I was wondering if anyone knows how much each site can sue DOJ, HomeSec, and ICE for? Because with 84,000 unique sites at even a small amount like $100,000 USD per site, that is billions.
Indeed... the sad part is - who pays for it in the end?
"From China's 3rd century BC Qin Dynasty to the present day, the burning of books has a long history as a tool wielded by authorities both secular and religious, in efforts to suppress dissenting or heretical views that are perceived as posing a threat to the prevailing order."
"Please, don't confuse due process with a long drawn out court proceedings. These companies are able to get their property back by fighting this in US courts. But, as with any other legal case, preliminary injunctions or seizures of property can apply if certain thresholds are met."
So in other words - they are GUILTY until proven innocent?
Yes, that's exactly what concept that is - no amount of spin can change that simple fact.
"That way Newegg/Amazon/etc. can work out deals with the states or set up in states with low sales taxes. States could compete for the employment and taxes and customers could keep more of their money. It'd be win/win."
*That* is the problem.
Which state will have most of the retailers then and net all the sales tax?
Will Ohio grease palms or will Utah? What if Iowa has a few retailers and then Illinois pays for the to relocate to Illinois using taxpayer dollars to buy the corporation land, buildings, whatever. It opens up a huge can of worms and makes a very ripe ground for abuse and corruption.
No matter which one gets the most - the other 49 will whine about it and likely sue.
Wow, a judge.. that admitted they were wrong. Perhaps that's the real news here, lol.
I'm curious with this whole concept - about how long it's going to be before it's illegal to have clothes altered or against a 'EULA' to alter clothes you have purchased.
Because it makes about as much sense as it being illegal to mod a console..
Still - in the end, regardless of the layers of confusion they pile on... most copyrights don't meet this core requirement: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries."
In the majority of these cases, they hamper progress - not promote it.
Perhaps we are becoming a little too dependent on these technologies. I clearly recall on 9/11/2001 - that cell phone networks were jammed up anyway. I'd never really count on a cell phone in a situation similar to that anyway.
The mere fact that there's this kind of dependence of this stuff is unsettling.
As for 'terror' or 'organized' threats - in those cases, they would likely custom make jammers with far more power than these, maybe even something on the scale of a full 120 volts with a high-wattage power booster.
Most IT people were quite aware of this already, but I know for sure many others are not.
It's like the DSL rant about "you have a solid 1.5 mb with DSL, NOT SHARED!!" - they just fail to add that the speed is between you and the switch in their Data Center - after that point, it's shared.
Well, one could infer from a typical use of the term 'gig' - that it's a live show.
Downloading certainly doesn't impact that market. If not for 'free' exposure to music, you would likely never sell a copy.
For example; what if Elton John, Billy Joel, and Sammy Davis Jr. were never aired for 'free' on the radio. Does anyone want to put up some claims as to how they would have sold the volume of music that they did, if not for 'free' exposure to the public?
What gets me about the whole situation is that - since Radio was invented there has been 'free music' available 24/7 on multiple stations. But for some reason, only now has this became an issue.
If not for 'free' music on radio, I suspect the recording industry would have made *exponentially less* money over the years.
All of the war on drugs - pretty much is due to Pharma.
I can see issues with Cocaine, Heroin, etc.. but not pot.
Pot is the only painkiller I know of that you can't OD on, and it's the only painkiller that's natural and otherwise 'free' to produce. Anyone could grow it...
"Further in the debate, Kelly expanded and even bet Krulwich that he couldn't find any tool, no matter how far back in the past it was from, that wasn't still being made today"
Stone Axes and Bone Knives?
Cups for sadistic rituals made from human skulls?
Oh wait, I bet they still need those at the Bohemian Grove, lol.
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Indeed... the sad part is - who pays for it in the end?
On the post: Homeland Security Won't Even Admit Whether Or Not It Seized Mooo.com, Taking Down 84,000 Innocent Sites
"From China's 3rd century BC Qin Dynasty to the present day, the burning of books has a long history as a tool wielded by authorities both secular and religious, in efforts to suppress dissenting or heretical views that are perceived as posing a threat to the prevailing order."
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So in other words - they are GUILTY until proven innocent?
Yes, that's exactly what concept that is - no amount of spin can change that simple fact.
On the post: Homeland Security Seizes Another 18 Domain Names, With No Adversarial Hearings Or Due Process
On the post: Online Appliance Shop Makes Customers Sign Agreement Threatening Criminal Libel Suits For Negative Reviews
To me... ^^^^^^^^^^^ That is a negative review. Big time.
There is a very easy way to avoid this however; don't buy anything from them. Done deal. No worries.
On the post: While Texas Politicians Claim $600 Million 'Lost' In Uncollected Online Sales Tax... It Means $600 Million Texans Saved
*That* is the problem.
Which state will have most of the retailers then and net all the sales tax?
Will Ohio grease palms or will Utah? What if Iowa has a few retailers and then Illinois pays for the to relocate to Illinois using taxpayer dollars to buy the corporation land, buildings, whatever. It opens up a huge can of worms and makes a very ripe ground for abuse and corruption.
No matter which one gets the most - the other 49 will whine about it and likely sue.
On the post: While Texas Politicians Claim $600 Million 'Lost' In Uncollected Online Sales Tax... It Means $600 Million Texans Saved
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Don't really have any sympathy for them.
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I'm curious with this whole concept - about how long it's going to be before it's illegal to have clothes altered or against a 'EULA' to alter clothes you have purchased.
Because it makes about as much sense as it being illegal to mod a console..
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In the majority of these cases, they hamper progress - not promote it.
On the post: FCC Planning To Crack Down On Cellular & GPS Jamming Devices
The mere fact that there's this kind of dependence of this stuff is unsettling.
As for 'terror' or 'organized' threats - in those cases, they would likely custom make jammers with far more power than these, maybe even something on the scale of a full 120 volts with a high-wattage power booster.
On the post: Time Warner Cable Whining About How It's Not Allowed To Pretend It Offers Fiber To The Home Any More
It's like the DSL rant about "you have a solid 1.5 mb with DSL, NOT SHARED!!" - they just fail to add that the speed is between you and the switch in their Data Center - after that point, it's shared.
On the post: Recording Industry Persecution Complex: Claiming EMI's Plight Is Due To File Sharing
Well, one could infer from a typical use of the term 'gig' - that it's a live show.
Downloading certainly doesn't impact that market. If not for 'free' exposure to music, you would likely never sell a copy.
For example; what if Elton John, Billy Joel, and Sammy Davis Jr. were never aired for 'free' on the radio. Does anyone want to put up some claims as to how they would have sold the volume of music that they did, if not for 'free' exposure to the public?
What gets me about the whole situation is that - since Radio was invented there has been 'free music' available 24/7 on multiple stations. But for some reason, only now has this became an issue.
If not for 'free' music on radio, I suspect the recording industry would have made *exponentially less* money over the years.
On the post: 'War' On Fake Drugs Really An Excuse To Boost Big Pharma; Putting The Poor At Risk
I can see issues with Cocaine, Heroin, etc.. but not pot.
Pot is the only painkiller I know of that you can't OD on, and it's the only painkiller that's natural and otherwise 'free' to produce. Anyone could grow it...
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Doesn't matter.
It's like someone saying that you'll stop murder if you ban guns.
Theft has been around a lot longer than the internet.
On the post: Do Tools Ever Die Off?
Stone Axes and Bone Knives?
Cups for sadistic rituals made from human skulls?
Oh wait, I bet they still need those at the Bohemian Grove, lol.
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