YouTube's Itchy Trigger Finger Pulls Down Perfectly Legitimate Video
from the gee,-wonder-why dept
With all of the attention YouTube/Google has been getting lately over the problems of unauthorized videos on their site, it's perhaps no surprise that the company has a bit of an itchy trigger finger in pulling videos down. But, it appears that sometimes that trigger finger is a bit too itchy. Earlier this week, we had a story about the future of the CD business, where we linked to a video interview that JD Lasica did with Russ Solomon, founder of Tower Records. Lasica apparently uploaded the video himself to YouTube, but discovered that the company pulled it down after an hour or two for no clear reason. The only thought that Lasica has is that there was a 15 second song clip that went along with the credits at the end. Except... Lasica got the song from a site that promotes music with Creative Commons licenses, and says you can use the song, as long as it's credited, which it was. So, it was his own video with legally licensed music, and yet YouTube pulled it. You have to have some sympathy for the position YouTube is in, with all the complaints and threats, but if they keep pulling perfectly legitimate videos, people are going to start going to the competition pretty quickly. That's why, for all the talk about how YouTube needs better copyright controls, the more they do, the more likely that the questionable content will just start showing up on other sites that are a bit friendlier.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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if i had to guess
and you are allowed to use it in ur video as long as u credit it back, but the problem is, that this "splice" 's data base is user uploaded n alow contains copyrighted songs
so if i find.... snoopdog on splice, use his music n give credit.... it is still illegal
because splice cannot give away what they dont have...(rights)
just a guess
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fingerprints?
So where is this magic technology? I expect it will turn out to be nothing but vapourware and its announcement was a saber rattling threat rather than an indication of anything useful to everyone.
Because if YouTube were to have run the video against this supposedly working system it would have given a green light wouldn't it?
After some trials and burn-in time the system could become so good that YouTube or other user submitted content sites would have a policy to pull a video only if it fails the fingerprinting test.
This could be adapted to allow fair-use too, detecting videos that use appropriately small clips and passing them.
Right now the policy seems to guilty until proven innocent, shoot first ask questions later. That is insulting to people contribute to the site. YouTube should not forget that without their users they would have no site at all.
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Much Ado About Nothing
The fact that it made Techdirt when they may have got one video wrong is a testament to their great record. So what is the score now 1,000,000 to 1?
Is the fact that Wikipedia had some information posted incorrect really news? I expect more from a tech site.
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Re: Much Ado About Nothing
TechDirt has quite a tendency to sensationalize the "news".
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It is News.
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Re: It is News.
Also in case you're interested I would expect a little more coverage about an accidental atomic bomb explosion also.
Youtube feels compelled to start monitoring posts for the same reason myspace now does, the public blames them if something bad happens and they are connected in any manner. Plus as owner of the site they can take down any post they want and just because they do, it's not news.
Why do I "continue to read", well I love my children too, but I don"t let them get by with every stupid comment they make.
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You cant go to the supreme court with a vague theory. You go with a test case. Likewise in the supreme court of public opinion.
If this stuff didnt hit the public radar at all, would we be better off?
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But if I put a chapter of JK Rowling's next book up on my site with a CC license, and someone puts it on their site with a CC license...we are **both** guilty of copyright infringement, because I didn't have the right to put the CC license next to her work...and the person who copied it may have not realized they were breaking the law, but they were still doing so.
So if Lasica took the song from a site that claimed CC...but had no right to claim it...it still violated copyright, and it was still appropriately taken down.
That's what Divyansh was suggesting...though it is a guess, and there is no evidence either way.
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legallities
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they gave in
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Nothing New
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