If You're Subversive, And Live In South Carolina, Please Register With The State Gov't
from the before-hiking-the-appalachian-trail dept
Slashdot points us to the news that South Carolina has a new law requiring every member "subversive groups" to register with the government or face up to $25,000 in fines and a ten year prison sentence. Seriously:"every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."Oh, and it will cost you $5 to let the state government know you're a terrorist wannabe.
Now, of course, it's already illegal to plot against the US government, so this law doesn't add anything, other than something else to throw at anyone arrested for being "subversive." Prosecutors can also point out that they "failed to register."
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Well, maybe there IS an upside, after all.
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Wanna overthrow the government? We have a form for that!
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Put it on the iPhone or iPad and you can say we have an app for that.
Put it on an app on the verizon network and include GPS tracking and you can say we have a map for that.
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Why did you leave it out?
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Re: Why did you leave it out?
Name one "unlawful" method that can be used to gain control of the government and yet WON'T already get you sent to jail.
This law adds no new protections, just new/extra punishments to already existing laws.
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For example, it is disturbing the peace to shout for an extended time in a public place.
This law could be twisted to say that a group advocating a political change is attempting to "control" the government, and that in planning a demonstration they intend to use unlawfully disturb the peace. Now they can be charged just for planning the demonstration.
And now we have written a law that creates thought-crime.
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Just saying...
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No, he didn't. He had the live audience members and the camera on a rotating platform and simply turned it so that when the lights were turned back on, they were looking at empty space.
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every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State
Don't both major political parties want to "control" the government of the United States?
In my opinion, this new law is going to be trouble.
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Re: Re: No One Suspects....
Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, and an almost fanatical devotion to removing every civil right available to the average American!
General Fang... Get the Comfy Chair!
CBMHB
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yes retards everywhere stand up and claim there terrorists
think how it could work in Canada
make a law that all pirates that exist have to pay 50$ a month
everyone laughs and then next law comes and suddenly no more laughter as govt can label you such at there discretion via the ACTA treaty.
THEN YOU PAY
PROFIT
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pirates are subversives so we have to make them pay
as your downloading your music are you really saying UP YOURS TO JOE BIDEN the mister hollywood vice president and thus are subversive
yes mike watch were this one leads
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So all members of the Roman Catholic Church will have to register.
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HEY wait a minute
/me goes to his dads king George bible ...yea this isn't in there...
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gets out his dnd basic edition and rolls some dice
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How specific are we talking about here?
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truthfully
Anyone get this feeling ?
ITS that or maybe the worlds leaders are taken over by aliens. HOW else do you explain grown men , of intellect with lawyers around them making such laws that we common folk to know are utterly devoid of intelligence, unless its part as i said of a plan to extend the tax base and thus continue the american country a few more years till its known they are truly bankrupt. WHY else while your handing out trillions to scammers bring in health care at same time. WHERE is all this cash going to come form YES I KNOW we can buy up all the art and creativity and make YOU OTHERS IN WORLD PAY
haha yes yes
/me pictures the star wars emperor laughing hard now.
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Sing Along
raise your hand
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Re: Sing Along
I'm only at cranky stage now (working on my ornery badge). Hoping to soon be mischevious! *fingers crossed!*
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Ex military
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Now problem is if your a Subversive group and register are you still a subversive group that no longer needs to register?
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The best approach
See if they can take the forms in with a straight face....
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From the United Hackers Association to Anti Mike with Love or was it shit on his face
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This is not a new law.
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@Richard:
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or an organization subject to foreign control,
So all members of the Roman Catholic Church will have to register
NO BUT JACKA$$ RELIGIOUS BIGOTS LIKE YOURSELF WILL BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST.
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wha about that one in ontario where i live
YUP its an actual law. just no longer enforced.
maybe instead a all the insane copyright stuff we could get lawyers work removing dumb laws..wait maybe thats why these laws are coming out so later they can work at removing them ....like a perpetual paradox machine form doctor who
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Global Government
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think of the children dont send them to church
bigotry has nohting ot do with sick ways that religion has conducted itself and hindered innovation and creativy to mankind
Galileo sound familiar, why do you think free masonry came into being as a powerful force in the world? because we need secret organizations that are chalked full a scientists ?
yes its a lot more ...open dare i say then in the past largely because they won there lil secret war against the church. ALL THE FUNDING FATHERS OF THE USA ARE OR WERE MASONS.
THINK about that when you speak highly of catholicism. organized religion has done far worse for this planet OF ANY KIND. belief in higher powers or a god(s) is your choice dont shove it at me with your PREECHY CRAP
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Re: think of the children dont send them to church
I figure if you spent as much time on those two things as you do on capitalization, you'd be set.
Thanks,
Buh-bye.
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Re: think of the children dont send them to church
Yet you still probably vote Demo. I can come up with many items against Repubs, and ANY COUNTRY or Goverment that has ever existed. The only thign you are proving is that YOU are teh close minded Bigot and that mankind has been horrible to each other in spite of what a few people haev tried to do to make the world a better place.
So I woudl suggest you pull your head out of your professors Ar$#, quit hatin' and make the world a better place.
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umm
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So funny
"What? Your worried we might revolt? You were not thinking about us revolting when you were flying planes into our buildings where you?" Then your going to get what you got.. US, MAD AS HELL.. And as the Marine was saying on Youtube, "From my cold dead hands"..
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"Every person who... practices... controlling... the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."
Does this apply to Lobbyists and/or politicians?
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Too Bad
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State
Don't both major political parties want to "control" the government of the United States?
In my opinion, this new law is going to be trouble.
Well - the 'Government of the US' is by the people, for the people and of the people of the US. Not a state legislature, period. It never, ever says that at all. The 'state' has no control over the Federal Government or should have any say so in it's affairs - as an 'entity'.
Therefore: a State government trying to 'dictate' matters in regards to the federal government is in fact trying to 'control' the government aka 'the people' of the United States. They are guilty of it themselves by simply making this law.
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Escaping persecution? So that's why they call them "Mayflower" vans.
It's what we do every four years.
So, now they have to register or be in violation of the law. Or move out of South Carolina.
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Four names that should be first on the list.
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OMG
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@TW Burger:YES. All the men, women, and teenagers of any political party other than the Democratic party is obviously not an American right? I mean, after all, Democracy is all about ONE political party rule right?
There is no room for dessent right??
Sorry you partisan hack. You want Communist China, it's a few thousand miles thata' way....
Did you think before you typed that, or did you just swallow the kool-aid real quick? Oh wait you were "joking" right? BTW did you know the SOUTH is a bastian of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Particularlly South Carolina? Or that Sarah Palin (not a huge fan of the ex-Govenor myself) is from ALASKA, which is in the north?
Hey why let silly facts get in the way though. You could only be more wrong if you changed your handle to "The Anti-Mike". Have a super day.
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religion
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Really?
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"every member of a subversive organization, or an organization subject to foreign control, every foreign agent and every person who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States ... shall register with the Secretary of State."
Does the "who advocates, teaches, advises or practices the duty, necessity or propriety of controlling, conducting, seizing or overthrowing the government of the United States..." ONLY apply to "every foreign agent and every person"?
If so, is merely being a member of an "organization subject to foreign control" mean you must register automatically? So if I am a member of the Bar Association of Barcelona I must register?
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The answer
It is a direct response to the latest SCOTUS ruling concerning a corporation's right to "free speech" through campaign contributions. This legislation is trying to limit and identify foreign-based, corporate-sponsored nominees.
Or so it seems.
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Like that Jesus guy who blessed his persecutors, and wished good upon those who spew venom (like you) right ? You're so right Wolfy..(sarcasm)
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Laws criminals don't follow
It would be like saying, everyone who wants to carjack someone needs to register with the DMV. Like I'm gonna wait in line for four hours to tell the athorities I'm gonna do something illegal.
Isn't representative democracy fun?
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.....screw this
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