Even if everything was done properly and whatnot, the fact is, does anyone trust that the NSA did this within the boundaries of the 4th Amendment?
The fact that they're so willing to ignore the 4th Amendment's privacy protections means that, even if they went about it legitimately and got a warrant for Muhtorov specifically, it could STILL get thrown out simply because of how the NSA has been behaving lately.
That's the real issue with the NSA here, is that what they have done puts a LOT of the judicial process in danger of no longer working. After all, with the evidence that the DEA has been getting info from the NSA over drug information, how long until crooks start popping up going "my 4th and 5th Amendment rights were violated" and get their cases thrown out completely?
Despite how often we see those amendments get violated, the fact is, judges STILL uphold those amendments from time to time.
So even if Muhtorov is a terrorist and even if he was doing really bad stuff, that's still no excuse for the NSA and the government to shred the constitution.
They got the information on her sources. Doesn't matter if they give back the information, they have what they wanted.
Welcome to the Fascist States of America, forget privacy, accountability and don't bother reading the Bill of Rights, our government doesn't care about that stuff and they expect you not to either.
I live in a rural area where the closest town to me, when I was growing up was 16 miles away. While I could get around in town just fine on foot or bike, going anywhere out of town was impossible without a car.
Now that I'm older, i walk as much as possible, but there's no way in hell I can go get lots of groceries on foot.
You can drive on pubic roads without a license so long as you are orderly and not violating the law, but you need permission (license) to drive on private land?
“A driver’s decision to agree to take a test is not coerced simply because Minnesota has attached the penalty of making it a crime to refuse the test,” Chief Justice Lorie Gildea wrote in the opinion.
Does that make ANY fucking sense WHATSOFUCKINGEVER?!
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Hmm...
Cuz, if it needs either, I doubt it'll pass in the House or the Senate.
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Re: Muhtorov Properly Arrested
Even if everything was done properly and whatnot, the fact is, does anyone trust that the NSA did this within the boundaries of the 4th Amendment?
The fact that they're so willing to ignore the 4th Amendment's privacy protections means that, even if they went about it legitimately and got a warrant for Muhtorov specifically, it could STILL get thrown out simply because of how the NSA has been behaving lately.
That's the real issue with the NSA here, is that what they have done puts a LOT of the judicial process in danger of no longer working. After all, with the evidence that the DEA has been getting info from the NSA over drug information, how long until crooks start popping up going "my 4th and 5th Amendment rights were violated" and get their cases thrown out completely?
Despite how often we see those amendments get violated, the fact is, judges STILL uphold those amendments from time to time.
So even if Muhtorov is a terrorist and even if he was doing really bad stuff, that's still no excuse for the NSA and the government to shred the constitution.
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Obama goes "Okay, fine, you can do this stuff, but if it gets out, I know nothing, got it?"
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Re: Obama sure isn't a Nixon
The only reason Nixon got in trouble is because he got caught cheating and the Congress was more willing to do something about it.
These pansies in Congress won't do a damn thing.
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Doesn't matter...
Welcome to the Fascist States of America, forget privacy, accountability and don't bother reading the Bill of Rights, our government doesn't care about that stuff and they expect you not to either.
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SUCK IT!
On the post: MN Supreme Court Finds DUI Blood Draws Aren't 'Coerced,' Despite Refusal Resulting In Criminal Charges
Re: And so I have no driver's license.
Now that I'm older, i walk as much as possible, but there's no way in hell I can go get lots of groceries on foot.
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Re: Re: Au Contraire
You can drive on pubic roads without a license so long as you are orderly and not violating the law, but you need permission (license) to drive on private land?
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About time
I must remember to call my Senators and Rep up on Monday about this.
On the post: MN Supreme Court Finds DUI Blood Draws Aren't 'Coerced,' Despite Refusal Resulting In Criminal Charges
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http://www.yhvh.name/MISSION_AID/RIGHT_TO_DRIVE_NO_LICENSE.pdf
On the post: MN Supreme Court Finds DUI Blood Draws Aren't 'Coerced,' Despite Refusal Resulting In Criminal Charges
Re: In WHAT fucking universe...
The judge is basically saying...
"Give us your blood so we can convict you or we'll convict you for not giving us your blood."
On the post: MN Supreme Court Finds DUI Blood Draws Aren't 'Coerced,' Despite Refusal Resulting In Criminal Charges
In WHAT fucking universe...
Does that make ANY fucking sense WHATSOFUCKINGEVER?!
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Hmm...
There's some tags missing.
Might I suggest the following?
4th Amendment Destroying
1st Amendment Hatred
Lying to the American Public
Mouthpiece of the NSA
Lies, lies and more lies
and Hypocrisy
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Re: My wife is from the UK
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How about...
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Re: Hooray!
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