But this only works for countries without 50 states, 4 unincorporated organized territories, 1 incorporated unorganized territory, and 11 unincorporated unorganized territories not those that have the above characteristics.
Try to remember that we're talking about a SINGLE, decent sized motion picture versus 10 jobs added by each of the signatory companies to Mike's letter. [emphasis added]
Thanks for taking my point and supporting it. 300 people get a job for six months or 10x(signatory companies) people get a job forever.
Even if each of the companies on that list added 10 jobs this year, it's still less direct employment than a single large motion picture. And a motion picture has enormous impacts in creating jobs in supporting businesses like catering, hotels, building supplies, truck and equipment rental, security, dry cleaning, etc.
Sure, add a bunch of jobs for six months to some podunk town in Iowa then split with the tax credits and a new car. Or ten permanent jobs in an industry that can improve our lives. (Pssst...the movie industry is entertainment...and provides no meaningful value to improving the public's lives)
The "freetard" community have been crying about new business models and whatever for over 20 years now but has managed to show absolutely nothing short of a dream of pure stalinism.
Why is it the "freetard" community that needs to figure out how to make money for a legacy industry when it becomes obsolete?
And even more important was how many seats were full in each of the other films theaters on the same night? I would venture that this was a good showing for any show on a Thursday night.
To whom is it important that the film be qualified for the Oscars?
And fixed again...your rewording just hurt. =]
Obviously Kevin Smith went through all this trouble so the actors in his film have a shot at an Oscar. It probably won't help Smith much unless he gains more publicity for it. Of course, with his antics of revealing all these numbers I am sure the AMPA will likely overlook his film.
Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased) (profile), 31 Aug 2011 @ 12:30pm
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Mike addresses piracy nearly every day, but you would call that problematic, wouldn't you? There are ways to address piracy without criminalizing a nation and trampling human rights (or as you would call it, the PROTECT IP Act) and those solutions are discussed on this very blog along with many other media outlets. Too bad your industry is too dumb to adapt to changing markets.
Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased) (profile), 30 Aug 2011 @ 10:41am
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To summarize: Without copyright we would have never had Elvis' art. Which is art, right? No art. You are the one throwing out this 'strawman' which is just a detractor from the fact that what you believe...art isn't art unless you get your cut of the profit from what you never created. Have you got that quote from Radiohead yet?
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You're kidding, right? Radiohead's In Rainbows album was widely available and playing on the radio before the release of the physical album. Then, realizing that some fans like the sentimentality of a physical album with art and all that they inked a distribution deal to make money selling a scarcity on top of what they made on the "pay what you want" income. They also toured to sellout crowds. You state that they inked the deal to make a living...has any member of Radiohead said that they would not have made music if there was no copyright? You guys keep asking for us to provide a quote supporting Nina's point (which I did below). It's only fair you provide a quote supporting your statement.
Chuck Norris' Enemy (deceased) (profile), 30 Aug 2011 @ 8:57am
Did he just say, that?
To all the trolls that want some proof of someone in industry who said that there would not be art without copyright...I give you this nugget.
For trolls who like to ignore links here is an excerpt:
Rick Carnes, the head of the Songwriters Guild of America wrote a letter to the Financial Times, responding to Engstrom, but the letter is odd, poorly supported, flat-out wrong in some spots and seems to have totally ignored what Engstrom was actually saying. Let's take a look:
Christian Engstrom of the Pirates party is absolutely correct in his assumption that Elvis's music does not belong to him. It belongs to great songwriters like Otis Blackwell, who wrote so many of Elvis's big hits such as "All shook up" and "Return to sender", and who fought for years to protect and strengthen US copyright law. Without copyright, Mr Blackwell would never have been able to create that "common cultural heritage" that Mr Engstrom wants to think of as his own.
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Thanks for taking my point and supporting it. 300 people get a job for six months or 10x(signatory companies) people get a job forever.
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Sure, add a bunch of jobs for six months to some podunk town in Iowa then split with the tax credits and a new car. Or ten permanent jobs in an industry that can improve our lives. (Pssst...the movie industry is entertainment...and provides no meaningful value to improving the public's lives)
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Why is it the "freetard" community that needs to figure out how to make money for a legacy industry when it becomes obsolete?
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I know you guys like to make numbers up but c'mon!?
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And fixed again...your rewording just hurt. =]
Obviously Kevin Smith went through all this trouble so the actors in his film have a shot at an Oscar. It probably won't help Smith much unless he gains more publicity for it. Of course, with his antics of revealing all these numbers I am sure the AMPA will likely overlook his film.
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Did he just say, that?
For trolls who like to ignore links here is an excerpt:
Rick Carnes, the head of the Songwriters Guild of America wrote a letter to the Financial Times, responding to Engstrom, but the letter is odd, poorly supported, flat-out wrong in some spots and seems to have totally ignored what Engstrom was actually saying. Let's take a look:
Christian Engstrom of the Pirates party is absolutely correct in his assumption that Elvis's music does not belong to him. It belongs to great songwriters like Otis Blackwell, who wrote so many of Elvis's big hits such as "All shook up" and "Return to sender", and who fought for years to protect and strengthen US copyright law. Without copyright, Mr Blackwell would never have been able to create that "common cultural heritage" that Mr Engstrom wants to think of as his own.
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