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Sorry, I'm in Kansas and tractors are a big deal here. I can tell you it's not about pirating music (didn't even know that part). Farmers tend to get pretty pissed if you tell them they can't tinker with something they own, and that's what this is about.
Also, I'm not buying that corporate fraud angle. I'm betting it's more about forcing farmers into "authorized dealers" for repairs, since they can't modify (or really even know anything about) the software themselves.
You know, it occurs to me that this would be a perfect opportunity for Case IH to eat John Deere's lunch. All they have to do is say "you can do whatever you want with YOUR tractor when you buy a Case IH!"
Well... No (and duh) John Deere never said "You don't own your tractor", that would probably be the quickest case of corporate suicide ever. They did, however, say that you aren't allowed to modify certain parts of the tractor you supposedly own. Since the classic definition of ownership involves the ability to modify, like a book, or a bag, or even an older tractor, it's not hard to contend you don't own your John Deere tractor. So, while they may not have said it in so many words, it's still the same effect.
You know what those two cases have in common? They both were convicted for circumventing security, not modifying. So, thanks for proving his point, I guess?
Re: Do you guys EVER for a second consider the legal liabilities?
I guarantee that mechanical and software engineers had no input on whether consumers can modify the software. They have, however, made sure it runs to spec while unmodified. That is what they've always done because, as long as someone is running an unmodified tractor, John Deere is liable for any malfunctions. If the customer has modified it, either physically or via software, John Deere can claim no liability. No matter what way you look at it, this is a stupid move on their part.
Re: OKAY, we get it: AT&T, Comcast, Verizon BAD -- Google good.
You're right about one thing. Google Fiber is just a few demonstrations, but that's exactly what's needed. You'll notice that in each of those cities, the local incumbents have stepped up and are offering significantly better service and prices than any time before Google came to town. Google Fiber was never about Google coming to every city nationwide. It was about demonstrating how internet can be done well and scaring the big ISPs. To some extent, that's worked.
Saying that Google Fiber is a good thing hardly makes somebody a shill.
Her section of the graph is identical to Techdirt's one. (Not similar, identical). Techdirt just used a different scale. If anything, the Wikipedia one makes her look even worse.
Obviously FiftyFifty is just trying to piggyback off BART. I know when I'm naming my beers, my first thought is to name them after a universally hated public transportation system.
Looks like the ads were streamed from the internet, somewhere around 20-30 minutes into playing content off the local network. Not entirely sure how it was done other than they have some agreement with Yahoo! for streaming ads. Given that they control the entire TV with very little user control, it's not much of a stretch for them to be able to insert ads anywhere they feel like.
Here's how it went. People were using the Plex app on their TV to stream from a computer on their network. They were using the "smart" portion of their TV. In fact, that's probably the main reason they bought a "smart" TV, for native Plex streaming. Seeing as it was all local content, really the only unexpected ads could have come from the internet connected TV itself.
If you feel like you need playgrounds and tennis courts for your community in particular, then an HOA is probably the only solution.
In regard to the streets, do you live in the city limits of any town? If so, what the hell does your city actually do if they're not maintaining your streets? Around here, even the small towns maintain their own streets, neighborhoods don't have to do it for them.
Huh. Rereading that, you know what words I don't see? I don't see "acceptable" or "justified" or anything even remotely related to that. You know what word I do see though? Effective. Apparently, that's the only measurement for a law enforcement technique that is worth anything. So, I guess these days you don't even have to try to justify your methods. All they need to do is "work", in whatever loose definition you want to apply to that word.
"That's a justified fear, but that's purely speculation, even though we know it will happen."
If you know something, it stops being speculation. The general rule is, you don't give the people with the motivation to do something bad the authority to do it. That's why many countries constitutions (in countries that have them) expressly limit their government's powers. That's why new laws need to be narrowly defined. This law is no where near narrow enough to limit abuse (note that I said limit, not eliminate, I know full well that all laws are abused). A law like this, written as broadly as it is, will be abused in every way possible. This will have chilling effects on speech, and not just harassing speech (especially if the punishment is raised to two years). Calling it an attack on free speech doesn't seem too out of line to me.
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Re: Re: Re: This is all very nice a second time but...
Sorry, I'm in Kansas and tractors are a big deal here. I can tell you it's not about pirating music (didn't even know that part). Farmers tend to get pretty pissed if you tell them they can't tinker with something they own, and that's what this is about.
Also, I'm not buying that corporate fraud angle. I'm betting it's more about forcing farmers into "authorized dealers" for repairs, since they can't modify (or really even know anything about) the software themselves.
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Re: Do you guys EVER for a second consider the legal liabilities?
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Re: OKAY, we get it: AT&T, Comcast, Verizon BAD -- Google good.
Saying that Google Fiber is a good thing hardly makes somebody a shill.
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Re: *curses*. foiled again.
"No, but you probably will anyway."
Hmmm... Doesn't seem to have quite the same punch to it.
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Definetly infrigning
I think I'll name mine Greyhound...
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In regard to the streets, do you live in the city limits of any town? If so, what the hell does your city actually do if they're not maintaining your streets? Around here, even the small towns maintain their own streets, neighborhoods don't have to do it for them.
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If you know something, it stops being speculation. The general rule is, you don't give the people with the motivation to do something bad the authority to do it. That's why many countries constitutions (in countries that have them) expressly limit their government's powers. That's why new laws need to be narrowly defined. This law is no where near narrow enough to limit abuse (note that I said limit, not eliminate, I know full well that all laws are abused). A law like this, written as broadly as it is, will be abused in every way possible. This will have chilling effects on speech, and not just harassing speech (especially if the punishment is raised to two years). Calling it an attack on free speech doesn't seem too out of line to me.
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