Spin Magazine Sends Cease & Desist To Twitter User @Spin

from the how-not-to-win-friends dept

Tue, May 31st 2011 2:53pm — Mike Masnick

Two and a half years ago, we wrote about the question of Twitter squatters and other likely fights about who gets to own what Twitter names, and pointed to a suggestion from lawyer Erik Heels that there needed to be a clear Twitter user name dispute resolution policy, similar to UDRP (Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy) for domain names. To date, there still isn't anything quite like that, though Twitter often seems to take matters into its own hands if someone complains. However, apparently, Spin Magazine decided to bypass contacting Twitter directly and instead sent a cease & desist letter to the guy who had the @spin user name on Twitter, relegating Spin Magazine to using the dreaded @SpinMagazine (you can see the full cease & desist letter at ChillingEffects).

Spin Magazine tried to claim that there was "confusion" with Eric Rice's @spin account by pointing to tweets that were meant for the magazine, but were directed to Rice instead. Of course, I don't see how Spin Magazine would have any legal claim here, since Eric Rice is an individual and is unlikely to be using the Twitter account for commercial purposes. Honestly, Spin Magazine comes off looking pretty silly here, and could have just tried a friendly approach, rather than running to the lawyers. However, Rice claims that until the C&D showed up, he'd never heard from Spin Magazine, despite his using Twitter for years with the name. We see this kind of thing all the time with lawyers and clients who think breaking out the legal nastygrams is a good way to get people to cooperate. Perhaps the scare tactics work some of the time, but they have a high likelihood of backfiring badly, as well.

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Anonymous Coward, 31 May 2011 @ 3:12pm

Fuck Spin Magazine! Let's see how they spin that...
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Chris, 31 May 2011 @ 3:16pm

Fuck off Spin Magazine, use something else, like @SpinMagazine
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Ken, 31 May 2011 @ 3:23pm

Spin Magazine does not own the term 'Spin'.
Oh yeah when I hear the word spin I automatically think of Spin Magazine. That is the problem with companies that decide to use common names as their trademark.

It reminds me when Joe Montana starting suing businesses in Montana for having the name of their State in their name.

Subway started sending cease and desist letters to restaurants who have been using the name "footlong" for decades claiming they own the term.

Spin Magazine, you don't own the term 'spin'. What next are you going to sue the makers of Sit and Spin, or sue someone who uses the term spin-doctor, or people who play Spin-the-bottle, or sue the makers of washing machines who have a spin cycle?
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MrWilson, 31 May 2011 @ 3:33pm

Re: Spin Magazine does not own the term 'Spin'.
Even better, let's set up dummy companies with combinations of names of the overly litigious companies.

MyStarMonsterSpinBook.com is open for business! Who wants to take me to court first?
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Mike42 (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 3:33pm

I feel ignorant
Sorry, I seem to be missing something here. Twitter is a company, not a public institution, right? They can use any name for anyone on their service. It's Twitter's call. If I was Twitter, I'd add a no-litigation clause to the terms of use, and ban anyone who broke the clause. Using the legal system to strong-arm one of my users would certainly not make me happy.
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Anonymous Coward, 31 May 2011 @ 3:44pm

Spinners beware
Next target: Fox's idiotic Mr. Reilly...
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michael berkens, 31 May 2011 @ 3:47pm

UDRP For Twitter Probably would have resulted in Loss Of Handle
If a UDRP that applies to domain names was applied by the same panelists that hands down UDRP decisions there is a good likelihood that the Twitter user would have lost.

Domain name UDRP decisions turn (or at least are suppose to) based off of use of the domain not just the domain itself (unless its a clear typo like wallmart.com)

Not sure how you can apply a use test to Twitter accounts but if you could and the account holder ever tweeted about the magazine, a competitive magazine or music in general they may have lost the handle by UDRP measures
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Anonymous Coward, 31 May 2011 @ 4:07pm

The first thing i think about when i see the word spin is www.leekspin.com/
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wvhillbilly (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 5:35pm

Trademark protection
I remember several years ago a US shoemaker (Deckers?) trademarked "Ugg Boots," then proceeded to sue the pants off of Australian shoe makers who had been making that style of boot and calling them "ugg boots" as a generic term for the style for 30 years or more, for infringing their newly minted "trademark".

Is that legal? Seems like extremely dirty pool to me.
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The Devil's Coachman (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 5:41pm

Who the hell reads Spin magazine?
Oh, let me guess. The terminally lame? You are correct, sir!
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wvhillbilly (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 5:44pm

Spin
Electric motors spin. Fans spin. Washing machines spin. Dancers spin. tops spin. Airplanes spin. Cars spin. Politicians spin (facts). So do lawyers. So do corporations.

"Spin" is a generic word. YOU CAN'T TRADEMARK THAT!!!
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Gwiz (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 6:22pm

Re: Who the hell reads Spin magazine?
Oh, let me guess. The terminally lame? You are correct, sir!

I dunno, from what I've heard, some kids go...when they Sit 'n Spin.
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The Devil's Coachman (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 6:36pm

Re: Spin
Try explaining that to the douchebags at Spin Magazine.
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davebarnes (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 6:59pm

Next, I will be sued
Twitter@DaveBarnes belongs to me.
Because I am more technically savvy than some musician named Dave Barnes (http://twitter.com/#!/search/davebarnesmusic).
Should I create a davebarnesspin account at the Twitter?
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Anonymous Coward, 31 May 2011 @ 7:13pm

Re: UDRP For Twitter Probably would have resulted in Loss Of Handle
But what if my name is Mr. Ulysses T. Spin? Or Martha Walmart? Thomas J. Twitter? I gotta ask someone to use my own damn name?
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Anonymous Coward, 31 May 2011 @ 8:27pm

The very first search result on Google for spin is Spin Magazine. It is almost incomprehensible that this guy didn't at some point search for his own posts or references on Google at some point in that time.

Spin is a generic term in some ways, but denying knowledge of a well known common commercial user makes him look less than honest.
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mike allen (profile), 31 May 2011 @ 10:55pm

Never heard of spin magazine two words for them second word off put in front what you want.
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The eejit (profile), 1 Jun 2011 @ 12:19am

Re:
Nice shilling you have there. @SpinMagazine is a perfecxtly fine name for the mag's Twitter account.
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G Thompson (profile), 1 Jun 2011 @ 2:38am

Re: Trademark protection
The term "Ugg" was declared generic and struck off the list of registered trademarks in Australia and New Zealand approx 2006 if I recall correctly. Its a classic David v Goliath Story .. or Why huge American corporations should not f*ck around with good old Aussie products!

ie: Leave stuff like Golden Circle, Tim Tams, Vegemite, UGG's etc.. ALONE!

An interesting point about UGG is that IP Australia (Our Trademark Arbitrator/Tribunal) recently ruled last year that both UGG AUSTRALIA and MADE BY UGG AUSTRALIA were fine as Trademarks by another company (Luga Productiosn Pty Ltd) and that Deckers COULD NOT claim anything since Luga's usage predated Decker's International Tradmark by 22yrs! HA!

Currently EMU Australia is currently counter suing Decker in California alleging that the trademark was granted by the USTO to Decker based on false and misleading statements and is therefore invalidated.
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eclecticdave (profile), 1 Jun 2011 @ 3:14am

Eric, if I were you I'd just tell the magazine to @spin on it!
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Marcel de Jong (profile), 1 Jun 2011 @ 4:19am

Spin Magazine? Is that a magazine where they spin the truth.

On that note, I'll await the defamation lawsuit from someone named Jo.
(@MadJo)
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2011 @ 4:45am

Re:
"Well known" is subjective. I didn't know of this spin magazine before this article. And I still don't even know what this magazine is about since I don't care about them at all. To me spinning is a verb and not a magazine.
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FuzzyDuck, 1 Jun 2011 @ 5:33am

Re:
Spin is a generic term in some ways, but denying knowledge of a well known common commercial user makes him look less than honest.

I had never heard of Spin Magazine before either.

Now I know they are good for nothing stealing scum, that's quite an improvement on unknown don't you think?
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jweb (profile), 1 Jun 2011 @ 5:42am

ive honestly never heard of spin magazine before reading this article
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Anonymous Coward, 1 Jun 2011 @ 7:02am

Re: I feel ignorant
It is twitters call, but twitter wants to be a valuable and desirable service for big companies as well as single users. If too many companies find themselves getting shut out of the process, it creates a hole in the market place that spawns competition. Just ask My [Blank] about that.
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Ken, 1 Jun 2011 @ 7:23am

genericized trademark
Companies that take generic terms are risking them becoming a genericized trademark. What is ironic is most companies do not want their trademarks used as verbs like Photoshopping etc because it risks the trademark from becoming genericized. The word spin is already a verb so Spin Magazine is already in jeopardy.

Ugg Boots have been made in Australia for decades and is a style of boots. It would be like someone trademarking the term loafer. high-heals, or cowboy boots.

What this is all about is arrogance on the part of these companies that take common words as their trademark and then think they now own the term. Its like calling your product "And" then proceeding to sue anyone who uses that word. I for one will think twice about ever frequenting a company that displays such crass arrogance.
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Ken, 1 Jun 2011 @ 7:37am

Re:
If someone had taken the Twitter name @spinmagazine they would have a legitimate gripe. However, to claim you own a common term just because you chose that as your trademark does not make you own that term. Infact any company can trademark the word spin as long as they are not in the same industry and as long as the name will not confuse consumers. ie Delta Airlines, Delta Faucets. Some companies will send cease and desist letters to unrelated companies trying to strong arm them away from using the term but legally they are on thin ice.
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Joe, 1 Jun 2011 @ 9:56am

Wow
The @spin user is the guy that launched fuckedcompany.com. God that takes me back to the first wave. I used to love reading the death twitches of all the bad dot coms until my company at the time started showing up there...
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Correction, 1 Jun 2011 @ 8:01pm

Re: Wow
I think you mis-read a tweet. @spin did not launch fuckedcompany.com, he retweeted what @pud said on twitter.
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Joe, 1 Jun 2011 @ 8:24pm

Re: Re: Wow
ahh-my bad - thanks for the correction.
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Casey Bouch (profile), 1 Jun 2011 @ 9:05pm

Re: Re: I feel ignorant
Yea, but who is to say a big company has more of a right to a username than anyone else?
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犀利士, 2 Sep 2014 @ 7:23pm

犀利士
Yea, but who is to say a big company has more of a right to a username than anyone else?
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