That Whole Watch An Ad To Get Content Thing? Patented... And The Patent Holder Has Been Suing
from the watch-out dept
So we were just talking about some new company called Free All Music, which has a plan to let people download free mp3s if they agree to watch a video ad first. I have my doubts about how well it would work... but apparently the company may also need to watch out for another issue: a bogus patent. You see, there's some company called Ultramercial, who not only holds a US patent 7,346,545 on the concept of distributing content where the user can get it for free after watching an ad, but Ultramercial recently went legal. Just a few days ago, it sued Hulu, YouTube and WildTangent for infringement over that very patent. Seriously, USPTO? A patent on watching an ad before getting free content? This is why patent examiners get such a bad rap.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Filed Under: ad supported music, free, patents
Companies: hulu, ultramercial, wildtangent, youtube
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Patent Examiner: "That's been done"
PA: "Ah, but I want to do it on the internet !"
PE: "Approved!"
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Seriously, the "Moron in a Hurry" test was supposed to be about debunking patent claims. Not hiring patent examiners.
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Classic.
Govt.: Hey! That idiot looks like he's off to someplace important! Think he needs a job?
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I thought it was a test for trademark infringement?
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Well, yes. But if it wouldn't stand the test of putting up a shutter, it should come nowhere near being accepted as a fount of monies for the next half century.
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Oh, I smell a class action lawsuit... No, never mind, someone just farted.
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It has another, more fundamental problem. It is not a patentable "business method". In the US, those are required to have a tangible result. Your method of depositing chrome on plastic (by first electroplating with nickel) is patentable - the result of the method is a chrome-plated piece of plastic. Your method of adding a column of numbers by starting in the middle and going out to the sides probably isn't.
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the "useful, concrete, and tangible result" test of state street bank hasn't been the law on eligibility for over a year now. it's currently the "particular machine or transformation" test of diehr and subsequently bilski.
as for obviousness, there are plenty of people who still think that taking something that happens all the time off the internet, and adding the internet, all of a sudden is not obvious. with the current developments in code, simply adding the internet to your business model should ALWAYS obvious.
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Sue the USPTO
I know this sounds a little bit like conspiracy, but maybe this whole thing is a racket set up by the gov't. Maybe they are allowing all these ridiculous patents to go through so they can collect all the fees and taxes that go along with filing for a patent, lawsuits, etc.
Just throwin it out there...
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They are overworked, underpaid, and headed for a revolving door into a private patent practice (in which they will represent stupid patent applications before the PTO). There are few PTO "lifers".
The real problem is not the motivation or even the workload of the PTO. It is its existence. Patents are silly. Congress has experimented with them for long enough - it should feel free to abolish them now that they no longer do any real work.
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What a country
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I guess Virgin Mobil will be the next ones in line to be sued for patent infringement.
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virgin has already sued ultramerical...
Virgin Mobile USA (NYSE: VM) has sued Ultramercial over its Sugar Mama service, which allowed users to earn free voice minutes by watching commercials. Two weeks ago, we reported that a lawsuit was likely, but further details were unavailable at the time. The next day, Sprint announced it would buy the prepaid operator.
Based on documents filed in the state of New York, we now know why the Sugar Mama service was shut down July 16.
Virgin Mobile is claiming that Ultramercial, which ran the service on carrier’s behalf, had failed to pay Virgin at least $814,543 in payments for advertisements placed on the Sugar Mama site.
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"Price" can be any limited resource (money, time), so making me watch a commercial (paying with time) in order to gain access to content is really just a different form of payment. It is no different than charging a price in USD to watch the content.
How this passed even a cursory review at the USPTO is unfathomable.
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Obvious... and archaic...
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Vote for Ron Paul, libertarians, and people from the pirate party. Or we can protest the government. Stand in front of the white house with signs all day and make some noise. Do what people did to get the do not call registry passed against the will of corporations. We have to organize a massive protest. Without a massive protest things that benefit the population as a whole don't typically get done.
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From the Virgin Mobil lawsuit observation it's clear that they're probably the underdog here; why shouldn't Hulu pay them for the use of the model that they pioneered? I know that if I discovered something way back in 2000 or whenever Ultramercial filed this, and everybody started to use it, I would like to be rewarded.
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