UK Gov't Tells MPs They Can't See ACTA Details
from the you-only-represent-the-people dept
While there have been more and more calls for transparency on ACTA negotiations, it seems that even government officials are being stymied. Some UK Parliament Members have asked for the details and are being told they cannot see the document because mysterious, nameless "others" require it to be kept secret. Of course, if you're an industry lobbyist, it's not hard to see the document. But, if your job is to represent the people? Get in line. You'll see it once it's been signed, sealed and delivered.
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Completely unacceptable.
I hope the same is not true in Canada. And here I thought the Conservatives were conspiring to screw us on copyright, but this would mean they aren't even SEEING what they're agreeing to.
Completely unacceptable.
This agreement needs to get blown out of existence. Also I wouldn't mind if a few conspirators found themselves as collateral damage.
"Proper application of explosives, etc."
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I mean I hope that at least _somebody_ in the government is actually reading this piece of shit. Clement or one of his goons.
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I really don't say that to be coy or hyperbolic.
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If your elected representatives aren't behind the wheel (and you don't like what's happening), stop supporting the people who are. I know I'll be a happier person not seeing Avatar than seeing it.
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Basically if you make 200 different versions of a document no-one can tell which one of the documents that is the real one. Or even if any of them is real, or maybe all of them is real.
Eventually one must choose between disregarding all of them or to assume all of them is real and react to everything.
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That pretty much says it all. They don't want anyone with the ability to oppose it to see the details until it's to late to do anything about it. That and "we're not showing you because you won't like it".
How is this in any way, shape or form acceptable?
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Its not in any way, shape, or form acceptable. What it is how ever is simply a way of maintaining control. All the information middle men are going to die off because of the internet. That includes Newspapers, broadcast news, and Cable news channels. Imagine you got into power using the current way of doing things. You pay for access to broadcast your message. You are now up against an obama style internet campaign that is grass roots and not bought and paid for by corporations. People are watching the news on TV less and news and information is finding them sent by friends and family. You lose your billion dollar run for president because os one guy with an internet connection ...
That is what ACTA is about, maintaining existing corporations because free communications scares alot of people.
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I think corporations still cannot give *ANY* money directly to a candidate, until the SCOTUS strikes that law down too, anyway). Of course, they can just spend millions buying ads so the candidate can spend their other money on other things.
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Second Treaties can be used to tranced laws established by governments and their people LONG after the party that made them is out of power. Meaning regardless of public sentiment our "international obligations" come first.
Third ACTA is far more reaching than even an expansion of Copyright, it's an expansion of TRIPS. TRIPS is a way of pushing our hopelessly broken patent system on the planet Earth. Many companies have withdrawn from entire markets in which they were just entering, because once TRIPS was signed they found themselves in violation of imagination patents on concepts and methods that were broadly used throughout a given industry. Liability is the anti-innovation. Small Database vendors and Chip makers are particularly susceptible to infringement given the thickets in those two sectors. You wont see many if any new players in those markets for sometime to come.
... Do you see why were all so worked up?? Take something that doesn't help anyone other than the already powerful, and kick it up a notch (Please don't sue me) and you get a global cooling of free markets. This is baaaaaad for small business and startups. Big players have pounded down companies in the US with patents, not because they win in court, but because they win in bankrupting the little guy with litigation fees. Which are now in the tens of millions of dollars to defend yourself against "one click checkout" inventions.
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Who are these people?
Anyone in govt who feels the need to negotiate treaties that are kept secret from the people who will suffer the consequences should be sacked.
I think we should know who these individuals are.
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Jar Jar Binks
Der be some bombad clankens comin' dis way!
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The UK Digital Bill
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The UK has no say in ACTA
If the EC is involved then no EU country has any real negotiating power; the EC is all.
David Lammy knows this but doesn't want Parliament to realise it, especially with an election coming up.
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This is a problem.
Can we not just find the negotiator and leak their location to Al Qa'ida? It would save us a lot of effort fighting ACTA in the courts and parliaments. :p
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capitalism and couterfeiting go hand in hand
someone goes i can make a reasonable pair cheaper BUT where they go wrong is they place a levi symbol same as the originator
if this is all thats wrong , i have a solution thats far better for society.
A) expose very public this counterfeiter
B) show the quality of both items if same ALLOW the counterfeiter to continue as long as they remove symbols
as to music and movies and such htink about this
as i said before a counterfeit cdr you wont be able to tel leasily it is really a fake
while lil johnny makes a music cdr and a custom label its pretty easy to tell
the latter become illegal under acta EVEN with our cdr levy
and when the CRIA is commerically infringing on 300000 artists it really starts to piss people off.
ALSO the types a people create the truer fakes are nto lil johnny's and they dont give two shits about all the laws you make, THEY WILL KEEP DOING IT CAUSE 30$ MUSIC CDRS as i saw at futureshop in 2005 WILL CREATE A MARKET FOR THEM
go back and read about the levis example.
all this does in fact is put the entire piracy thing into counterfeit hands and real criminals and of the conservatives really do care for kids they'd not be handing there cultural habits to the real gangsters.
no one can debunk this i've seen it and lived it.
if your a reporter go find out about the plastics recycling plant in Pickering ontario that was to be melting down 75000 pirated cdrs/dvdrs a month and didn't , just turned round and resold them in stores EVERYWHERE
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