Obama Administration Fails Its Own Transparency Promise Just Days Later
from the is-it-that-difficult? dept
While some of the complaining in the press about President Obama's lack of transparency is overblown, you would think that the new administration could at least live up to the rather simple promises it made days ago on transparency. On inauguration day, the administration promised, among other things:We will publish all non-emergency legislation to the website for five days, and allow the public to review and comment before the President signs it.That's great! If only it actually happened. Jim Harper points out that Obama signed the "Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009" into law just a day after Congress sent it to him. This is a "non-emergency" law. The Whitehouse did put it on the website for review, but not for five days. And, it's especially troubling since there actually is a fair amount of controversy over the law. No matter whether you support it or not, the administration made a great promise that we support: putting it up on the website for five days to allow public review and comment, before the President signs it. And they didn't live up to that.
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"The most uncompromising wartime president in our nations' history."
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Hell, if it worked for BushCo, it should work here, dammit.
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I really don't care how hard the job is. He CHOSE to run for president. Then laid out plans and promises for his administration. Now comes the truth. He is not what he said he was, nor what his supporters believed he was. Now, like Bush, we are stuck with him for at least 4 years. I suppose some may just Love his stimulus (porkulus) bill, don't count me as as one of 'em though.
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Actually, this is the first broken promise. Check out:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/
There are hundreds of promises. How is he going to break half of them in a week?
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this "stimulus"** bill. The Democrats have the votes. They could pass it
today if they wanted to. They don't need even one Republican to sign on.
And if it's really the solution that Obama says it is, then he should be
happy to let the Democrats take all the credit for it. But the reality
is that he knows this bill is nothing but a big-government spending
spree which will do nothing to actually help things and he needs
Republican support because he wants to use them as cover when the whole
thing goes tits-up. He wants to be able to say, "It wasn't just the
Democrats! All of Washington supported this thing. It was bi-partisan!"
The last thing he wants is for Republicans to be able to put up campaign
ads two years from now saying "Look what the Democrats did to you."
**Which really is no such thing. It's just a standard budget bill,
increased by about 30% and loaded with pork, most of which will do
nothing to stimulate the economy.
If they really wanted to stimulate the economy, they could just suspend
the income tax for six months. That puts money in people's pockets
immediately and would do more to stimulate the economy in the short term
than this disgusting money grab... err, "stimulus" bill, ever will.
But of course they won't do that, because suspending the income tax
doesn't redistribute any wealth from the people who shouldn't have it
(according to the government) to the people who should have it
(according to the government). And it also wouldn't be "fair" to the
people who already don't pay any taxes. We certainly can't have everyone
else getting a windfall and leave out the folks who are already living
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The irony is that hes acting just like Bush and Clinton before him. To none of my suprise.
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What th'... ??? HE'S DONE NOTHING! He has done NOTHING yet! He's been in office ONE WEEK! WHat has he done? Name it!!!! Name this great good that he's done!!! You're INSANE!!! INSANE!
I'll give you that he's galvanized the Left to an extreme, fanatical degree, but then we all expected that. Seriously, that is about it. Look, I'm not against the guy, but for crying out loud, such statements really need back-up. Otherwise your painting yourself with the fanaticism label.
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Where is the outrage? If this had been a Republican doing all of this, the NYT, along with most other MSM newspapers, would be featuring the outrage on the front page, non-stop, with Libs screaming like wounded beagles. But no, if you say anything at all negative about the Obamassiah, you get thrown off the plane (Dallas Morning News, anyone?).
The Chicago Politician with the Blank Resume (can't stay blank now, can it BHO?) *has* helped my business tremendously. For at least a short time.
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www.chl-tx.com Makin' hay while the sun shines, because the Libs are about to make it set for a long time.
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All talk, no action
He promises transparency, and we get this, just days later.
Sorry, but he's no political savior. It's business as usual in Washington.
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same two pools
YOU DO NOT GO OUT AND BUY ANOTHER FORD!!!
/Anarchy - It's not the law, it's just a good idea.
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The promise should be kept. We aren't asking for perfection, just integrity (I know it is a lot to ask for, but I think it should come with the job).
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Integrity = Ron Paul
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I'll do you one better, Ron Paul = real change. Anyone else = The Same Old Shit.
I wrote him in this one. I wished he'd have kept up the fight rather than bow out of this last one, and keep fighting until we at least get a third party in. I'd settle for that at this point.
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Via Barack Obama's OWN WEBSITE... On June 22, 2007, in Manchester, New Hampshire, he said:
"When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as President, you will have five days to look online and find out what's in it before I sign it."
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/06/22/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_17.php
This means ALL bills. Only later did he re-make that promise in the form of "non-emergency" bills in order to alter his own promise and lower the standards on himself.
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Equal rights to woman law
Stem cell research
slamming wall street for their BS spending
Nah, I agree that he is as many others in many ways.
He is my President! Many are thinking he is some kind of saint, going to make change in America etc. Well, What have you done for your country lately. People have to change their one sided, greedy, selfish, egotistical way and become one of the PEOPLE that are helping America! Sad really, cause I know there are so many that are so blind they will never see anything they don't want to.
For the people, BY THE PEOPLE.
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What? Huh??? What's this? Are you talking about the United States? Don't make me laugh. The last administration waved their magic pens and gave a bunch of Wall Street losers (or winners, if we will consider for a moment that you are a winner if you swindle millions of people and get away with it) a huge wad of our dough. This went through congress without any kind of referendum or any kind of voice from we, "the People", AT ALL! The only time that is supposed to happen is during a war. The last time we declared war was in WWII. Since then its been Rule by Decree, and even until now. The first promise Obama breaks is one thing, but now watch and see if he (with the help of the thugs warming the seats in congress, the president's henchmen now with the Democratic majority) also creates law by decree. The first time that happens we'll all now the truth. And follow the money...
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Sounds pretty good to me!
And if you think that's stupid because they won't be in office long enough to get anything done (arguably a good thing) look at how much time they waste preparing for election. Hell Obama has been running for 3 or 4 years now.
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"he touts bipartisanship but takes no advice to heart and makes no changes to his proposed legislation"
he did not completely fold if that's what you mean. he did make changes that he did not even need to make to get the stimulus passed because of Republican interests, so I call this point untrue.
"when a reporter asks him about his cabinet appointees being lobbyists (which he promised not to do) he basically chews out the reporter and then changes the subject"
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http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2009/01/23/obama-signs-five-executive-orders-in-first-three -days/
"when a reporter asks him about his cabinet appointees being lobbyists (which he promised not to do) he basically chews out the reporter and then changes the subject"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17831.html
Got these in about 30 seconds of Googling. You should try it sometime.
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Answer 63 MILES high.
To call that bill a 'stimulus' plan, is pure BS. (Hell Yeah I'm emotional about it). More to come over the next four years. All those Bush haters are gonna love defending this guy 24-7. Three lobbyists in his administration (as you pointed out) so early in office. Broken Promises so soon.
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Three lobbyists in his administration? Just fact.
Broken promises? Fact.
I know you're just arguing that he should be given time to prove himself, and that's fine. In fact, I agree. But many the arguments being made are based in indisputable fact. What you make of the facts is subjective, but the facts themselves are objective.
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Time will tell, if we don't kill each other.
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Surely there are better ways to be transparent and get feedback from concerned people than to just sit on something for 5 days.
Not an Obama fan at all, but it sounds like a silly promise to make. Especially when there are websites out there already that detail every piece of legislation and allow for feedback. Maybe the better, more "transparent" thing to do would be for Obama to support services like that - publish things even before they're voted on, and allow feedback for a few days.
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People free of 'some debt. Companies get money!
Win, Win!
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Ill even give that small changes in both cause and effect will happen through out the crisis and will cause minor different outcomes; but the over all picture and outcome will not change, therefore that makes the arguement to change the response to this disaster... not just doing the same and saying "We'll do it better" that has never worked, and it wont work now...
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Unfortunately, though the bill will probably create jobs, I'm not sure I see much *permanent* job growth. Most of the new jobs will be temporary and will disappear again when the projects have completed. That is, unless the government spends more money.
The centerpiece of our economy, like it or not, is its businesses. They'll be the ones that can create permanent jobs and spend their money (not taxpayer money) in positive ways that will grow the economy. I think Obama mentioned alleviating the credit freeze and this will help, but he really has to cut the business tax -- Mitt Romney and Meg Whitman individually suggested 25%, which sounds reasonable to me. Oh! And, Obama, please close those loopholes you were talking about too!
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The idea is that businesses spend money more than consumers do. So I agree with you, provide them with incentives to spend money in a "good" way (job creation, research, innovation, etc.).
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That said, there are many things that he promised that he has delivered on -- some of them I like (seeking peace with middle eastern countries) and others I don't (the stimulus bill).
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Via Barack Obama's OWN WEBSITE... On June 22, 2007, in Manchester, New Hampshire, he said:
"When there is a bill that ends up on my desk as President, you will have five days to look online and find out what's in it before I sign it."
http://www.barackobama.com/2007/06/22/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_17.php
This means ALL bills. Only later did he re-make that promise in the form of "non-emergency" bills in order to alter his own promise and lower the standards on himself.
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Tech? Dirt?
That notwithstanding, do you think that perhaps a new president is more concerned with hurrying up and signing a bunch of things right away to make an impact 'out of the gate' than he is with entertaining 5 days of commentary everytime?
I imagine after he has been in office for a month, that things could be different. Then again, maybe not. Look, I was and will continue to be an Obama supporter, but anyone who thought he was going to honor every single thing he said during his campaign was dreaming. He is still a politician. But, I feel much better about his integrity than I have about any previous elected official.
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"Give the money to the people to pay off debts!
People free of 'some debt. Companies get money!
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I about fell out of my chair.....
Are you kidding me.
Let's break that down for a moment:
"Give the money to the people to pay off debts" - Didn't those same people get themselves into debt in the first place. I don't want to hear crap about predatory lending. If you not intelligent enought to figure out the details, then you should be trying to keep up with the Jones'. Those are my tax dollars being used to pay off someone's lack of self-control. What's happening to our country?
I don't want/need a government handout. If I want something and I don't have the money for it, I do it the old fashioned way, I save what I've earned to purchase it.
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My one disagreement is that "putting money into [anyone's] hands" is a bad thing. It's a fundamental problem with the way this country works. Why work for money if the government is just going to put it into your hands?
I *do* agree that it is better for people to spend money rather than save it. That said, some people are natural spenders and others are natural savers, and it would be unfair to distinguish between the two groups. Fortunately, there's another way -- businesses are natural spenders. They have to spend money in order to make money.
Putting the two together, tax cuts for businesses are a good way to get money flowing again without simply "handing the money out".
Though I'm normally in favor of letting businesses do their own thing, perhaps there is some merit to regulations regarding compensation for high-level positions, in light of the abuses we've seen recently. (Granted the abuses are probably the minority, but if the majority are playing by the rules, any regulation should not harm them.)
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The government needs to take a lesson from my mother that may help them differentiate between "wants" and "needs" in spending. Just because you are given a certain amount of money (my case it's my paycheck) to spend does not really mean you have to spend every single penny. Save some up for an emergency or "down period" that you can fall back on. This would help the government learn how to truly "trim the fat" from their budgets.
Maybe it is true...once you reach a certain amount of intelligence that the brain needs to purge unnecessary info, but unfortunately it is common sense that is the first to go.
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Perhaps consider it from this perspective.
Consider it from this perspective: look how quickly things have come about in just over a week that he has been president. Practically speaking, publishing legislation to a website is easy enough to do. But anyone who has ever worked in a large company (analogous to the corporation of the US) knows that when you get web developers, lawyers, and marketing stooges in the same room together, this kind of change normally takes months.
Publishing all legislation to the public for 5 days is a huge change in workflow for our titanic government steeped in tradition. That we've even started doing this in just over a week is, in my opinion, impressive and not to be overlooked lightly.
I'm disappointed, but will not join the "Yarrr! His words mean nothing! I don't want to be a fanatic so hating him is the only other option because we live in a world of extremes!" bandwagon. =)
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On a related note...Obama will continue to not live up to anything he said. No one should make excuses for this man's word. If he failed to live up to those words, then he will deal with the repercussions. That's it. No one should make excuses like "oh, well name one president that lived up to his campaigns.."...thats utter and complete bullshit considering this man sold himself to presidency on the basis that he WOULD live up this his words and be different. "CHANGE"---have you guys already forgotten about that word?
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Just google "Federal Reserve history" and you can learn a lot about who really runs this country. We need to eliminate the Federal Reserve and get the British influence out of the US again...I smell a revolution coming once people wake up and realize we were sold out A LONG TIME AGO.
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We bitch and moan that our roads suck, our bridges are falling down and there is too much traffic, but we won't elect anyone that would raise the gas tax.
We say we want to get off oil, but try to build a wind farm (like say in view of the Kennedy compound) and groups organize to oppose it. No oil, but don't build a nuc power plant near me. No oil, but we can't use coal.
Meanwhile, for this year, probably over 50% of the people who voted will not have paid any income tax (note I say income tax, not sales tax or SS or Medicare.)
Another point, you can't pay your mortgage? Why not? Did you get a loan you couldn't afford? Did you get a ARM? An ARM when rates were historically low?
Now, we have congress printing up money and giving it away. Where do we all think this is going? It sure doesn't look good.
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“R-E-P-U-B-L-I-C-A-N”
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GHynson For President!!
I'll fix all the problems,..
I promise.
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See http://fdsys.gpo.gov/
Of course, none of us will agree with everything we read there -- but the point is that we CAN read it there. And granted, this doesn't bring full transparency to government -- lobbyists still can operate behind closed doors -- but it sure is a step in the right direction.
Political comment: we've just endured 8 years of the stupidest President we've ever had. Like or dislike his politics, there can be no serious debate over his utter, complete, appalling lack of rudimentary intellectual ability. This has, you may have noticed, left one hell of a mess for the next guy to clean up. So you might consider waiting, oh, I don't know, maybe a few months, before you begin passing judgment on how well the shoveling-out process is going. It might also cross your mind, while you're waiting, to consider the possibility that someone capable of becoming a Constitutional law scholar -- and a good one, by all reports -- is not only obviously and markedly superior to his predecessor, but may also be the same to many of his critics.
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Sheeple vs Corporations
This doesn't make any sense considering the government's 'bailout' mentality....
Investment banks failing.... govt gave them money
Insurance companies failing .... govt gave them money
Auto Industry failing.... govt gave them money
The entire government 'bailout' has been about giving MORE money to the companies who screwed things up in the first place. I for one would rather have all of that bailout money given to the Sheeple, who like the good little sheeple they are, would turn around and pay off their mortgages, credit card, and other debt. If the government really wanted to help 'the people' and stimulate the economy, all the billions of dollars would have gone to the lowest level (the people) rather than to the corporations who screwed the people over in the first place.
So my taxes are going to go up, and my earnings are going to do down thanks to the government bailout, and what am I personally going to get out of it? NOTHING. BUT the company who made millions selling CDO's is going to get free money from the government that I'm going to have to pay for with my taxes. Not to mention the fact that dumping billions of dollars into the economy thru these corporations is going to result in unheard of inflation. Just wait, it hasn't gotten there yet, but in 6-12 months when the $10,000 cash you have in the bank can only buy you $3000 worth of goods due to inflation created by our government, who are the real winners going to be? The ones who received millions in government handouts and sat on them (like the banks and insurance companies).
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This entire thread = EPIC FAIL!!
For everybody else who's responding to this thread
YOU FAIL...
Republicans = Democrats = Libertarians = YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS...
This is about your failure to get involved. Don't like Democrats and think they're socialists - VOTE! Don't like Republicans and think they're all corporate stooges? - VOTE! Don't libertarians and think they're a bunch of wackos? - VOTE DAMMIT!
* Turnout for all elections since 1950 has been falling. You have no right to complain about the system that you couldn't be bothered to even participate in... Turn off the TV, turn off the radio, put down the newspaper, magazine, blog - GET INVOLVED! See for yourself what a steaming pile of crap you have for a government, and then fix it. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.
To the poster who posted the line for the GPO... a better link is -
http://thomas.loc.gov
All of you - use this link, read what the shitbags we've elected are doing, and DEMAND results!
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Greenspan said it best...
I'm also discouraged by all the bailout stuff, where banks and the financial sectors have gamed the system with TARP. What we need is for the US needs to make a very difficult, fast, and hard turn, to bring manufacturing back stateside.
By this, I mean incenting industries with exportable goods that those whom we can enter into commercial agreements with and our debtors (such as China) would buy. Even if they are foreign-owned, like Honda makes cars here, you know.
To all the haters out there, what have you accomplished this week that makes you feel like Obama has failed so much? Have you solve world hunger? Only then can you cast the first stone.
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Lilly Ledbetter
To me, forcing companies to publicize wage scales is a wonderful benefit of this law, in addition to fighting sexual discrimination! Short term there will be some undesirable effects - hey, we can no longer buy slaves, either!
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Re: Lilly Ledbetter
Usually I look forward to your comments. You should send an email to Mike to remove your comment, post-haste!
Your the only person with a comment, for the past day, and now, that as I look up at the clock, I somehow I feel obligated to pick up the phone and give Jim Cramer a Happy Birthday wishes, but I decided to wait, a few minutes.
So now, I can feel comfortable when I say "BOOYAH GENE".
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Anyone work at FTD that can delay a shipment for me?
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I have this problem of associating things together. Usually they are right, but sometimes, they are terribly, early, not wrong, just early.
But I guess we can employ the Microsoft solution of it being an "undocumented feature", huh?
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This was an emergency
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Name me one person who doesn't think a trillion dollars is a lot of money?
Hell, Bill Gates thinks a trillion dollars is a lot of money. I just asked my 8 year old if a trillion dollars is a lot of money, she said "yeah, don't you already know that?"
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Obama's Transparancy Promise
thereabouts, ALL legislation, rules and procedures MUST be
published in the Federal Register with a 30 day comment period before the legislation, etc, has the force and effect
of law.
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wow
The world almost feels clean again since W's been gone. You people don't look beyond your own shores much, but he was probably one of the most despised men on the planet. The collective sigh of relief that went around the world when Obama took over produced enough wind energy to power 50 million homes for a year.
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Hipocrasy Aspect
Anyone aware that he signed an Executive Order on January 27th authorizing that $20.3 million be spent bringing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas here to the US?
Barak has been bought and paid for by the likes of George Soros and he is determined to severely cripple, if not destroy the USA. Thanks a bunch, useful idiots.
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I'll get on my knees and pray we don't get fooled again
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Give the poor guy a chance
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Give the poor guy a chance
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