lawyer's car.)
>>> Can I in your vision ,Suzanne, still control my art ?
But, you see, the argument presented here is that the show demonstrates the duplicitous nature of the entertainment industry by failing to incorporate into the plot scenes depicting one or more of the characters requesting and receiving such licenses.
"But, you see, the argument presented here is that the show demonstrates the duplicitous nature of the entertainment industry by failing to incorporate into the plot scenes depicting one or more of the characters requesting and receiving such licenses."
ME :Ladies and gentlemen ! The Longest sentence ever!!
Re: OMG!! BTW TP... did you happen to get the website's permission to copy and republish all their definitions of rape here on this page? Slippery slope ain't it?: ;)
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Re: Re: it's all cleared
( I rarely watch TV , except Buffy on hulu,,
, and never really new of Glee , till here.
Thought Glee sounds interesting as ART.)
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any mechanism for securing the type of rights needed for the Glee kids to do what they do.
there is . there must be. if not by law , by court -- for free fair use.
If you loose on fair use in law or court -- the mechanism for securing the type of rights needed-- are by using pictures of Presidents , & Ben Franklin , & A. Hamilton that are on U.S. government issued paper products,--
----- YOU PAY !!!!!
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hollywood is in a no win situation with techdirt, unless they decide to just fold up their tents and put everything immediately in the public domain.
ME : Touchdown. for that Mr. Anonymous Coward.
Your "ball" now mike.
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Re: Re: When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
You are always a good read here.
But ( i know always a but,,, ).....
.>> BUT in practical terms real world terms:
For example:: A struggling artist , a middle class artist , let us say,, who puts his kid through school, and pays his bills 100% through his Artist fess & copyright royalties .. a writer of niche , but respected novels.
In Practical terms, in your vision , Suzanne , do you view this writer as needing to have a lawyer on retainer , to make sure he gets paid , when any is $$ due from an "infringers", "un-fair-users", or any other "non-respectful pirate types"?
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The Grey Album -- a mash-up of Jay-Z's Black Album and the Beatles' White Album
Me: But I do not think it was "Paul and Yoko and Olivia and Ringo" who were involved.
I cannot find any reference to their personal statements -- if there even were any.
But ,,,,,,Abbey Road (side two vinyl) -- Golden Slumbers-- was a nursery poem that the Beatles copied and mashed.
Now Golden Slumbers was public domain then ** -- but Artist do not think in time and space when creating art.
I doubt Paulie had a problem with Danger Mouse's Grey Album.
I am am gonna guess he loved it.
Mike , score an interview with the "cute one", see what he says.
(With six -degrees of separation , you must know someone who can score Paul for you. Even by email interview at least. diversity of thought is also good when you are a journalist, or blogger, or whatever techdirt the heck is)
===========
"Golden Slumbers" is based on the poem "Cradle Song", a lullaby by the dramatist Thomas Dekker. The poem appears in Dekker's 1603 comedy Patient Grissel. McCartney saw sheet music for Dekker's lullaby at his father's home in Liverpool, left on a piano by his stepsister Ruth McCartney. Unable to read music at the time, he created his own melody and arrangement.[1][2] McCartney uses only the first four lines of the original poem, with minor word changes.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Slumbers
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Un -Fair- Use ,,, w/o permission is wrong,, and illegal.
Me : It is an "artist-spiritual-ego- control-thing".
I may not like the Puritan Girl Scouts,, so they can' t use my song.
But the Spice Girls can.
As long as they rehearse in my house naked , and then ......
My Art, My control.
I do not legally, have to explain why. EVER to anyone.
Un -Fair- Use ,,, w/o permission is wrong,, and illegal.
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When the labels disappear, the problem will likely take care of itself, so I don't think music licensing will continue to be an issue. It will all be free anyway.
>> Serious question:
>> How will Artist keep "control" of use , if then it will be free anyway.
>> $$$ ,, who cares,, i am an Artist.
>> People will always give me food,, even a bed.
>> But I still want to control my art.
Even in poverty.
It is an "artist-spiritual-ego-thing" on my part.
I will share my art for free-- as long as I ALWAYS control its use. When , how , where , who . why.
(i.e. - Bruce Springsteen told the McCain 2008 campaign to stop using his songs, or he would drag Mac down "Thunder Road" under his lawyer's car.)
>>> Can I in your vision ,Suzanne, still control my art ?
how ?
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But, you see, the argument presented here is that the show demonstrates the duplicitous nature of the entertainment industry by failing to incorporate into the plot scenes depicting one or more of the characters requesting and receiving such licenses.
ME :Ladies and gentlemen ! The Longest sentence ever!!
but your point is fairly good.
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Re: Re: Fair Use?
Yes I know ,, why should I do your homework for you?
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Re: Fair Use? // What about a stock person humming a tune whilst putting products upon the shelves ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmCpOKtN8ME
"I'm Singing in the rain", Gene Kelly
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That's why I keep saying that I think the music industry in its present form will disappear before the laws themselves will be changed.
Suzanne , you are VERY Smart.
Listen to her words you Pirates.
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but I ask you Suzanne: **do artist still keep control of their art** -- in your very probable future?
how ?
really curious about what u think there.
Best
TP
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No, the law needs to change ASAP.
Ans : welcome to democracy .
checks and balances.
Law is slow sometimes.
but eventually
democracy do Ok,
Perfect no.
Ok just , Ok .
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vote.
Lobby.
Organize..
debate,
Learn,
read.
THINK.
Live,
Love.
don't be a pirate
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Or, you know, STOP FREAKING SUING PEOPLE for fair use.
ANS : the courts decide fair use on the facts of law.
settle out of court, please.
saves everyone money.
why feed lawyers?
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Re: Re: Fiction / Not with 3DTV :p / What happens inside your TV stays inside your TV.
0
my landlord is not happy withe the noise, with all those pirates screaming.
sue me
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Re: OMG!! BTW TP... did you happen to get the website's permission to copy and republish all their definitions of rape here on this page? Slippery slope ain't it?: ;)
Mike would agree , or he would take it down.
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again i am ONLY copmaring legal and illegal, Not making moral judgement as to the crime.
good deeds. beer ( 21 and older). Pizza. guitars. free speech . Love . hate . all ideas.
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illegal:
Murder.
theft .
Not tuning your guitar before a big gig, ($5 band fine)
finding a wallet with Id m and just keeping it .
Bad Pizza (sic), but you loose customers.
Manslaughter one.
Priacy , on land , on sea , on line.
rape is also ILLEGAL.
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that is the point.
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I am an artist and I don't care.
ME : actually my Whole point here!!! thank you .
Other Artist do care.
Copyright = artist control.
some want to control.
some don't.
but the Artist has the right to "choose when" and "control how".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Clause
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I know why rape is illegal but why is copyright infringement illegal in an age of ubiquitous copying? Doesn't make any sense.
Copyright © 2010 Ayn Rand® Institute (ARI). All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part is prohibited. ARI is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. Contributions to ARI in the United States are tax-exempt to the extent provided by law.
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Oh. You're a Bullshit Artist. Natch.
I could be your college professor.
Would you waste your thousand of thousand of $$
spent on college to call your proff
"a Bullshit Artist. Natch."
NATCH = naturally
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who's on first ?
Naturally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
Abbott and Costello perform the classic "Who's on first?" baseball sketch in their 1945 film "The Naughty Nineti...
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No, he's a Poli-Sci major (aka Bullshit Artist).
Put you beliefs on the line in a public democratic forum !!
good luck
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