Blockbuster Blames 'Piracy' Rather Than Bad Strategy For Bankruptcy In Portugal
from the gotta-blame-someone dept
paperbag was the first of a whole bunch of you to send in the news of Blockbuster declaring bankruptcy in Portugal and claiming that it's all the fault of those darn kids and their downloading. Well, more specifically, it blames the government for not doing enough to stop the sun from rising every morning... I mean, from stopping people from engaging in unauthorized file trading online. This is just an excuse for a company that failed to execute. The number of folks accessing unauthorized movies online is still a blip, and almost certainly had little impact on Blockbuster's bottom line. The simple fact is that Blockbuster, worldwide, has done a really poor job of adapting to a changing world.Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Filed Under: movies, portugal, rentals
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If you want a lot of movies to rent, Lovefilm, et al. offer a decent service, although the streaming options aren't up there with Netflix for range and convenience yet.
There's a lot of problems for Blockbuster that have nothing to do with "omg piracy". Hell, their entire business was built on running smaller players out of the market by buying ridiculous levels of stock and offering them at a premium for convenience. All it would ever take to run them out of business would be for someone else to offer that convenience for less, and that's been happening for years now.
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Blockbuster busted
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Well shoot, that sounds like opportunity's knocking for some intrepid Portugese!
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Little Pink Box is available as a name ... please place your disc in the slot below .... Big Ole Grin
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Lame excuse, yes, but I think there's more to it
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So wait, are you saying that there is almost no downloading of movies online?
Excuse me while I try to stop laughing.
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In a way, I respect that you present an opposing viewpoint to the TechDirt comments, but I have to agree with IronMask on this one. How you can go from "blip" to "almost no downloading of movies" is beyond me. It's either a fundamental misunderstanding of the term "blip" or an intentional misreading.
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In other posts, he would point out that file sharing is rampant, and that the entertainment industry better get on the bus.
You see how it works? That's why I question most of what Mike posts, because he tells the truth, just tells it slant.
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Again, I don't see any inconsistancy or evidence of bias here.
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There is lots of downloading online. That's not in contest.
The ratio of 'downloaders' to 'everyone else' is still huge, thousands to one.
Learn to read, TAM.
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Do you think that a music downloader hasn't also downloaded a movie?
*shakes head* How can you ignore what Mike posts up himself?
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12.7 million / 6.6 BILLION = one tiny little blip.
We already know that you can't do math, so there's no need to continue proving it.
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But then again, it's not illegal to download. That's what you do on the internet, you download things. Sure, some things are illegal to download but it's a blip compared to legitimate content.
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So wait, are you saying that there is almost no downloading of movies online?
Excuse me while I try to stop laughing."
Then stop laughing. He didnt say "almost none" he said "a blip" as in, a small amount, a tiny fraction, barely a dent IN THE WHOLE OF THE INTERNET. The amount of people engaging in this is a SMALL FRACTION of all internet users.
This has been pointed out to you REPEATEDLY yet you continue to blather on as if its some kind of MASS CONSPIRACY and EVERYONE (yes, EVERYONE, YOUR WORDS) is engaged in it.
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Go figure!
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Call the Whaaaambulance
Film at eleven
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look over here something shiny, something shiny, dont pay attention to the article I am here to distract you. I noticed things he tends to really try to distract people on are ACTA and P2P. The P2P stuff he comes across as annoyed, the ACTA, and New tech (IPv6, etc) to stop P2P he is giddy.
The problem is he doesnt understand the technology at all. He hasnt seen what people are developing software wise for Music production, Video production, Liscencing, management, promotion, distribution, payments, and P2P.
The demo I saw of some next gen P2P stuff is scary. Cached Onion routing, Encryption, a huge redundant DFS, and a search function using both the cached onion router and the DFS. While I know this demo isnt going to be what is used for future P2P. Something like it will evolve to counter any laws put in place to stop P2P infringement. It will make any sort of ISP monitoring pointless and totally invalidates, 3 stikes, secondary liability of ISPs, etc.
If TAM is a "him" or a "them" doesnt matter. What matters is that we should be discussing the articles and not paying attention to him.
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Do you have the balls to do it?
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Yeah... you're a shill.
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enjoy.
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Why don't you just go back to prizon where you belong.
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Well done. Truly a champion of big media interests.
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But apparently these industries would rather to stick to their rickety old worn out steam engine business model, tie down the safety valve, then wonder what happened when the boiler blows up. They get what they deserve.
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Actually I think would be easier to stop the sun from rising every morning than stopping unauthorized trading. It would just be a simple matter of stopping the chain reactions that keep the sun lit, stopping the Earth from rotating, or stopping the Earth from revolving around the sun.
I personally use Blockbuster Online but this is just sad to see them kick and scream over losing in that country.
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So Blockbuster ends up being something that only a couple of people around the block go to, and there's just not enough clients to keep their business model up. Period. Logically, bankrupcy ensues.
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So, I just wanted to say thank you for the info.
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Also thank you for the information on Portugal it was a path I wouldnt have thought to follow. Live and learn :)
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Infringement: The modern IP excuse
Speaking as Joe Movie Consumer, when it comes to movies, Piracy is a blip. What matters far more is the fact that shackling yourself to a specific pile of bricks to get a DVD, is no way to offer movies for rent anymore.
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Their service is terrible
That was annoying as hell. Needless to say, they lost a customer.
TAM - try downloading a movie and watching it on your TV - then you would know that the idea of DL movies hurting blockbuster is ridiculous. And also - why is DL hurting blockbuster but not netflix? I know, I know it's hard to make sense when you're not even trying...
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Damn you beat me to it. Peoples habits are changing quickly as new business models crop up. The old school cant adapt fast enough. Now they are seeing new competition kill their old business models.
In the case of Blockbuster in Portugal it was more local conditions (see the comment above by Miguel Moura) than P2P usage. Dont know yet about any competition.
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Netflix, streaming, cheap movies
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As for competition, Blockbuster isn't (wasn't) the only rent-a-disc business around here, there are a lot of old VHS rentals that converted to DVD's and now Blurays, so there's quite a lot of family businesses revolving around renting discs, mostly in small towns with no movie theaters or not-so-good cable services (there weren't any Blockbusters there to start with anyway). In larger cities, you can get great HDtv+phone+100mbps net cable packages with on demand movies, our own equivalent to your TIVO, pay-per-view, and many other options.
Add that to cheaper movie theaters and the fact that Blockbuster wasn't actually that famous, and it's a recipe for disaster.
The funny part is that they're making a big deal out of this bankrupcy, and the truth is that they never were more than a passing fab a couple of years ago (I'll bet 90% of portuguese people never even heard of Blockbuster)..
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Summarizing what we learned so far ...
What we have learned from the posters here is ...
1) Block Buster has censored versions of most movies. That is a really big selling point in any market. (Sarc)
2) Going to the Movies cost 3 euros when you go with a friend. Personally I would rather see the movie in the theater.
3) They are inconvienient to get to unless you live around the block from them.
4) Portugals Cable systems have streaming video, on demand Video, DVR's, and 100 mbit connection speeds.
5) They had 27 store in the entire country. That leads to real brand and name recognition. (Sarc)
6) They have competition from other Video rental stores.
7) Most people in Portugal have 1080p TV sets and P2P infringing videos are most often at 720p. I know everyone goes out of their way to watch Cam'ed videos on their 1080p LCD tvs. (sarc)
Conclusion :
It seems like alot of small things contributed to the failure of BlockBuster in Portugal. P2P probably played some role but not as much as the execs at Block Buster believe. The contributing factors were, inconvienince, competition from Cable, competition from theaters, competition from other rental places, lack of brand recognition, and censored movies.
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Blockbuster stinks
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