Canadian Heritage Minister Denies Calling His Critics On Copyright Bill 'Extreme Radicals'; Video Proves He Said It

from the deny-deny-deny dept

Wed, Jun 23rd 2010 5:31pm — Mike Masnick

The recent story about Canadian Heritage Minister James Moore lashing out at his critics over the Canadian version of the DMCA (C-32) and calling them "radical extremists" has been getting an awful lot of attention, including condemnation from other elected officials. However, Moore's response has been anything but comforting. He apparently denied saying those words in a correspondence with Michael Geist, but it didn't take long for some video to surface that not only shows him saying that, but many other nasty things about anyone who dares criticize the bill:

He clearly says "the only groups opposed to this are really two groups of radical extremists." Later on he refers to complaints about the bill -- which are coming from thousands of concerned Canadian content creators and citizens -- as being "babyish."

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Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 5:49pm

"Later on he refers to complaints about the bill -- which are coming from thousands of concerned Canadian content creators and citizens -- as being "babyish." "

Those who complain about a lack of IP are the only babyish ones here. They want the government to hold their hands with legislative subsidies, like babies, because they can't compete in a free market.
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- TtfnJohn (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 9:30am
  
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  Oh, you must mean the levy we pay because Canadians might use tape(!!!), CDs, DVDs, hard drives etc to copy and hand out vast amounts of Canadian music which, according to the CBC is limited to only The Tragically Hip unto whom they worship.
  
  Oh yes, and that total waste of money known as the Canada Council.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 6:07pm

pppplease
PLEASE tell me this guy is an outspoken critic of homosexuality!!!!!!!
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Simon, 23 Jun 2010 @ 6:11pm

Banned
I @'d him (just once) on Twitter to complain about the C-32 digital locks criminalising kids transferring (legally owned) DVD's to iPods etc. He DM'd me with one word - "ridiculous" - and then blocked me.

He likes to model himself as tech savvy - which to him means tweeting about the latest Apple product he's acquired - but it's bizarre how he's really screwed up his social media usage. Stephen Harper has a reputation for keeping his ministers on a tight leash - I'm sure he's not happy with the way James Moore is handling this situation right now.
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minijedimaster (profile), 23 Jun 2010 @ 6:31pm

how does this bill help protect jobs in canada? I don't get it.
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- kyle clements (profile), 23 Jun 2010 @ 6:36pm
  
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  If the bill gets passed, it will protect his job.
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- nasch (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 8:22am
  
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  I find it funny that he complains about people constantly cited by the media who don't actually know what they're talking about. That sounds more like the pro-copyright crowd. And he kept saying there are all these people who claim to be in favor of copyright reform but really aren't. Hello? They are in favor of copyright reform all right, just not in the direction YOU want.
  
  Then he goes off about trade, jobs, and foreign investment, and I'm thinking, does anybody actually buy this crap?
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- TtfnJohn (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 9:33am
  
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  It protects lawyers jobs in Toronto and the jobs of Toronto based "entertainment" execs.
  
  Let us not forget that there IS no Canada outside of the GTA. Places like Calgary, Regina, Montreal, Halifax, Vancouver and St Johns are figments of fevered imagining and are not real.
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Dean Landolt (profile), 23 Jun 2010 @ 7:10pm

OT: I love the new moderation buttons -- if only there were a "funny" lever to pull I'd totally jump on it for the second comment!
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 7:17pm

Maybe he can follow TAM's lead and become anonymous so no one can make him look stupid with his own words.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 7:37pm

This guy is an idiot. Now I'm not calling him an idiot or anything but he shouldn't say something and subsequently deny it.
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NAMELESS ONE, 23 Jun 2010 @ 8:48pm

Q107 radio station used to have a nice lil song
YOU'd HERE these angels singing

YOUR ARE AN IDIOT

and i think this ministers slander and defamation should land him in courrt and turfed form office
, anyone notice how lately the conservative mps are trying and failing badly at being nice people , they seem so fake i want to PUKE.
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NAMELESS ONE, 23 Jun 2010 @ 8:50pm

OH and what does 50 year copyrights do for us canadians
ASK YOUR Selves that one....
legislation that will put one kid in prison for a music tune is WRONG. HE needs to get a life.
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Matt P (profile), 23 Jun 2010 @ 8:51pm

Cory Doctorow was slapping him around earlier on Twitter.

Now it appears his account is suspended. Funny that.
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Matt P (profile), 23 Jun 2010 @ 8:52pm

EDIT: Scratch that, his account isn't suspended, that was my fault.
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Matt P (profile), 23 Jun 2010 @ 8:52pm

EDIT: Scratch that, his account isn't suspended, that was my fault.
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NAMELESS ONE, 23 Jun 2010 @ 9:13pm

OH NOOOS digital abuse
lol
Cory needs to use his left a bit more and go for his head , conservatives all have fat guts form overfeeding at the trough
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Krusty, 23 Jun 2010 @ 9:29pm

Proof once again
How can you tell when a politican is lying? His lips are moving,
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- Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 9:44pm
  
  Re: Proof once again
  How many politicians does it take to screw in a light bulb? All of them and they still fuck it up.
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  - Anonymous Coward, 24 Jun 2010 @ 6:24am
    
    Re: Re: Proof once again
    Well, they have to first pass a bill to allocate themselves a raise for their willingness to do all that extra hard work.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 9:48pm

That is why they don't like video websites it gives people a plataform to show all the lies in color and surround sound.
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Anonymous Coward, 23 Jun 2010 @ 10:10pm

Aw man, TAM hasn't posted yet? I've been waiting for his take on this.
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- Anonymous Coward, 24 Jun 2010 @ 12:13am
  
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  I'll give it a shot for you.
  
  mike, reach, fails to understand what's really going on. out of context remark. 1000939393
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  - Dark Helmet (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 2:56am
    
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    No, no, no, you're doing it all wrong. Allow me:
    
    it must be wednesday at techdirt, because here's yet another story short on facts. i mean, seriously? moore says something in a private email and you use it to expose him for the complete liar he is? sort of a gotya moment, isn't it? and did you even get him? all you did was find evidence that completely contradicts wht he said in a private email. score another point for techdirts invasion of privacy and raporism.
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    - ComputerAddict (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 5:30am
      
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      Very nice attempt Dark Helmet, But remember I sit in the back and I CAN'T HEAR YOU UNLESS YOU TYPE IN ALL CAPS!
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    - The Devil's Coachman (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 4:32pm
      
      Try not being such a twat!
      Gawd, man! It seems to me that you must be trying to set the record for the most anti-blog author posts in history here. You've claimed in the past to have a job in IT, and yet you seem to spend an inordinate of time posting here, which would lead one to believe that you can't possibly be spending much time at work, or you're just completely full of crap. When you finally have a point, please make it. Until then, just STFU, you wanking git.
      
      Love,
      
      Your Daddy
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    - Anonymous Coward, 24 Jun 2010 @ 4:37pm
      
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      you misspelt techduh as techdirt. stop trying to defend your boss. [/tam]
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barney rumble, 24 Jun 2010 @ 8:55am

slander and defamation
this truly is slanderous comments by this minister
i oppose this bill so i'm a extremist and terrorist

see ya in court jerk, donations are pooring in for a lawsuit
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another mike (profile), 24 Jun 2010 @ 5:12pm

no subject given, no quarter taken
a wise man once said, "I reject your reality and substitute my own." And it occurred under similar circumstances of "No, I didn't say that," and the show editor cutting to the clip of him saying just that.
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