I do not think they mean what you think they mean...
Please explain how these monsters of industry are so powerful if not from a majority of the population purchasing and/or using their services and goods? Especially since they are the ones being targeted by the so-called "victims of piracy," who, as of yet, are the only ones who have successfully swayed Congress to create bills in their favor (when it comes to IP, anyways). They have pretty much only been thrown the bone that is the (unfortunately, most sensible bill since it was drafted) DMCA.
Which has the oh-so-terrible habit of not blaming the service provider for what it's customers do.
Awful, I know. Of course retailers and business-folks should be persecuted for what people do with their product.
Instead of just the folk who are actually doing the unlawful activity.
Hey, a guy last week rode a cab to the bank he robbed! Let's sue the cab company! They're enablers!
Also, it is technically the duty of the individual to pay their... usage tax, i think it's called. That's the applicable sales tax owed to the government of the resident's state/county/town/(hell if I'll ever willingly pay a) stadium tax.
And that's where the tax break is. It's not the sellers getting a break. It's the customers. Whether or not sales tax is charged, the store makes the same amount. Sales tax just goes through as an additional fee in most states. Then there are states that require sales tax to be included in the advertised/labeled price. And more... stuff... is added to the morass.
... We don't even do FEDERAL income tax that well. And then, each state can have an additional different income tax. Or no income tax.
And that's after all the free income tax accounting services. Or do you want to use the free one supplied by the IRS (if you fall into the correct tax bracket)?
In other words, if you think that will happen anytime soon, I have bridge in Brooklyn I think you'd be interested in purchasing.
I love how people on all sides of any issue, be it copyright, vaccinations, or even daylight savings time, try to discredit the "other side" by calling them a lobbyist. Of course they are. Anyone who tries to convince their representatives that a specific stance is what is wanted is a lobbyist.
I don't like it from my side any more than theirs. Especially since baseless accusations of lobbying cannot be disproven, no matter what you say. All AC #1 has to do is call Mike a liar, no matter what he says, and we're back to square one.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Mike HAS disclosed his working relationships. He does run a business, after all. And he drums up that business by running this blog. And everyone who contributes, for or against him, are helping his business.
Remember, jerky ACs:
Every time you bash Mike, Glyn, Dark Helmet, or anyone else who is posting on here, either as a blog, or as a commenter, you're helping Mike PAY for this blog. I hope he laughs at you all the way to the bank.
An actual shill... You're going up in the world, Glyn!
@Boxpark (in order of your points)
1. Unless they do something you don't like.
2. It was never said you did. Just that you threatened it.
3. That's what you get from a lawsuit. Money.
4. I can't believe it took you ten years to stack some shipping containers. And less than a single year for someone to stack them differently, and you to sue. Moot anyways. How long you took to enact your idea has no bearing on whether you deserve "protection." This drawing I made on a notepad? That's just as "protected," except I don't have a lotta lawyers.
5. To the order of, "Play by my rules, or we'll take your ball, and go home."
6. No reply after 1 day & a weekend, no big deal. Just saying.
Lesson: Think with your brain, not with your lawyer...
Actually, if you watch the courts, it seem that your "side" is the one that is losing badly. The problem with PRO-IP/E-PARASITES is that they completely bypass the court system. The same court system that is using their power as a check/balance to Congress to correct what they see as errors in the system.
What we want is for those who are actually guilty to be the only ones punished, and then in a realistic manner. When you go to court, the prosecution is supposed to prove that you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. These bills bring law to the level of "accusation=guilt" and "guilty until proven innocent," since the accused, unless the firm suing drops all cases with any opposition, have to prove beyond ALL doubt that they are innocent.
In a related note, it is pointed out on this site that developers/studios/artists who only focus on "pirates" are making a bad move, that will most likely only hurt them in the long run, but it will hurt them for sure.
Oh man, I didn't know the movie industry was in so much trouble. Maybe they could save a few hundred million dollars a year by not lobbying... Y'know, anything that can help.
Ownership of what, exactly? I seem to recall that ownership of a movie or dvd is impossible. What gets paid for is a limited license to make use of a DVD with a movie on it for personal use.
California's... either progressive or crazy, when it comes to frivolous lawsuits. It's a regular thing in California for legal fees to be rewarded to the defendant when a case is dismissed as frivolous. But (I believe) it has to be dismissed as frivolous, not just dismissed.
Also, other courts before Hunt have found that Righthaven has no standing to initiate a lawsuit concerning copyrights that it does not own, as it was decided to be impossible to only transfer rights to sue.
Wow. Considering he based his ruling on a 9th Circuit ruling, I don't see how they can bench-slap him without invalidating their own circuit's stance on similar cases in the future (that is, the rewarding of legal fees to a defendant when the plaintiff's case is ruled as frivolous).
The car example is still relevant, because consider: What if someone steals you car at night, drives it around all night, gases it back up, and drops it in front of your house next morning before you leave for work. Did you really lose anything? Was anything really stolen? You weren't using it, were you?
If you make use of my car without my permission, since I am not able to use my car during that period, you have taken away my ability to use it. I woke up in the middle of the night, violently ill, and needed to go to the hospital. My car isn't there. If they copy my car, and make one identical to it, they are welcome to it, as long as my car is still in my driveway.
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"Big Search and Big Hardware"
I do not think they mean what you think they mean...
Please explain how these monsters of industry are so powerful if not from a majority of the population purchasing and/or using their services and goods? Especially since they are the ones being targeted by the so-called "victims of piracy," who, as of yet, are the only ones who have successfully swayed Congress to create bills in their favor (when it comes to IP, anyways). They have pretty much only been thrown the bone that is the (unfortunately, most sensible bill since it was drafted) DMCA.
Which has the oh-so-terrible habit of not blaming the service provider for what it's customers do.
Awful, I know. Of course retailers and business-folks should be persecuted for what people do with their product.
Instead of just the folk who are actually doing the unlawful activity.
Hey, a guy last week rode a cab to the bank he robbed! Let's sue the cab company! They're enablers!
On the post: The Coming Fight Over Sales Tax For Online Retailers
Re: The complexity is unworkable
And that's where the tax break is. It's not the sellers getting a break. It's the customers. Whether or not sales tax is charged, the store makes the same amount. Sales tax just goes through as an additional fee in most states. Then there are states that require sales tax to be included in the advertised/labeled price. And more... stuff... is added to the morass.
On the post: The Coming Fight Over Sales Tax For Online Retailers
Re: The complexity is unworkable
And that's after all the free income tax accounting services. Or do you want to use the free one supplied by the IRS (if you fall into the correct tax bracket)?
In other words, if you think that will happen anytime soon, I have bridge in Brooklyn I think you'd be interested in purchasing.
On the post: The Coming Fight Over Sales Tax For Online Retailers
State sales tax...
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Re: Re: Re:
2 points:
1: Corporal punishment is legal, and popularly accepted in Texas.
2: As a spanked kid myself, that was little more than a slap on the wrist.
Well, that and the fact that, having set up a camera in her living room, I think she was setting her dad up for CPS.
And since it took her 7 years to get any attention for this, CPS must have laughed at her.
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I don't like it from my side any more than theirs. Especially since baseless accusations of lobbying cannot be disproven, no matter what you say. All AC #1 has to do is call Mike a liar, no matter what he says, and we're back to square one.
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Mike HAS disclosed his working relationships. He does run a business, after all. And he drums up that business by running this blog. And everyone who contributes, for or against him, are helping his business.
Remember, jerky ACs:
Every time you bash Mike, Glyn, Dark Helmet, or anyone else who is posting on here, either as a blog, or as a commenter, you're helping Mike PAY for this blog. I hope he laughs at you all the way to the bank.
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Re: Re: Christchurch City Mall Lawsuit
"someone to stack them differently, and you to threaten to sue."
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Re: Christchurch City Mall Lawsuit
@Boxpark (in order of your points)
1. Unless they do something you don't like.
2. It was never said you did. Just that you threatened it.
3. That's what you get from a lawsuit. Money.
4. I can't believe it took you ten years to stack some shipping containers. And less than a single year for someone to stack them differently, and you to sue. Moot anyways. How long you took to enact your idea has no bearing on whether you deserve "protection." This drawing I made on a notepad? That's just as "protected," except I don't have a lotta lawyers.
5. To the order of, "Play by my rules, or we'll take your ball, and go home."
6. No reply after 1 day & a weekend, no big deal. Just saying.
Lesson: Think with your brain, not with your lawyer...
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... Hooray?
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Re:
What we want is for those who are actually guilty to be the only ones punished, and then in a realistic manner. When you go to court, the prosecution is supposed to prove that you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. These bills bring law to the level of "accusation=guilt" and "guilty until proven innocent," since the accused, unless the firm suing drops all cases with any opposition, have to prove beyond ALL doubt that they are innocent.
In a related note, it is pointed out on this site that developers/studios/artists who only focus on "pirates" are making a bad move, that will most likely only hurt them in the long run, but it will hurt them for sure.
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Re: Re: Re:
Causation is you're allergic to onions, and you get sick every time you eat onions on a burger king hamburger.
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Don't know about the guy you're replying to, but...
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Re: am I doing it right?
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Tired old ... stuff, but...
I mean, of course, all the "bad guys" will stop doing "bad things" forever.
Since the threat of getting fined will work.
Seeing as how the death penalty has stopped all murders...
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Re: Covering the bases.
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On the post: High Prices, Lack Of Availability Driving Lots Of Infringement
Also:
If you make use of my car without my permission, since I am not able to use my car during that period, you have taken away my ability to use it. I woke up in the middle of the night, violently ill, and needed to go to the hospital. My car isn't there. If they copy my car, and make one identical to it, they are welcome to it, as long as my car is still in my driveway.
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