Living in the schizophrenic & often hostile Dead-site Wastelands, Content Jungles, Virus Countries, Twilight Zones and Seas of Shit that make up the wilds of open Cyberspace are the vast Chaos tribes of the Internets.
They make their homes in whatever scraggly Forum-Villages they can scrape together from spare code & coffee beans, some of it's members are Trolls & Griefers, most of which can be found rummaging around in the various Cesspools, Morale-Morasses & Forum-Ghettoes that line the Sea of Shit.
One of the most notable of their kind is a conglomerate jumble of trailers all tied together atop a Shit-Swamp known as 4chan.
Some of the other tribes besides 4chan include Anonymous, though technically more a cult than a tribe it owes it's roots to Chaos, even those of more civilized establishments may wear the infamous cloak & mask of Anonymous should they ever fear for their security.
Then there is the blood-thirsty Lulzsec who are often found rebelling against something or other in their own brutish way.
Not all members of Chaos are tribes, however, some are just establishments set up by people who have some disagreement with or seek a different path than the status quo, the most fortunate and/or wealthy of the these create massive moving fortresses capable of war, the one of the grandest of such forts is known only as the Pirate Bay.
It is a massive server an even more massive port which other smaller servers may link themselves, it is here that many trade away from the restrictions of the IP Gestapo which governs so much of the walled-in White-Net above.
It ruled by a mysterious King-Beyond-the-Wall who often employs the service of LOLcats to spread importance of copying & sharing, as you can probably guess LOLcats can now be found pretty much anywhere on the Internet.
The rest of the non-tribe members of Chaos include servers in which Dungeon Masters create massive worlds for others to explore, laid-back Party Cities full of neon video-signs on every building with music blaring & clearing grounds for the various restrictions of the White-Net.
There is no question that the forces of Chaos are every bit as numerous, if not more, than their more civilized, mainstream or 'legal' cousins, they are limited only by their inability to work together as one single coordinated force, as a result, the Gray & Dark-Nets may forever remain second place to the White-Net and the rules it imposes upon them.
....Lemme make another post for the side of order.
I also heard 100% of terrorists have to p00p, so to compliment our grocery store efforts every toilets will come with TSA agents installed in 'em so that way we'll catch the ones who didn't go to the store that day!
Go into wal-mart. Open a DVD, and rip it to your hard drive
Uhm. Why? I can find that same DVD on the internet from a copy someone's already bought and uploaded.
Because of the availability of the content I don't have to steal or go out of my way to get it anymore, I just access what is already available to me, if only food and things like toothpaste/toilet paper/shampoo was that easy.
The internet isn't special - it just lets you hide your bad deeds in a manner that you feel safe doing them, similar to being in a rioting mob.
No the Internet isn't special in that regard, people hide bad deeds all time, offline & online.
How many cases I've seen where domestic abuse has gone on in a household unchecked for years before the victim or someone who knows them finally got the word out and had something done about it?
None of the crimes took place on the Internet, yet the perpetrator managed to hide their bad deeds one way or another.
You can do things there that you wouldn't do by yourself.
You can do alot of things with people that you wouldn't do by yourself. Offline and online.
Also even if you did actually steal it from Wal-Mart the repercussions are MUCH less than it would be if you where caught infringing. That in itself proves just how stupid the whole copyright deal is.
it's your assumption that because Suja is stating a fact that, ergo, Suja must be a pirate.
Well, I'm definitely a pirate, however they seem to be under this impression that because I pirate content and/or have no problem with pirating/copying content I am "ripping off" artists. This is not true.
The "legal" alternative is the real rip-off here, both for artists and the buyers, if it weren't YouTube and other sources I find my music/art/shows on I wouldn't have seen atleast 75% of them.
Why? 'cause money, if the corporation that (thinks they) own the content doesn't see revenue potential in something it gets locked up and forgotten. I believe I might have a rant somewhere about the Ducktales soundtrack which Disney didn't release and sees no reason to release.
A whole soundtrack... Gone to waste. And I'm ripping off the artists.
I pirated all of Game of Thrones at first and now I own the DVD for the show and that's just one example, yeah, I'm definitely ripping off the artists.
There is no infinite supply of Beatles music. 2 of the members are dead. No chance for new music.
You go from comparing Wal-Mart to the Internet to telling me how there is no infinite supply of Beatles' music because some of them are dead?
Umm, yeah.
Great logic.
Back to the original point that was raised in the beginning, there technically is an infinite supply of Beatles' music because I can *copy* their existing songs, it's not Wal-Mart where there is a limited number of copies.
Sure some of them aren't around but people run out of ideas, so in the end there would've eventually been no more new songs from them either way.
If you feel that way, I can only say that you rip off artists every day. I hope you are proud of yourself for doing it.
I'm not a mirror, I suggest you go find one to talk to.
we all know the result of piracy - people get what they don't pay for
Yup
So's living, you breathe air, you didn't pay for it, did you? You where born, you didn't pay to be born, did you? You're getting what you didn't pay for.
If you do that at Wal-Mart, it's stealing.
Yes.
Wal-Mart isn't the internet, it doesn't have an infinite supply of things, if you take something out it has one less of that thing.
Why should the internet be special?
You can copy stuff, that's why.
As long as you can copy there's an infinite supply, so people can what they want all day long and there won't be any less of it for anyone else.
I think we should start a kickstarter program to but ALL copyrighted works & their industries and everything, release it all to the public domain, abolish copyright & get that whole disgusting mess over with
So they are greedy because they expect to be paid when someone watches/listens to the work for which they paid?
Um, excuse me? These people get paid millions to make this shit upfront. I don't need to continue giving them tit afterwards, no other type of job I know of has this kind of toll booth mentality, and your telling me it's NOT greedy??
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Nobody ever wants to stay awhile and listen lol, now in D3 they even made him not talk like he used to in D2 =(
I miss the days where people actually liked stories, even ones inspired by articles on a site.
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They make their homes in whatever scraggly Forum-Villages they can scrape together from spare code & coffee beans, some of it's members are Trolls & Griefers, most of which can be found rummaging around in the various Cesspools, Morale-Morasses & Forum-Ghettoes that line the Sea of Shit.
One of the most notable of their kind is a conglomerate jumble of trailers all tied together atop a Shit-Swamp known as 4chan.
Some of the other tribes besides 4chan include Anonymous, though technically more a cult than a tribe it owes it's roots to Chaos, even those of more civilized establishments may wear the infamous cloak & mask of Anonymous should they ever fear for their security.
Then there is the blood-thirsty Lulzsec who are often found rebelling against something or other in their own brutish way.
Not all members of Chaos are tribes, however, some are just establishments set up by people who have some disagreement with or seek a different path than the status quo, the most fortunate and/or wealthy of the these create massive moving fortresses capable of war, the one of the grandest of such forts is known only as the Pirate Bay.
It is a massive server an even more massive port which other smaller servers may link themselves, it is here that many trade away from the restrictions of the IP Gestapo which governs so much of the walled-in White-Net above.
It ruled by a mysterious King-Beyond-the-Wall who often employs the service of LOLcats to spread importance of copying & sharing, as you can probably guess LOLcats can now be found pretty much anywhere on the Internet.
The rest of the non-tribe members of Chaos include servers in which Dungeon Masters create massive worlds for others to explore, laid-back Party Cities full of neon video-signs on every building with music blaring & clearing grounds for the various restrictions of the White-Net.
There is no question that the forces of Chaos are every bit as numerous, if not more, than their more civilized, mainstream or 'legal' cousins, they are limited only by their inability to work together as one single coordinated force, as a result, the Gray & Dark-Nets may forever remain second place to the White-Net and the rules it imposes upon them.
....Lemme make another post for the side of order.
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I put a 'great deal of money and effort' into my posts, WHERE IS MAH MONEH!?!!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
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I wrote this post.
Pay me mothafucka.
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Yes, you are. A broken record company, to be exact.
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There go my 'marching hammers' flashbacks again.
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Uhm. Why? I can find that same DVD on the internet from a copy someone's already bought and uploaded.
Because of the availability of the content I don't have to steal or go out of my way to get it anymore, I just access what is already available to me, if only food and things like toothpaste/toilet paper/shampoo was that easy.
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Also even if you did actually steal it from Wal-Mart the repercussions are MUCH less than it would be if you where caught infringing. That in itself proves just how stupid the whole copyright deal is.
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Well, I'm definitely a pirate, however they seem to be under this impression that because I pirate content and/or have no problem with pirating/copying content I am "ripping off" artists. This is not true.
The "legal" alternative is the real rip-off here, both for artists and the buyers, if it weren't YouTube and other sources I find my music/art/shows on I wouldn't have seen atleast 75% of them.
Why? 'cause money, if the corporation that (thinks they) own the content doesn't see revenue potential in something it gets locked up and forgotten. I believe I might have a rant somewhere about the Ducktales soundtrack which Disney didn't release and sees no reason to release.
A whole soundtrack... Gone to waste. And I'm ripping off the artists.
I pirated all of Game of Thrones at first and now I own the DVD for the show and that's just one example, yeah, I'm definitely ripping off the artists.
Damn my freetard tendencies.
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You go from comparing Wal-Mart to the Internet to telling me how there is no infinite supply of Beatles' music because some of them are dead?
Umm, yeah.
Great logic.
Back to the original point that was raised in the beginning, there technically is an infinite supply of Beatles' music because I can *copy* their existing songs, it's not Wal-Mart where there is a limited number of copies.
Sure some of them aren't around but people run out of ideas, so in the end there would've eventually been no more new songs from them either way.
I'm not a mirror, I suggest you go find one to talk to.
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Yup
So's living, you breathe air, you didn't pay for it, did you? You where born, you didn't pay to be born, did you? You're getting what you didn't pay for.
Yes.
Wal-Mart isn't the internet, it doesn't have an infinite supply of things, if you take something out it has one less of that thing.
You can copy stuff, that's why.
As long as you can copy there's an infinite supply, so people can what they want all day long and there won't be any less of it for anyone else.
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Um, excuse me? These people get paid millions to make this shit upfront. I don't need to continue giving them tit afterwards, no other type of job I know of has this kind of toll booth mentality, and your telling me it's NOT greedy??
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