Forget SOPA, You Should Be Worried About This Cybersecurity Bill
from the this-is-not-good dept
While most folks are looking elsewhere, it appears that Congress is trying to see if it can sneak an absolutely awful "cybersecurity" bill through Congress. We've discussed how there's been some fighting on the Senate side concerning which cybersecurity bill to support, but there's a similar battle going on in the House, and it appears that the Rogers-Ruppersberger bill, known as CISPA (for Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act) or HR 3523 is winning out, with a planned attempt to move it through Congress later this month. The bill is awful -- and yet has somehow already gained over 100 sponsors. In an attempt to pretend that this isn't a "SOPA-like" problem, the supporters of this bill are highlighting the fact that Facebook, Microsoft and TechAmerica are supporting this bill.However, this is a terrible bill for a variety of reasons. Even if we accept the mantra that new cybersecurity laws are needed (despite a near total lack of evidence to support this -- and, no, fearmongering about planes falling from the sky doesn't count), this bill has serious problems. As CDT warned when this bill first came out, it's way too broad and overreaching:
However, the bill goes much further, permitting ISPs to funnel private communications and related information back to the government without adequate privacy protections and controls. The bill does not specify which agencies ISPs could disclose customer data to, but the structure and incentives in the bill raise a very real possibility that the National Security Agency or the DOD’s Cybercommand would be the primary recipient.If it's confusing to keep track of these different cybersecurity bills, the ACLU has put together a handy dandy (scary) chart (pdf) comparing them all. And what comes through loud and clear is that the Rogers-Ruppersberger CISPA bill will allow for much greater information sharing of companies sending private communication data to the government -- including the NSA, who has been trying very, very hard to get this data, not for cybersecurity reasons, but to spy on people. CISPA has broad definitions, very few limits on who can get the data, almost no limitations on how the government can use the data (i.e. they can use it to monitor, not just for cybersecurity reasons) and (of course) no real oversight at all for how the data is (ab)used.
CDT has put together a reasonable list of 8 things that should be done if politicians don't want to turn cybersecurity into a new SOPA, but so far, Congress is ignoring nearly all of them. Similarly, EFF is asking people to speak out against CISPA, noting that it basically creates a cybersecurity exemption to all existing laws. If the government wants your data, it just needs to claim that it got it for "cybersecurity purposes" and then it can do pretty much whatever it wants.
This is a really bad bill and it looks like it's going to pass unless people speak up.
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Why does it always go this way...
Why can't security just be...increased? Why can't the people implementing the solutions be held accountable for doing a poor job?
Why can't this money go into educating people to think in a more secure way and implement better procedures?
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Compare them to SOPA and they will go down in flames.
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spying on you gives them all the information they will need with minimal work, and if no one speaks up, it WILL happen.
it already is... PRE NAZI MUUHHRRICA
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1. According to the U.S. Gov...we are all pirates of intellectual properties.
2. Security "increase" brings more ridiculous, useless, one-sided, taxpayer dollar wasting Bills or Laws designed to undermine our freedoms as Americans, to the drawing table.
3. Most of the money educating people should be spent educating our Government agencies on what the internet is and how to use it in daily life (this means you U.S. DOJ).
In other words I totally agree :-)
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Is the return worth the cost in privacy?
That's an argument that goes back 300 years or more, but there hasn't been any indication of WHY this would be something that our tax dollars should be spent on.
Maybe if people understood the benefits of sacrificing a little freedom they might not mind as much.
We sacrifice freedoms all the time for security. For further information go to a library and reade John Locke.
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God, you're a broken record.
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Yes, you are. A broken record company, to be exact.
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Are you even trying?
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1/10, really need to work on your trolling there.
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Let me fix your quote...
God, the record industry is so stupid."
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OMG, the sky is rising! The sky is rising! Scary stuff! OMG OMG OMG.
God, you're a broken record.
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Response to: Anonymous Coward on Apr 2nd, 2012 @ 11:12am
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In the next 20 or so years how many people think there will be a second American Revolution ?
We were meant to be a Nation of Freedom which we are not.And that should piss off quite a lot of people.
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They will take all those war toys paid for by the American public and turn them against us.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System
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I'm currently on a), but would not be averse to b) if things get as bad as it might.
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Thank douchebags like lulzsec and others. Stupid shit like taking down the White House website, the Library of Congress (really??) and other government sites has created all the justification and motivation for more cyber security laws.
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It would be like people standing in front of the intrances to the capital building as justification to allow full police powers to enter and search people's homes without warrants.
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This is not sufficient rational to take away more privacy from you, freedoms from you and from those you care about.
Your shortsightedness is as frightening. I am concerned that you and others like you that drank the government kool-aid of fear and suspicion cannot see the bigger picture. More government intervention in your life, whether it is for protecting *AA profits or supposedly protecting you from terrorists is simply unacceptable.
I am not in favor of the government watching over every thing I or mine does. Why are you??
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You really think that some idiot kids doing some temporary vandalism is the justification needed to take away your privacy and letting the gov't spy on everyone? Are you insane?
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If people are hacking the CIA and FBI, bills giving the CIA and FBI more power get cover from that.
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Because some kid spray painted a wall, we should have laws requiring electronic tethers on all children?
The media sensationalized the "attacks", but thats what they do. They work people up into a frenzy for laughs.
However our elected leaders aren't supposed to be freaking uninformed morons. They have their staff, researchers, reports, etc. at their finger tips... and they just feed into the hype rather than actually say this is overhyped, here are facts.
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Sad, but this sounds wayyyyyyyy too plausible and possibly its already implemented in some school districts.
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Mike didn't advocate it. In fact, he has said NUMEROUS TIMES what a "dumb idea" the Anonymous attacks were. I think that qualifies as quite the opposite it.
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In case there's a reply that asks for citations...
Now, I've been very clear since Anonymous started this effort -- shutting down various websites using what is effectively crowdsourced distributed denial of service attacks -- that I think the strategy is really dumb.
I think that denial of service attacks are a pretty dumb idea.
I've been on record for a while now that I think the strategy of doing DDoS attacks on websites that people don't like is a bad idea, that will lead to backlash.
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Are you serious? Almost everyone I know -- including us -- condemned those actions as counterproductive.
Must you *always* lie?
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Saying LulzSec's actions were a "bad idea", then turning around and saying that the FBI arresting them was probably a mistake that will spawn more such behavior is hardly condemnation. It's you parsing words again. Maybe you should go re-read some of the user comments. They are generally laudatory or dismissive of their actions. I don't recall a single comment saying that this is simply wrong.
The only real concern was that LulzSec's actions would elicit an unfavorable response- kind of like the Rogers-Ruppersberger bill.
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I've got the right avatar so I'll speak up.
LulzSec was entertaining.
LulzSec pointed out the amazing disparity of security out on the web.
Everyone wants to pillory LulzSec, but how much shit did Sony catch for not patching well documented holes into their systems? Oh thats right they decided to skip the Congressional Hearing on the matter. They get to write off the "credit monitoring" and cry about how much it cost, when they could have spent much less previously to I dunno encrypt the freaking data.
LulzSec did something people needed to see, there is no great and powerful Oz there is a scared little man behind a curtain.
Lulzsec gave us amazing headlines of Cybergeddon!!!! Blargh...
No one has questioned the media and their total lack of reality in their reports.
Do I think they are the bestest people on the planet, nope.
But they haven't disappeared anyone into a black ops site somewhere else in the world to torture information out of them.
ZOMG THEY HACKED THE CIA!
Truth - they defaced and took down a front facing website of no real consequence.
ZOMG THEY HACKED CONGRESS!
Truth - they defaced and took down a front facing website to prove a point, a hacked website should NOT be considered an act of war.
ZOMG THEY HACKED SOME SHERIFFS OFFICE!
Truth - using an unsecured outsourced site should be illegal. Storing sensitive information on those servers should be a crime.
So other than your demand, why should anyone else who is part of the "anti-SOPA" crowd bother to make a statement on what some gifted kiddies did? They aren't congresscritters who have to get soundbites out to make sure they are on the right side of the issue.
The FBI arresting LulzSec will be a mistake. It will motivate more people to continue the work. It shows that with all of the corruption and problems in the world the greatest crime is to show contempt for a corporation.
Oh and Mike isn't responsible for user comments, they are made by OTHER people rather than the other voices you hear in your head.
While the actions of LulzSec might have sped up the timetable to pretend this bill wasn't already in the planning stages is delusional. The cranky old men have figured out the kids are using the new fangled interwebs thing to plot against them and speak out, and they need to be stopped.
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Says the guy paid to carry Google's water...
A completely evil mega-corporation.
Must you *always* be so intellectually dishonest?
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See the larger picture of government intervention in Everything you and those you care about does!
This isn't about protecting your precious ip rights. This is about holding the all to willing government at bay from spying on everything you and yours does!
I'm so tired of your weak and repetitive "Google is the Evil" rant. Put up concrete evidence and shut up.
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To put that argument into perspective, lets change the crime into something physical like murder. it's bad, we can agree on that. some people murder others. so what if we were all punished for the last murder... that 17 yr old in Florida for example. how would you feel about that?
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The newest build is starting to lay the groundwork for a self creating mesh network.
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Fox?
CNN?
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CBS?
MSNBC?
Really?
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Who are the cosponsors?
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That's by design - haven't people noticed congress' tactics yet?
Release some nonsensical bill that could never pass - while a furor ensues - they pass the one they had intended to pass all along behind the backs of the people. It's why Dec. 31st is such a popular day for just that.
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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3523
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We've got some similar laws to be announced at the Queen's speech later on this year. I've already come down on my MP like a ton of bricks over it but I can't be the only one or it'll pass.
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17580906
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Do the same folks - get the fires burning on this. Don't let them sneak this one past us.
If a corporation is entitled to this 'information' - then it should be public.
Why do they get more rights than citizens, when the constitution outlines the guarantee of individual rights - not corporate rights.
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Let them, as long as my rights are upheld.
You can never get real 'security' from a government that's not willing to also give you your liberty; at that point you just have a different entity that you'll need to be secured from: Government.
For if Government provides enough 'security' to control everything, then the people will need security FROM government.
I mean - any tyrant can say he'll provide 'security' - few leaders really work to provide 'rights'. Perhaps this sums it up best:
Thomas Jefferson: “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.”
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You really think that some idiot kids doing some temporary vandalism is the justification needed to take away your privacy and letting the gov't spy on everyone? Are you insane?
No, but our 'leaders' are insane...
These are just the things they use to push these laws. Of course, the media hypes it like it's a huge deal.
We, as IT people know that 'lulzsec' - or whatever, is likely pimple faced basement dwelling intorverts that know how to script well, because the only friends they have are Notepad++ and The internet.
But give that to the media and the spin becomes:
"Malicious hacking group 'lulsec' is threatening the country by hacking the DOD's web site... " - yada yada...
When all that was really done is some joke put up on the main page, etc.
So NO, it's not a legit justification technically, but spin it in the media and it will become the 'justification' that congress needs to pass more laws that take away our rights and give them to corporations.
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yet another...
It may sounds like a broken record, but that is because these attempts to roll over our rights with poorly written bills continue to appear.
I don't even think SOPA was off the table when CISPA was introduced.
http://blog.greenpirate.org/cispa-hr-3523-the-new-sopa/
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To keep everyone from panic and taking action CALMLY
Here's something to keep track of, and its only 11% right now, chances of it being denied is 80%, let's keep it that way or even increase opposition higher, speak up instead of complaining
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RETARDS!
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30-60 Days I can guarantee that would make the fuckers change their viewpoint pretty fucking fast.
I've not seen a movie since the raid on mega. It was boring at first to give up all the T.V. time and trips to the theaters.
With the extra 3-4 hours I save every single day I've became way more productive and have managed to shed a few pounds.
So with that said I will say thank you very much to the movie and music industries for giving me my life back.
The only regrets I have is that if I knew this is the way they wanted stuff I would have never bought satellite T.V. or wasted countless gallons of gas for the 40 mile round trip to see movies on the big screen every week.
Even if they did back down and tell the world sorry I will never be a customer for any of them again.
I hope some others decide to do similar shit and find out something about yourself you would've never known otherwise. For me it was losing the weight about 35 lbs.
I'm no longer a fat ass and I managed to do it all on the fuck MPAA,RIAA diet.
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Does anyone remember?
Need a laugh read this
If anything, the government has become less transparent under his watch. Do I think McCain would have been better... of course not.
The question is, when are we going to stand-up to this tyranny by deception? When will we say enough is enough, and demand a government for the people, not a government watching the people?
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Seems as fast as one gets killed there is always another to replace it. So there has to be a certain group, or business that has their heart set on passing this. It doesn't spring up without a reason. Someone has to do the pushing.
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The people behind it are the MPAA, RIAA, and other IP maximalists. Their other projects include ACTA and TPP. They won't stop until IP law is reformed or they succeed in getting us all under surveillance by our own ISPs.
Personally, I prefer IP reform. If there's less for them to gain by pushing such laws they'll stop pushing them.
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Allow Fascist Creeps to seize office any way they can...
People in the us are stunningly stupid if they think that it's anything even remotely resembling a free country that they live in.
That only happens in the movies.
If you really care, stop buying into the relentless lying propaganda that pours out of your so-called media and so-called government and do something to fix the problem.
Remember that monster-maker Herr Karl Rove endorsed Obummer last time around? Do you get it now?
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The american dollar holds no value as anything but a token of servitude. The less money you have the greater slave you will always be.
Want to watch the world burn? Take All your money, all your reasources out of banks. Banks that take your money and reasources that support the corperations that enslave you and the government that imprisons the free thinkers of our society.
The only way anyone is going to get out of this alive is what could only be called a governmental Genocide. Sad to say but Republicans and Democratic officials of every sort is going to have to die. The people need to form a new government. One based on Freedom not slavery and security.
Nobody wants to say bloodshed isn't the only way out of slavery but the government has already resorted to bloodshed upon the people.
Do your part and show that the people can be terrorists because anyone who opposes the Secured slavery of all American people has already been labeled a terrorist. Your going to prison anyways in the long run so you might as well fight the power that's going to put you there.
You are all violent criminals expressiong violent ideas and fighting for freedom. Something you do not have. Rally before the government has the power to cut down free thinking before it can oppose it.
If the people don't stand up now and one of these bills passes. You will simply always be slaves. Step out of line and I am sure the blue collar slaves will have built a prison for you.
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One thing to keep in mind is that specific and well-thought reasons for opposing legislation goes far further than a form letter. So when given the option, make sure to put your personal touch to it.
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what I see this bill doing is granting designated "private" entities such as a Blackwater or its equivalent access to classified information and grants them the ability to SPY on behalf of the US government: its privetising the CIA and FBI
with complete protection from wrong doing!!!
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HACKERS HAVE PROVEN REVOLUTION IS POSSIBLE
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HACKERS HAVE PROVEN REVOLUTION IS POSSIBLE
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