Home Cooking Is Killing The Restaurant Industry!
from the something-must-be-done dept
For many years, whenever people insisted that the ability to download movies would kill the movie business -- including the box office revenues -- we've made the analogy that just because people can prepare food at home (for much lower cost!) it hasn't changed the fact that sometimes people still go out to dinner. It's an apt analogy. People go out to dinner for a variety of reasons, despite cheaper (and potentially healthier) fare at home. Basically the overall experience makes it worthwhile as a social experience. That applies equally to movies and eating out. I was reminded of this recently. A whole bunch of you sent over Gizmodo's post about the old Dead Kennedys cassette tape mocking "Home Taping is Killing Music" by leaving the second side blank so "you can help":Thank you for reading this Techdirt post. With so many things competing for everyone’s attention these days, we really appreciate you giving us your time. We work hard every day to put quality content out there for our community.
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Yeah!
Hell yeah! And let's not forget those that are REALLY responsible. Yes, I'm talking about that most evil person who hides behind that age old lie, "But I'm not DOING the home cooking, I'm just SHOWING them how!"
Yes, folks, I'm talking about Martha Stewart and Rachel Ray....oh, and that goofy guy that just randomly yells BAM! at people. Can you imagine how much less delicious home cooking would threaten our very way of life if these women, these evil, vile cookerists weren't plagueing us with their garbage?
Which is why we are introducing a new bill, US Bill: Return Eating To American Restaurants, Dammit, otherwise known as RETARD. Included in the language of RETARD supporters everywhere is 3rd party culpability placed on this crocheting Martha Stewart, this Rachel Ray with here nonsense about Dunkin Donuts coffee being good, and....christ, what was the BAM! guys name again? It doesn't matter, RETARD will take him down too!
And here's the key: we can grow the restaurant business everywhere! All we the US Trade Org. has to do is make this an international treaty / executive order! That way we can make sure that our trade partners are every bit as RETARDed as we are!
You mark my words. RETARDs will have their day. In the meantime, I've got a lovely cut of bacon on the stove....
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It is not yet clear whether it's okay to use stainless steel during the process so long as we serve our meal from a non-stick. That's for the courts to decide.
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I couldn't help but think that it took you hours to come up with R.E.T.A.R.D., but the way you put this post together makes me think you've just been waiting for the right opportunity to share it :-)
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Sometimes the gems just hit me....
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It seems to me that "legal" and "left alone by the **AA" are two separate concepts.
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Fast forward 20 years.
Now we have a means where a single person, with a single copy of a work, can pass exact copies to every other person in the world. That's what has them scared. RIAA has not figured out how to give an incentive to buy. And since there is no real reason to buy any more, many people don't.
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There is still a good reason to buy. It is the same reason that has been there all along.
Reason to buy ...
If you don't then your musical taste will not be catered for in future.
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If you don't then your musical taste will not be catered for in future.
Uh, logic fail. Whether I buy music or not doesn't affect who makes music that I like - since I can't afford to spend thousands of dollars a year on music, and that, at a minimum, is what it would take for me to have such an effect. Either there are bands out there making music I like, or there are not (there are).
There are reasons to buy things, and IMO even reasons to buy things that could be had for free, but the idea that there won't be any music I like if I don't is not one of them.
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Reason to buy ...
If you don't then your musical taste will not be catered for in future.
You're not implying that musicians only make music to make money are you? That if a musician doesn't make any money off of the music he creates then he will just stop making music (or at least that style of music)? I'd wager that the vast majority of musicians make music solely for the love of it. I want as many people as possible to listen to, and hopefully enjoy, what I create because I love what I do. I don't sit in my practice space with my bandmates pouring over the latest demographic information for our target audience so that we can carefully craft the next hit. I make the music I do because it's what comes naturally.
I know this is somewhat off topic but I felt the need to address that particular comment. There is a virtually limitless wealth of music out there. Certain genres or styles may become more difficult to find because the music industry doesn't deem it popular anymore so they don't push it into your face 24/7 but it's there.
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Huh? Just exactly what part of their whole HOME TAPING IS KILLING THE MUSIC INDUSTRY campaign would make you think that?
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Actually, I seem to remember the record industry being quite upset about dubbing decks.
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Heh.
There. Thought that would drive the point home a little better.
;)
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I love the dead kennedys.
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permission to quote that darkhelmet
ROFL
mod up of the year
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another thing...
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Like Martial Arts!!?
Shazaam!
That's just awesome!
Wait, what? It's a lie?
I'm sad now... ;'(
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When will that evil institution wake up and give the customers what they really want!! It's because the industry won't wake up and CtF/RtB that it's doing so poorly.
THIS is why so many customers are turning to the brothels for what they need! No amount of restrictive DRM like "vows" will keep customers tied to an industry that that just won't deliver what the customers want!
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Probably nothing.
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welp
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2998734
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Simple Answer
Becuase there is no unified lobby bribing them to care.
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"Why won't Congress and the USTR deal with this pernicious problem?"
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AND what about takeout and delivery?
we must keep them yacht building programs in order now.
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we must keep them yacht building programs in order now."
Perhaps THAT'S why we hear so much opposition against pier to pier sharing?
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Two birds, one stone
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The various industries you mentioned are at this very moment buying another congressman and preparing press releases that will be published without question in prestigious newspapers around the country.
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It's the children
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@Designerfx
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Stupid
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@Alex Hagen
a RETARD would not see the value in it and the truth in it.
ONLY a retard got it. YOU figure out what i'm saying?
HE is showing the absudity of what and how the copyright industries are in fact there own worst enemies by making such RETARDed wishes and CLAIMS --->( Clueless Lawsuits And Idiot Mainstream Suits )
let teh anagrams BEGIN
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Bigwig Entitlements Grow In Numbers?
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The epitome of corporate
Arrogance, Ignorance, Greed
AIG
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Home sex
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some said
who would you nominate.
RIAA
MIAA
Peter Mandelson
The Auatralian Government
would be on my list.
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GO add on to it now
haha
make sure you of course are carrying a baseball bat and a baseball ( the ball to indicate you really are going to play baseball not wack a M.O.L.E )
MOLE= ( Musician on levy Entitlements )
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Irony.
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Er...
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Well they can't stop home cooking......
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But to follow the theme
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Libraries?
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Infinite material
We already know that libraries are the biggest copyright infringers and are killing the publishing business.
Camcorders are killing the movie industry.
Toothpaste is killing the dental industry.
Apples are killing the doctor industry.
Homes are killing the hotel industry.
Going to work is killing the welfare and government dependency industry.
The humor in this column is killing the comic industry (or not).
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Eating Rights Industry
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Mel said it best . . .
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W must stop ths marital sex problem by...
That way, when marriage is outlawed, then only outlaws will have inlaws!!!
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Stop home farming!
I picture the NSA scanning millions of HiRes satellite images looking for small growing fields of fruits and vegetables and sending in SWAT teams with RoundUp, oops, I mean shovels to dig up the small plots of land, then taking away your house because the land it’s on was used to illegally grow food. Fertile imagination?
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Next you'll be dreaming up scenarios where they're doing that to people who grow their own "herbs" too. Get real. That could never happen in the land of freedom.
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The New Analogy
"...the analogy that just because people can [drink] at home (for much lower cost!) it hasn't changed the fact that sometimes people still go out to [get plastered]..."
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First off, it's Thursday around noon, and Hitler's posterboy is drinking Irish Whiskey instead of Hefeweizen.
*facepalm*
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First off, it's Thursday around noon, and Hitler's posterboy is drinking Irish Whiskey instead of Hefeweizen.
*facepalm*"
Facepalm indeed. Couple of questions:
1. Is it Thursday around noon everywhere?
2. Did I say I was drinking my Irish whiskey now?
3. Honestly, Hitler's posterboy? What in the sweet hell did I ever say that gave you THAT impression? I'm about as antiprejudicial as it gets, friend....
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I fear what watch lists you're on!
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A. No, not starting a militia, because the rights I was speaking about aren't being attacked....
B. Starting a militia = posterboy for Hitler? No wonder the British had such a hard time fighting the colonies....
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the packaging will be covered in FBI warnings, and be mixed with at least 5% dogshit at the cash register to ensure that no-one touches it.
Of course shoplifters won't have that problem, but its hardly the fault of the store if their mixing dogshit with donuts causes all of their customers to suddenly start wanting "stolen" dogshit-free donuts is it?
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A better analogy than I thought.
-There is a community of content creators (cooks and chefs).
- They create works for the actual consumption of the public.
- At home, one is capable of creating their own tasty content.
- Worst of all there is a network of information available to most that can allow people at home to not only create their own content, but often the same content! (cookbooks and recipe sharing websites)
- In a 2005 study 60% of restaurants fail within three years.
Coincidence? I think not!
Let the discussion on CwF + RtB for restauranteurs commence!
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But let's say Cwf-(RtB) "Trollin' Time!" works, wouldn't it then qualify as a theorem?
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corn farmers!
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but if you don't want to watch a movie in the theater, do you make one at home? no, you merely take a copy of what someone else has made.
i don't see how the analogy holds.
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No, but you don't "make" a movie at the theater either: you watch it. And that 's what you do at home: you watch it.
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you go to a theater to watch something someone else made.
you go to a restaurant to eat something someone else made.
if you don't want to go to a restaurant, you can stay home and cook (where "you" make what you want to consume).
but if you don't want to go to a theater, do you create your content? you still buy someone else's creation, which is why this analogy is flawed.
if theater = restaurants, then watching at home = eating takeaway food at home, not cooking at home.
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When you eat takeaway at home, that's equivalent to RENTING a movie.
Delivery = streaming??
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Home Cooking killing restaurants
If the restaurant business would adapt, the "problem" would tend to go away.
My wife and I like to eat out, but because it is almost impossible to find out what you are being fed (and when you are told, you can't always trust it, because it is oral, and the restaurant cannot be held to what they say), we now eat at home.
On those rare occasions where we find a restaurant that will commit IN WRITING to what they are feeding us, we will consider eating there, but they normally use massive amounts of salt or MSG or other "unfriendly" additives.
I think as people realize how much they are being "poisoned", the trend may be to do the same thing we do.
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fun but stupid
The movie industry is saying don't take food from restaurants without paying for it.
Should chefs work for free? (you aren't saying that chefs are only in it for the money are you??) Or do you just have the superceding "right" to have someone make your dinner for you? If you don't like the terms to watch movies, then go out and make one of your own.
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The movie industry is saying don't take food from restaurants without paying for it.
Should chefs work for free? (you aren't saying that chefs are only in it for the money are you??) Or do you just have the superceding "right" to have someone make your dinner for you? If you don't like the terms to watch movies, then go out and make one of your own.
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