So if a justice system sentences a 9-year old to die by lethal injection for shoplifting an action figure, you'd be down for that? A crime is a crime, after all, so any punishment rendered is automatically justified, right?
And don't even get me started on those women showing their ankles in some Islamic countries. You probably salivate just thinking about all the stonings you could mete out for that one! A CRIME IS A CRIME IS A CRIME!
who I'm sure would love to have had a strong police presence in their neighborhoods.
Or their guns, at the least. ;)
And don't forget about the police officers who murdered two men on a bridge, and then went on to later lie in their reports and fabricate evidence (with the help of the very guy that was supposedly "investigating" the shooting) to make it look like the shooting was justified.
The police are not your friends. Invoke them at your peril.
he will have to use **copyright law** to make it happen.
Err, if copyright didn't exist, he wouldn't have to do anything at all. Seems to go counter to your entire point, if you take a second and a half to think about it.
You're basically arguing that patents are necessary because they give companies a defensive method by which to avoid being sued for patent infringement. It's completely circular.
That right ends, however, if swing my arms into your nose.
He swung his arm into her nose? Or are you saying she has a right not to receive offensive speech?
But his right to free speech ends as soon as he threatened to harm another human being.
And that is a fact.
You realize that you saying "it's a fact" doesn't actually make it a fact, right? Most (all?) jurisdictions require there the threat to be credible for it to be a crime. And that's a fact.
The democratic process is not a contract. The fact that people still believe this ridiculously silly canard is a testament to the undying propaganda of our school system.
Voting is force. It's always been force. We vote because we hope that the decisions to use force that come out of a democratic process will be better than the decisions to use force by a dictator, but that doesn't change the nature of the action. Actions do not lose their essential nature or become moral simply because a majority of voters command them into law.
Vitamin C has limited effect, and only if you take massive doses prior to the infection. Once the cold comes on there is no benefit.
I've always understood that you're supposed to take Airborne (which has a "massive" dose of Vitamin C in it) before going into a situation where you're likely to be exposed to sick people. That's why they call it Airborne (hint: you're supposed to take it before getting on a plane).
I tend to think it's a waste of money, but then, I don't think I should threaten people to stop them from buying and selling it either. I guess that's where we differ.
Yeah, I often find that companies go out of their way to build up a huge customer base over long periods of time with quality products, and then dump vats of botulism into their product before grabbing everything out of the safe and running for cover. I suppose they'll tell themselves something like:
"Ha-HA! I was offering a product that everyone thought was great and I could have kept doing it year after year and raked in shitloads of money, but instead I grabbed whatever I could physically wheel-barrow out of my factory and went on the run! Sure showed them! Damn glad their wasn't an FDA to stop me!"
(Say, do you know where I can get a monocle and a tophat? Apparently, after my dastardly plan to eliminate the FDA comes to fruition, there will be some poor, uneducated people that I will want to crush under my evil, capitalist boots, just because I can!)
Sorry, you don't get to make decisions for yourself based on your own research. Only Carl and his "expert" bureaucrats in Washington can make those decisions for you. You're just a stupid prole who would die in the streets without your betters to take care of you.
(And if you don't like it, prepare to get the shit kicked out of you by the government. It's not really violence, though, because the law says it's okay! Aren't we all so enlightened these days?)
They find someone who is bigger than you to seize your assets.
Which apparently doesn't count as force, according to you?
consider contract law as use of force
Because contracts are voluntarily entered into,and if you don't hold up your end of the bargain, you've essentially stolen from the other party. Theft is force. I haven't signed any contract with the FDA, but will that prevent them from trying to hurt me if I don't follow their "recommendations"?
If a man wants to sell me a pill, and I want to buy it, the person who threatens to steal our property and throw us in jail are using unjust force to do it. There is no "equity" here. Just a bully with a lot of guns at his command.
The fact that the bully is a government bureaucrat that will no-doubt be later appointed to a big pharma executive position for his role in pushing people towards that company's expensive products over the cheaper alternatives while he was in office is immaterial to the analogy, but icing on the cake nonetheless.
Honestly, I still don't think a third party cert and free market principles can create enough in punitive damages of good will to deter companies from acting like they are
You can still take those companies to court. If you sell me aspirin laced with botulism, you can bet there'd be a lawsuit coming your way. You don't need the FDA for that.
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So, better than average for patents overall, right?
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And don't even get me started on those women showing their ankles in some Islamic countries. You probably salivate just thinking about all the stonings you could mete out for that one! A CRIME IS A CRIME IS A CRIME!
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Or their guns, at the least. ;)
And don't forget about the police officers who murdered two men on a bridge, and then went on to later lie in their reports and fabricate evidence (with the help of the very guy that was supposedly "investigating" the shooting) to make it look like the shooting was justified.
The police are not your friends. Invoke them at your peril.
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Vision of the Future
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Err, if copyright didn't exist, he wouldn't have to do anything at all. Seems to go counter to your entire point, if you take a second and a half to think about it.
You're basically arguing that patents are necessary because they give companies a defensive method by which to avoid being sued for patent infringement. It's completely circular.
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He swung his arm into her nose? Or are you saying she has a right not to receive offensive speech?
But his right to free speech ends as soon as he threatened to harm another human being.
And that is a fact.
You realize that you saying "it's a fact" doesn't actually make it a fact, right? Most (all?) jurisdictions require there the threat to be credible for it to be a crime. And that's a fact.
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Well said. I imagine some New Orleans citizens have their own special view of the police after Katrina.
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Why would that matter?
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I assume it's a reference to Doug. :)
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It's a self-perpetuating cycle.
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Damn
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[Citation Needed]
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Depends on your definition of censorship, really.
You can't walk into my house and shout obscenities at me either. Does that mean I'm censoring you? Why/why not?
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Voting is force. It's always been force. We vote because we hope that the decisions to use force that come out of a democratic process will be better than the decisions to use force by a dictator, but that doesn't change the nature of the action. Actions do not lose their essential nature or become moral simply because a majority of voters command them into law.
A contract you don't agree to is not a contract.
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I've always understood that you're supposed to take Airborne (which has a "massive" dose of Vitamin C in it) before going into a situation where you're likely to be exposed to sick people. That's why they call it Airborne (hint: you're supposed to take it before getting on a plane).
I tend to think it's a waste of money, but then, I don't think I should threaten people to stop them from buying and selling it either. I guess that's where we differ.
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"Ha-HA! I was offering a product that everyone thought was great and I could have kept doing it year after year and raked in shitloads of money, but instead I grabbed whatever I could physically wheel-barrow out of my factory and went on the run! Sure showed them! Damn glad their wasn't an FDA to stop me!"
(Say, do you know where I can get a monocle and a tophat? Apparently, after my dastardly plan to eliminate the FDA comes to fruition, there will be some poor, uneducated people that I will want to crush under my evil, capitalist boots, just because I can!)
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(And if you don't like it, prepare to get the shit kicked out of you by the government. It's not really violence, though, because the law says it's okay! Aren't we all so enlightened these days?)
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Which apparently doesn't count as force, according to you?
consider contract law as use of force
Because contracts are voluntarily entered into,and if you don't hold up your end of the bargain, you've essentially stolen from the other party. Theft is force. I haven't signed any contract with the FDA, but will that prevent them from trying to hurt me if I don't follow their "recommendations"?
If a man wants to sell me a pill, and I want to buy it, the person who threatens to steal our property and throw us in jail are using unjust force to do it. There is no "equity" here. Just a bully with a lot of guns at his command.
The fact that the bully is a government bureaucrat that will no-doubt be later appointed to a big pharma executive position for his role in pushing people towards that company's expensive products over the cheaper alternatives while he was in office is immaterial to the analogy, but icing on the cake nonetheless.
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You can still take those companies to court. If you sell me aspirin laced with botulism, you can bet there'd be a lawsuit coming your way. You don't need the FDA for that.
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